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On October 06 2013 10:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
WoS... why would i not be town? solstice CLAIMED SCUM to me. He masoned me thinking i was other mafia team. dunked.
But why would he do that?
And regarding use of KP and what happened last night---what makes the most sense is the solo using 1 KP and shooting VE while the trio used Driveby---although maybe they had some left over to payphone or something from cop/scumkill?
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Solstice?
Got anything to say?
And let me make this perfectly clear once again: IF YOU ARE TOWN AND FAKING THIS CC I SWEAR I WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND DO NOT SO FRIENDLY THINGS TO YOU
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On October 06 2013 10:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Solstice?
Got anything to say?
And let me make this perfectly clear once again: IF YOU ARE TOWN AND FAKING THIS CC I SWEAR I WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND DO NOT SO FRIENDLY THINGS TO YOU im not mocsta. i was in noire dude... solstice maf
I know but it's not just Mocsta who does stuff like this.
Welp I mean....no reason not to right now.
##Unvote
##Vote: S0lstice
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On October 06 2013 10:44 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 10:43 cakepie wrote:On October 06 2013 10:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
or green. Can i post PMs from other players? No timestamps; no direct quoting, may paraphrase/discuss. So he can't just copy/paste the text?
I'm pretty sure that's what 'no direct quoting' means.
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On October 06 2013 10:48 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 10:44 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 10:43 cakepie wrote:On October 06 2013 10:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
or green. Can i post PMs from other players? No timestamps; no direct quoting, may paraphrase/discuss. So he can't just copy/paste the text? I'm pretty sure that's what 'no direct quoting' means. I thought that was what you just did. like you are quoting me so it says I said it. If you just copy/paste the text then there's no big deal. like imagine this HEY GUYS WAVEOFSHADOW said this "yo vayne you are loser I am scum lets be team" and i say thats a copy paste of what you wrote. Is that breaking any rules?
Um...I guess if it IS a copy-paste of what I said then yes.
And I know technically there is no way to prove that (without solstice himself speaking up) but just like PM games, I figure honour system applies here.
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On October 06 2013 11:03 Chairman Ray wrote:
Well, looks like an easy win for town lol. Do we think that solstice is the last banger or is he in the other mafia team?
Does it matter?
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The other thing I think is important to mention is that this in no way confirms CC if Solstice flips red.
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On October 06 2013 11:14 Chairman Ray wrote:
##unvote
##vote: solstice
Looks pretty clear who our lynch should be.
Answer my question CR.
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Also you haven't responded to anything I wrote about you.
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On October 06 2013 11:15 austinmcc wrote:
neato. If this is real, that could change some things. Right now we're 7-3-1. If Cheese IS mafia and solstice is bait, could be...
6-3-1 or 7-3.
In the 6-3-1 case, given that we only saw 1 KP last night, we assume SOMEONE used drive by, and there will be 3 KP out there. Scum shoot VE and two people they think don't have vests, take numbers to 3-3-1. Tell the other scummer to let their team win, not town, lynch Koshi 4-3, and win the game.
In the 7-3 case, max of 2 KP. Doesn't make sense.
So...there IS a chance that if this is a ploy and solstice is town, we lynch him and lose IF scum hit unvested targets and avoid the bus? But I think that can only happen if solstice is town and if the other mafia team cooperates.
Why would they cooperate if they still have a chance to win on their own?
Initiating the contact makes no sense to me in the first place.
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On October 06 2013 11:19 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 11:15 austinmcc wrote:
neato. If this is real, that could change some things. Right now we're 7-3-1. If Cheese IS mafia and solstice is bait, could be...
6-3-1 or 7-3.
In the 6-3-1 case, given that we only saw 1 KP last night, we assume SOMEONE used drive by, and there will be 3 KP out there. Scum shoot VE and two people they think don't have vests, take numbers to 3-3-1. Tell the other scummer to let their team win, not town, lynch Koshi 4-3, and win the game.
In the 7-3 case, max of 2 KP. Doesn't make sense.
So...there IS a chance that if this is a ploy and solstice is town, we lynch him and lose IF scum hit unvested targets and avoid the bus? But I think that can only happen if solstice is town and if the other mafia team cooperates. Why would they cooperate if they still have a chance to win on their own? Initiating the contact makes no sense to me in the first place. I don't think that team does. There's a team with ONE dude. At best he can kingmake or something IF we screw up, but I don't think he has a good chance of getting a win unless people let him. Right? Even 3-3-1. He has to lynch town. 2-3-1. He shoots town or mafia, either, 1-3-1 or 1-2-1. In that case, the other mafia team can lynch him and shoot the townie to win if it's 1-3-1, or can ... force a no lynch, then shoot him while he shoots them, leaving it town vs. (one dude from 3 man team). He has no chance to win. The other team has as much KP as he does AND they control the lynch. Even if he shoots them, they have even numbers always and can win, barring Koshi not dying and not getting blocked and shooting someone from the 3 man team? And any sort of "townies living" scenario, vests or koshi saves, does NOT help the 1 man scumteam, he's just too far behind.
Once again you're assuming that the scumteams have each other figured out in this scenario.
I don't know why you make that assumption.
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On October 06 2013 11:27 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 11:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 11:19 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 11:15 austinmcc wrote:
neato. If this is real, that could change some things. Right now we're 7-3-1. If Cheese IS mafia and solstice is bait, could be...
6-3-1 or 7-3.
In the 6-3-1 case, given that we only saw 1 KP last night, we assume SOMEONE used drive by, and there will be 3 KP out there. Scum shoot VE and two people they think don't have vests, take numbers to 3-3-1. Tell the other scummer to let their team win, not town, lynch Koshi 4-3, and win the game.
In the 7-3 case, max of 2 KP. Doesn't make sense.
So...there IS a chance that if this is a ploy and solstice is town, we lynch him and lose IF scum hit unvested targets and avoid the bus? But I think that can only happen if solstice is town and if the other mafia team cooperates. Why would they cooperate if they still have a chance to win on their own? Initiating the contact makes no sense to me in the first place. I don't think that team does. There's a team with ONE dude. At best he can kingmake or something IF we screw up, but I don't think he has a good chance of getting a win unless people let him. Right? Even 3-3-1. He has to lynch town. 2-3-1. He shoots town or mafia, either, 1-3-1 or 1-2-1. In that case, the other mafia team can lynch him and shoot the townie to win if it's 1-3-1, or can ... force a no lynch, then shoot him while he shoots them, leaving it town vs. (one dude from 3 man team). He has no chance to win. The other team has as much KP as he does AND they control the lynch. Even if he shoots them, they have even numbers always and can win, barring Koshi not dying and not getting blocked and shooting someone from the 3 man team? And any sort of "townies living" scenario, vests or koshi saves, does NOT help the 1 man scumteam, he's just too far behind. Once again you're assuming that the scumteams have each other figured out in this scenario. I don't know why you make that assumption. I'm assuming that because, even in the BEST CASE SCENARIO for mafia (they know each other with 100% accuracy), the one-man team can't win. A situation with less knowledge is never superior for the one-man team as far as I can tell. So I'm assuming that because with the deck stacked as much as possible towards the 1 man team (the 3 man team knows him 100% and will not shoot him accidentally), he can't win.
Wat.
Why would that be best case scenario for him?
Wouldn't best case scenario be to just fucking hide/pretend to be town and hope to outlast the other team so he can actually WIN?
Like.....how does your mind work Austin? I really don't get anything you've been saying throughout this entire game.
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On October 06 2013 11:35 s0Lstice wrote:
let's start here. I did claim scum to CC, but I am not scum, I am the other cop
we'll get to Koshi in a lil bit
Oh dear lord no.
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Oh man I can't tell if I'm looking forward to this or really fucking annoyed at the inevitable shitstorm that follows.
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I can't see a scenario in which a town solstice shouldn't have counterclaimed koshi honestly.
Like...even when I played survivor I counterclaimed people as soon as I could.
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On October 06 2013 11:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 11:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
I can't see a scenario in which a town solstice shouldn't have counterclaimed koshi honestly.
Like...even when I played survivor I counterclaimed people as soon as I could. Was that a getting-shot-by-scum-survivor reference?
No.
Well sorta....I would have counterclaimed BH in Golden Sun had I survived.
And I DID counterclaim Fuba in Basterd.
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On October 06 2013 11:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hey! That means s0l shot me last night!
</3
Not necessarily.
Solstice could be on either team----it would be real fucking dumb but it could be the 3-scumteam's gambit to try and out the 1-scum.
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On October 06 2013 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wave don't kill me tonight. I swear I'll tell them to lynch CR first.
lolwut
VE even if I were scum I wouldn't kill you.
You're 2 QT
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Horseshit.
No one ever confirmed me.
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You're just picking a target you never bothered to call scummy.
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