33% chance of scum lynch.
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33% chance of scum lynch. RNG gogo! | ||
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On October 03 2013 08:16 VayneAuthority wrote: worse, 8 to 5 You mean better. | ||
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On October 03 2013 08:35 VayneAuthority wrote: Show nested quote + On October 03 2013 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 03 2013 08:16 VayneAuthority wrote: worse, 8 to 5 You mean better. why is that better? higher probability for scum to shoot eachother? Better for RNG silly. | ||
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On October 03 2013 08:48 VayneAuthority wrote: Show nested quote + On October 03 2013 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 03 2013 08:35 VayneAuthority wrote: On October 03 2013 08:29 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 03 2013 08:16 VayneAuthority wrote: worse, 8 to 5 You mean better. why is that better? higher probability for scum to shoot eachother? Better for RNG silly. oh right. well ill be interested whether you choose to vote me or follow up on your FT case, either way I know where you will end up this cycle will be magical Well considering I want one of you dead by the end of this cycle and have pretty much stuck with that since D1 (aside from getting sidetracked regarding yamato cuz fuck D1), yeah, I'd say pretty obv. I'm honestly not sure how much I'll be doing this cycle because I'm not sure what else there is to say about either of you that hasn't been said. People know what I think, and have all game. If the town wants to flerp and derp for 47h and then let scum shennanies lynch a townie with 30s to go though, that's cool. | ||
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You dare, you DARE to fucking ask me why I am not voting for Vayne? I think right now I might actually vote YOU ahead of Vayne. FT dies today. End of fucking story. | ||
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Who da 5th? | ||
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On October 03 2013 13:06 Pandain wrote: You could try and vote me but you'd probably be scum then as you have no justification. I refuse to be shut down and believe FT is town. He always plays like this. Your reasons are weak. Besides his awful vote Palmar has been pretty town with contributions and logical posts. It's just suddenly he threw a sudden wrench and voted Shiao despite clearer suspicions on FT just to "prove Rayn wrong." Vayne is scummy for more reasons and it is more conclusive. That is the weirdest statement to remember of all time that someone always walks themselves through night actions I think you are trying to make justifications to not vote Vayne which are really weak. Let me approach it in several different ways: 1. Vayne will always end up becoming a hassle for town later as it is really hard to tell his alignment. In fact my only good read is that he's focusing too much on role actions and is revealing more information then town has. Failing this lynch, he will always be up for a lynch later which given this game scum will probably force anyway if Vayne is town. Better to get him out of the way. 2. Vayne is clearly not blue so that's a good thing. 3. Vayne has asked not to be checked despite before saying check me Show nested quote + On September 30 2013 07:41 VayneAuthority wrote: On September 30 2013 07:39 Pandain wrote: Vayne is probably scum. Also a generally good shot. I would suggest cops to shoot him, as it's hard to differentiate his town and scum play. He's clearly reading due to what he's saying but he's acting like he doesn't give a shit. Town reads are Cheesecake and SnB. If Palmar doesn't push today, he's probably scum. I welcome the cops shooting me, it confirms town members and I have no reason to use my vest so it will refund the bullet. go for it. 5. If you like OMGUS Show nested quote + On October 02 2013 01:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I am not sold on FT or SnB but the majority of the list you just posted besides that is scum Heavily contrasts with him today which, based on meta analysis of SnB flipping scum, is associative with FT being scum. Poor reason to change. I'm not this arrogant so I don't think you're doing this on purpose, therefore I am not going to vote Vayne just to spite you. | ||
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On October 03 2013 13:11 Pandain wrote: It was directed more at Solstice, you may like the first reason however; I don't think you're likely to change, however. I will instead convince others and you may read what I post as well. Solstice is 100% correct that Vayne always speculates on night actions as either alignment. However however however I refuse to believe you picked up on bluerole speculation and a few measly little posts today and you find those the only reason Vayne is scum. If you wanted to vote Vayne for scum you could have picked anything I brought up fucking DAYS ago and looked at it, but instead you make up your own shit case and push him like you're the first person to ever consider this possibility and act like this is the Wagon of Justice for the day. Vayne, you are one lucky motherfucker, scum or not, because Pandain has just assured that I will absolutely not vote for you today. Anyone else on my list is fair game. Looks like you survive to endgame another game! Maybe someday people will learn their lessons about you. | ||
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On October 03 2013 13:33 Pandain wrote: Going to give you a hypothetical, WoS. If FT flips town, what will you learn from this? Absolutely nothing. The evidence to FT being scum is overwhelming. He has done absolutely dick all since the lynch where he promised reads and STILL hasn't given them. His last post was literally "I am playing this game now." And yet? I don't follow your massive townread on FT, in fact it seems to be that it's entirely based on an unflipped association, which is fucking terrible. | ||
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On October 03 2013 13:50 Pandain wrote: What about you, WoS? I've been completely transparent about who I've wanted to lynch all game, pushed my reads, and argued with people. The rest of town can decide what they want to do today. I'll vote accordingly if the leader fits with my reads. If it comes down to two people on my list I'll re-evaluate as necessary. I honestly don't see a reason to participate beyond my current level right now since half the thread is lurking, and even when they're not and I am actively trying and posting, I have not been listened to do a degree that I find useful. I'm going to give the dead people's filters a cursory look. | ||
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Hiro reads: - not a whole lot - suspicion on Oats, SnB, Pandain, Shiao, maybe Palmar? SnB On October 02 2013 00:06 strongandbig wrote: These vote counts are the best thing ever. I don't like how the shiaopi wagon has just defused without anyone ever actually defending him. Wos and co have given legitimate reasons why they think ft is more likely to flip scum than shiaopi, so that's okay. Although I really don't like koshi's complete indifference to which one of the two gets lynched. What I don't see is any evidence that the people voting for vayne have actually put any reasoning into why he's a better lynch than shiaopi. Or even than FT, in some cases. ChairmanRay - you have explained why you don't want to lynch tofu, but why did you vote vayne instead of shiaopi? Why is vayne more likely to flip scum than shiaopi is? Pandain - why are you voting VA over tofu? You said earlier you thought tofu was scum and have reasons for it. Tofu - did you do that filter diving like you said you would? Why'd you unvote shiaopi and then vote vayne? Right now I'd rather lynch tofu than vayne, and will vote accordingly if necessary. The tofu case from wos is just more persuasive to me than the mini cases on vayne from pandain and ray. That said, shiaopi is my preferred lynch over either of those, and I don't understand why or how this push went away, so I'm keeping my vote there for now. Reads like a hella bus of FT and a way to back down from Shiao. I can't believe FT lynch has had so much resistance over the entire game. OH WAIT I CAN IT'S BECAUSE HE'S SCUM | ||
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On October 03 2013 14:07 Pandain wrote: Do you think I'm town? I know you have me and your scum list but I'm quite interested why I've been waffling on you quite a bit. I don't like your interactions lately, and your case on Vayne which I've explained a little bit. At some point I'll dive you and decide for sure, but right now it's mostly based on feels. And my feels have been pretty damn good lately. | ||
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On October 03 2013 14:14 Pandain wrote: That's hardly anything at all. He also defended Vayne who we both think is scum. And I for sure didn't see him getting killed so I doubt SnB had the mindset to start bussing when he wasn't in danger of getting shot. Am I mistaken in that he was under suspicion? Wat. At the time of that post FT was going to die. Your inability to read the thread concerns me. | ||
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On October 03 2013 14:15 Oatsmaster wrote: So WoS/koshi/Pandain/soltice, why not palmar? Pamar could be scum. I just can't read him particularly well and honestly don't know what to make of him, so I certainly wouldn't vote him above any of my other scumreads. Like you, for example. | ||
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His focus was on Shiao, sure; very easy to be pushing one read all game and having it flip town so you don't look scummy. He made sure to mention the other possible lynches of the day though to keep his bases covered obviously. Vayne was never getting lynched that day so calling the most likely lynch of the day scum (whether he is or not) is just playing it safe as scum. If FT IS scum then he theoretically looks fine if FT flips because 'Oh I wanted SP lynched and I have all game but yeah FT is totes suspicious and i was right, see he flipped red!' If FT is not he looks good because he technically was not pushing FT, he was pushing SP who would not have flipped that day. I don't see it being likely that FT is town from that post because it wouldn't make sense for a scum SnB to give a town FT a scumread as WELL as SP. It reads to me as an obvious defense of FT but one done in a way least likely to implicate SnB himself since he was 'covering his bases.' | ||
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On October 03 2013 14:29 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On October 03 2013 14:16 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 03 2013 14:15 Oatsmaster wrote: So WoS/koshi/Pandain/soltice, why not palmar? Pamar could be scum. I just can't read him particularly well and honestly don't know what to make of him, so I certainly wouldn't vote him above any of my other scumreads. Like you, for example. Why is that? Also, what am I doing different from Golden Sun mafia? You push your reads in that game. Haven't seen you push shit here. | ||
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Haven't seen that here. Anything else? You think I just caught you based on your one-liners? Oats plz. | ||
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This game it's a few intermittent reads and like 10000 questions to 10000 people that go nowhere. Real scumhunting right thurr. In Golden Sun I see you push Sn0, I see you push Rayn, and I see you interacting with the thread in a positive way that actually is trying to figure something out. | ||
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On October 03 2013 14:33 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On October 03 2013 14:32 Pandain wrote: I'm going to bed but since I now think Oats is a better lynch I will be pursuing him ##Unvote ##Vote Oats at least to consolidate later votes. Why am I better than FT. Seriously all these horrible votes coming out of the woodwork. You know it's funny, it looks like the scummers are literally trying everyone on my scumreads list aside from FT. Started with Vayne and now Oats. Either or both of you could be scum, or hell, I could be WRONG about both of you, but its the SHEER RESISTANCE to FT that I get that makes me 100% fucking certain. | ||
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