On October 04 2013 22:14 Pandain wrote:
What do you mean. He's active but not contributing which is the worst. No actual reads on people, weak vote on FT today. Like he mainly defends himself or speculates might actions.

If your going to make the argument that as long as he's active we will never lynch him then we would never lynch any good mafia player. Vayne has rated his own abilities very highly as scum at a 9.

I would say that yes he's not anti town but he is certainly scum, and there is enough of a difference in this game from his town games to justify it.

Meh, you really overestimate VA his abilities as town. He doesn't push shit and isn't that scary for scummers. See Persona.

Koshi

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October 04 2013 13:18 GMT

#2846

On October 04 2013 22:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I most want to hear from Palmar who he thinks is scum or I'm completely willing to switch to him, ending his miserable existence.

^ this. I prefer Palmar over FT tbh.

Koshi

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October 04 2013 13:23 GMT

#2850

Nope. I pushed him as scum last game on d2. This game I don't think he is scum. Read the last page of his filter in Persona. He didn't do shit and only 1 scum was left lol.

Koshi

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October 04 2013 13:39 GMT

#2851

VA Persona filter from page 4 and onward, (first days weren't better but then at least nobody knows shit):

Role speculation ---> Page 4 and 5 his biggest contributions are about setup speculation, saying that not 1/3rd of the game is going to be antitown.
Weak votes on Grack and me/Palmar which he never followed up on ---> He limited himself to 4 people after N1 for the entire game.. 2/4 correct and he never in the game gave reasons for his right reads except yamato->targets VA->scum, jonnywup->1 little thing about crazo->scum
Non-existent contribution ---> When there was 1 scum left he still wasn't able to give more than 1 reason why he wasn't scum and jonny was scum.

VA as town = not scary for scummers. In Titanic he was killed for WIFOM & he wasn't fully terrible only because he was right on Malongo. I never saw him being impressive as town. Ever. It's true.

Not saying he can't be scum though. But his scum meta is different than what you say.

Koshi

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October 04 2013 13:40 GMT

#2852

Lynch VA somewhere on Day 5 when we really don't know shit. Ignore him till then. Filling the thread with VA shizzle doesn't help anybody.

Koshi

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October 04 2013 14:02 GMT

#2854

Hmm. See now I wonder if I should bus myself this night or next night. I was thinking to ambulance myself tonight tbh.

Koshi

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October 04 2013 14:56 GMT

#2860

Yeah, we better prepare a major swing in votes if FT doesn't come back.

Will FT be modkilled if he doesn't vote

Koshi

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October 04 2013 14:59 GMT

#2862

agreed

Koshi

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October 04 2013 14:59 GMT

#2864

But meh. I got him as town.

Koshi

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October 04 2013 15:53 GMT

#2905

Yeah. I am claiming cop. I know what I will do n3 and n4 anyway. Just don't know if I will swap around. Really, without my buddy there isn't much I can do. Kinda silly I didn't draw a NK last night and hiro did.

Let me add some information in the thread about cop actions
Night one we confirmed 2 townies with PS and Prius.
Night 2 we confirmed 1 townie and Hollywood CPR on me.

If you want more information I can give it. But I think I will save everything till the end of the nightcycle.

Koshi

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October 04 2013 15:55 GMT

#2912

This means BH died to 1 NK from a scumteam n1 & the other team used driveby.
Then on night 2 there was 3 NK and they used it on the flipped targets. Cops had nothing to do with it.

Fact is I can bus myself and can't get killed by anything on 1 night because bus > RB. But I don't know if both scumteams have 1.5 NK or that 1 scumteam has 2NK.

Which sucks ass.

Koshi

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October 04 2013 15:56 GMT

#2914

On October 05 2013 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are those confirmed townies alive?

Grack died...

Koshi

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October 04 2013 15:58 GMT

#2919

Oh and rayn is 100%. I am keeping 1 townie a secret. Dnu why.

Fucking wasting every blue role I get D:

Koshi

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October 04 2013 16:02 GMT

#2924

On October 05 2013 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Show nested quote +

No this is good because you can bus yourself.
You guys should have both bussed on N1. :D

We have only 1. But we thought I would get hit and not Hiro. And then I would tell thread I was cop on D3, ambulance on N3 if the NK were used on N2, and buss on N4... But yeah. Now everything is ruined D;