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On September 16 2013 05:42 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:39 Old Partner wrote:
like there are three possibilities here
1) i am survivor
2) i was given a fake survivor pm by hosts
3) i made up the pm entirely on my own
the point i'm making in that post isn't that #1 is true (though it is), it's that #3 is like profoundly stupid and anyone who things it should feel bad
it's not possible that you made up your role pm if you had, you would have known where your character was in the lore, and then given that link to golden sun wikia a long time ago. the possibility is that you asked the hosts "hey can you give me a survivor fake claim" and they copied wos's pm and changed the flavor to a different character in the game. but bh no response to my awesome squirtle breadcrumb uncover?
I have a pretty strong opinion on Squirtle
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grack PS/DB scumteam anyone?
##vote Papa_Smurf
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On September 16 2013 08:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:On September 16 2013 08:18 Koshi wrote:
woopiefuckingdoo you got a townread on PS.
better claim veteran!!!!! you guys are pushing somebody who I think is very likely town into being lynched in a cycle when we have a practically mod-confirmed anti-town. He wasn't going to get lynched. Unless OP would do something spectacular I was always going back to him. FFS
aww man i gotta put in EFFORT what is this communist russia
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wait grack is a vet? why would you even claim that, i'm being lynched 100% today anyways.
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far be it from me, blazinghand, to say that you guys need to tone it down, but-- you guys need to tone it down. we dont' have time for a shitshow if we're gonna save me from being lynched today
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Hi Umasi! While you are here, I was wondering if you could give us an update on your PS/DB read. Last you mentioned him was here.
On September 14 2013 11:06 Umasi wrote:
that would mean I think debs and zealot are town, and I think debs (papa smurf) could be, but zealot I'm less sure on.
And it's unclear what your read on PS/DB is. Could you clarify, please?
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On September 16 2013 13:05 Umasi wrote:
PS/DB is probably town.
how probably is probably
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On September 16 2013 13:19 Umasi wrote:
pretty probably?
why does it matter.
I'm trying to gauge whether I'll be able to convince you to lynch PS/DB instead of me
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Like, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch, which means even if I unite everyone not-voting-for-me onto a glorious PS/DB wagon, I need to pick off one of the people voting for me presently. Just sort of sounding out my options here
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Yeah that's a reasonable position to take, and is probably the position I'd take if I were in a game in which this happened. Not really sure I can argue with a policy lynch of a second survivor claim other than "it sucks to be me"
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The worst part is, I can't even like say my wagon is being pushed by scum or whatever. They don't need to push OR not push my wagon, they're fine with my alive and fine with me getting lynched. If I hadn't claimed 3p I could at least try to see if people had bad motivations for pushing me, but who doesn't have a good motivation right now? ._.
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On September 16 2013 13:24 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 13:21 Old Partner wrote:
Like, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch, which means even if I unite everyone not-voting-for-me onto a glorious PS/DB wagon, I need to pick off one of the people voting for me presently. Just sort of sounding out my options here Your task was to catch scum and make a convincing case. Why don't you just go do that?
Umasi doesn't plan on unvoting me because he's voting me as a matter of policy. Lynch the second Survivor claim. Most of the people on my wagon are like that. The people who aren't voting me can't even get on the PS/DB wagon. Honestly, Zealos is probably the optimal lynch today, the one most likely to hit scum. If I push him, though, all that happens is it's less likely PS/DB gets lynched instead of me.
My goal isn't for town to win-- my goal is for me to live. That means trying to get PS/DB lynched even if he's not the scummiest, since that's what the people who aren't voting for me seem to be going for. You really don't understand my situation at all, do you?
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Like, when I die, I lose. The game is over for me. When I'm a townie or I'm a scum player, I go down in a blaze of glory because death is not the end. Whether it means writing amazing reads as town, or shitting up the thread as scum, I always have something I can do now to win after I die.
But as a Survivor with a pile of votes on me for reasons of policy, and another pile of votes on a difficult-to-lynch player who's constantly whining about being voted? I guess I should be trying to convince you to vote PS/DB. But it's not happening. There's no point in making a principled stand. Once I'm dead, it's gg.
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And of course whining about it doesn't help me, since people voting me on policy would need to be seriously convinced about PS/DB to unvote, and QQ isn't gonna do that. Bleagh. I guess I should see if I could convince you grack.
tell me about your PS/DB read. and your reason for voting me.
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On September 16 2013 13:36 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 13:29 Old Partner wrote:
And of course whining about it doesn't help me, since people voting me on policy would need to be seriously convinced about PS/DB to unvote, and QQ isn't gonna do that. Bleagh. I guess I should see if I could convince you grack.
tell me about your PS/DB read. and your reason for voting me. Debears has been pro-town all game long Your breadcrumb for being survivor wasn't up to normal BH standards and S&B may have even somehow inexplicably found your actual SK breadcrumb. I do not believe there has ever before been a game on TL with 2 survivors and 15 players.
You say debears has been pro-town all game long. Are you referring to his activity levels, his choice of target, his ability / willingness to convince other players, how he's affected town atmosphere, what reads he has had, or some other metric?
If I were SK, I would have claimed Vigilante. It's really that simple. Hell, if I were SK, I would claim SK and use my shots for the "good of the town" and try to get into a kingmaker scenario. I sure wouldn't claim survivor.
Your statement about the previous setups of 15-player games on TL is true, but I have been in many closed set games that were first-of-their-kinds on TL. It's not a strong argument for my survivorhood, but you can't OUTRIGHT dismiss the possibility.
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the only joke here is Grack's play
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I'm pretty proud of that one!
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if I'm the SK how does this sound, I shoot who you tell me to shoot tonight and we lynch PS now? eh eh eh
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and by "you" i mean you personally koshi
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