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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 15:51 GMT
#4597
TLDR;
The point is what Solstice did, it is what he should have done if he was a cop.
We can't know his (teams) reasons for scum motivation, but there is zero town motivation for his actions.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 15:51 GMT
#4598
EBWOP: ...NOT what he did..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#4602
If someone claims cop and you are the real cop, you counter-claim him and get him killed. As been said, you hosted Noire where town fucked up with CCing. That's simple, you cc. Period. You didn't, you only claimed when you had to. You are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 15:57 GMT
#4603
On October 08 2013 00:51 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:44 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys you are looking it the wrong way.

We do not know what motivation Solstice had to contact Mr.CC. But it doesn't matter. What matters is that when he DID contact him, he HAD to claim cop because that was his only option.

Also he did not counter-claim Koshi in the first place, and let him run around "confirming" townies. That's all the evidence we need. He is mafia.
He did NOT have to claim cop.

He had the option of saying CC was lying.

Yes but if you fight against Mr.CC rather than Koshi, the cop is confirmed and so are the townies.
Solstice the MCB doesn't care.

He's one man. He's all alone, like VE was with the bear earlier.

You're saying that solstice, as the last man on his scumteam, would go for the play where he puts suspicion on koshi's townies for a day BUT GETS 1000000% KILLED.

He absolutely loses if he goes for this play.

If he calls out cc, he fights against cc rather than koshi, has confirmed townies lying around, but he doesn't 100000% die.

If he's the one-man team, not 10000% dying is better than having a harder lategame.

Solstice is from the 3 man team. Pandain is the last banger dude.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:03 GMT
#4608
Let's look at this:
Living players:
Koshi, VisceraEyes, Mr. Cheesecake, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, Chairman Ray, WaveofShadow, VayneAuthority, austinmcc, Pandain, s0lstice

Koshi has confirmed me/VE/Oats. That leaves;
Solstice, austin, WoS, VA, CR, Pandain, Mr.CC

Three of those are scum.
You have to have an educated guess on three people, who to contact, what kinda response do you get (maybe they team with you, maybe not), how to proceed. When the scumteam of three people left has all the alignments clear, the game becomes much easier for them, even if they lose on player. Who to push, what to expect to happen. In this gmae scum do not have all the information and situations change.

That's also why Pandain is scum, he reacts to situation changes in a different way than townies do. His reads change for no real reasoning based purely on what happened the last night and what players flipped. Townies keep their story straight, Pandain doesn't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#4610
On October 08 2013 01:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:51 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:44 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys you are looking it the wrong way.

We do not know what motivation Solstice had to contact Mr.CC. But it doesn't matter. What matters is that when he DID contact him, he HAD to claim cop because that was his only option.

Also he did not counter-claim Koshi in the first place, and let him run around "confirming" townies. That's all the evidence we need. He is mafia.
He did NOT have to claim cop.

He had the option of saying CC was lying.

Yes but if you fight against Mr.CC rather than Koshi, the cop is confirmed and so are the townies.
Solstice the MCB doesn't care.

He's one man. He's all alone, like VE was with the bear earlier.

You're saying that solstice, as the last man on his scumteam, would go for the play where he puts suspicion on koshi's townies for a day BUT GETS 1000000% KILLED.

He absolutely loses if he goes for this play.

If he calls out cc, he fights against cc rather than koshi, has confirmed townies lying around, but he doesn't 100000% die.

If he's the one-man team, not 10000% dying is better than having a harder lategame.

Solstice is from the 3 man team. Pandain is the last banger dude.

Are you suggesting we lynch Pandain today then? There are quite a few people who want the last MCB dead.

No i want Koshi to shoot Pandain for what i said earlier. It makes the game again easier for us.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:08 GMT
#4612
So Solstice, why didn't you discuss Koshi's multiple soft fakeclaims on N2? Did you both miss them?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:09 GMT
#4613
On October 08 2013 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright so then you and I are on the same page, at least regarding today/Solstice.

I seem to remember Vayne being on that page as well, though I'm slightly disconcerted with his fucking off for the day.

Vayne is cool. He's been consistent the whole game. He writed good posts and his train of thought has been solid the whole game. He's pretty likely town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:11 GMT
#4616
Also Austin pretty much has to be mafia with Solstice. If Pandain is the last banger then CC is town, If Pandain is in team with them CC could be the last banger.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#4617
On October 08 2013 01:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On October 08 2013 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright so then you and I are on the same page, at least regarding today/Solstice.

I seem to remember Vayne being on that page as well, though I'm slightly disconcerted with his fucking off for the day.

Vayne is cool. He's been consistent the whole game. He writed good posts and his train of thought has been solid the whole game. He's pretty likely town.

Ehhhhhh I'd be real careful with that.
Have you seen scumVayne?

Yes, Vayne does stuff that gives him away as scum. He's wishy-washy about lynches and shit. It's true that he could be scum but i highly doubt. As scum he is active and uses other people's credit as his own (in lynches and shit). I don't see it here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:14 GMT
#4618
Also there is zero reason why Vayne would discuss what happened during the night as scum. Right or wrong, it does not help his team. He loves NK analysis as town though.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:19 GMT
#4621
On October 08 2013 01:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also there is zero reason why Vayne would discuss what happened during the night as scum. Right or wrong, it does not help his team. He loves NK analysis as town though.

He does it as scum too if I remember correctly.
Gonna go look at Les Mis.

From Golden Sun i remember he made some. He dropped them when he was being called dumb for it (your kill on N1). SK fit in his scumplay better as town didn't really know what happened. If Vayne was town he would not have let that go as his ego would be against it. After i brought up the "no SK" -theory he just went with it because i think he realized he could not contest it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:20 GMT
#4623
On October 08 2013 01:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Austin pretty much has to be mafia with Solstice. If Pandain is the last banger then CC is town, If Pandain is in team with them CC could be the last banger.

I thought this too, sorta, but I don't think they necessarily need to be on the same team. Essentially If they are on same team, it's way more suspicious of Austin to be hardcore soft-defending solstice all day by trying to move the lynch. If different teams then he knows his method won't do anything, he can say whatever he wants, opposite scum still gets lynched and Austin gets an A for effort.

That's pretty WIFOMy. Also Austin's defence and "let's not kill either of them" makes zero sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:22 GMT
#4624
On October 08 2013 01:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah he talks about NKs all the time as scum.
His analysis wasn't nearly as heavy in that game but imo there was less to analyze. It's not indicative imo. Plus overall it's very difficult to meta Vayne aside from the playing like ass = town, playing well = scum thing he usually has going.

Issue I have is this game he's had his share of both.

But his analysis are different as scum. I can't really explain it, i just know it. :D
I can try if you really want to.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:23 GMT
#4625
Well techically Vayne could be the last banger dude. I need to reread his filter tonight.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:29 GMT
#4628
So if Vayne is town and thinks Koshi is the cop should he still be pushing Oats lynch? I don't even know what you are trying to say..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:41 GMT
#4632
So Vayne as scum blames Koshi for confirming his mislynch target? How does that make sense? Like is Vayne in your opinion such a bad scumplayer?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#4638
Nah Austin, you are wrong. Vayne misread the rules.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 17:07 GMT
#4641
Like Austin, how does Vayne's first reaction differ from this:
On October 06 2013 05:13 austinmcc wrote:
Shoop da woop.

Koshi, you were serious about shooting Oats? As in, he's either town or SCUM, AHEAD OF TIME, USED KP TO PUT A VEST ON HIM?

Also, we need two things. Anyone who got shot needs to claim. We count claims, expect POSSIBLE fakes, and lynch some scum today.

Are you scum too by your own definition?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 17:08 GMT
#4644
lol, that's reaching dude..
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