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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 01:08 GMT
#1807
On September 15 2013 09:38 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 07:41 Old Partner wrote:
I'm not saying there's no reason to be suspicious of me-- there obviously is. 2 survivors in a game, especially a normal mini, is pretty rare. But it happens! ShiaoPi is crazy, he'd do it. I'm not confirmed scum. So given that there's a non-zero chance that I am who I say I am, all I ask is this: read what I have to say today. If you dismiss it, you dismiss it. But I will try to convince you to let me live.

yeahh...
no.

Would still rather kill SnB tho.


Man SnB is actually town but if enough people want to lynch him that it will save me, fuck it, i'm down
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 01:09 GMT
#1809
On September 15 2013 10:08 Pandain wrote:
Zealos besides SnB who do you think is scum.

Why did you make this post and how can you justify it;
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 09:38 Zealos wrote:
On September 15 2013 07:41 Old Partner wrote:
I'm not saying there's no reason to be suspicious of me-- there obviously is. 2 survivors in a game, especially a normal mini, is pretty rare. But it happens! ShiaoPi is crazy, he'd do it. I'm not confirmed scum. So given that there's a non-zero chance that I am who I say I am, all I ask is this: read what I have to say today. If you dismiss it, you dismiss it. But I will try to convince you to let me live.

yeahh...
no.

Would still rather kill SnB tho.


When before you made this post.
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 07:18 Zealos wrote:
I think OP/BH needs to die. Survivor = lynch
I doubt he even is Survivor. His attempt to argue his way out of it is crummy, at best. Get it?

##Predayvote:OP

vigipls



oh shit this is so on the money I take back my last statement and I +1, Like, and Give 2 Eprops to this statement
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 05:25 GMT
#1856
On September 15 2013 11:15 Koshi wrote:
So SnB is likely town and BH is going to yell that WOS got RB and that SnB is scum. Funzies for tomorrow. Sleepy time for me.


except SnB is town. he's always been town
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 05:34 GMT
#1858
On September 15 2013 12:04 Pandain wrote:
I'm going through what, first, is the obvious choice. Lynch OP . His original posts following the thread:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 07:36 Old Partner wrote:
Well how boned am I now? fuck

show or indicate a mindset where he is willing to give up. As in, he doesn't believe he can prove he's town.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972&currentpage=71#1410

read this page and be proven wrong
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 05:36 GMT
#1859
On May 20 2013 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 12:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Mario Mini Mafia:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16895808

On November 14 2012 07:06 Blazinghand wrote:
Scumslips don't exist. Townies "scumslip" as much as scum do. There are scum mindsets and scum ways of doing things, but revealing "extra info" or telling someone you're scum inadvertently happens equally to scum or town. It's self-serving of me to mention this, but it's also true.



I know scumslips are real, having made them myself and by catching mafia with them, and i can tell the difference between something a townie could make and scum could make.
Furthermore a townie wouldn't work so fast in covering their tracks. I would expect a townie to be like WTF??!?!? in a similar way that WoS reacted to me calling you out.

You reacted in the exact same way you said you did as scum in the post game for "the game?".

When you say something scummy you try and immediately call it out yourself so as people can;t call you out for it.

Obviously I am not going to convince you you are scum. So I am ending this discussion. I will talk to townies about this.


On May 20 2013 13:05 DarthPunk wrote:

You then have an Oh Fuck! moment when you realize how badly you fucked up. And begin damage control.


and so on even though I was town that game

this is just how I react to things
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 06:01 GMT
#1867
Honestly I believe kush. would he really NEED to have an explanation to be a bad contributor today when he can just say "we must lynch OP" and be done with it? there's no reason for him to say this unless it's the truth.
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 06:04 GMT
#1868
Like really there are a lot of ways to opt out of the discourse today
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 07:33 GMT
#1872
Yeah I'm aware what I've done so far won't convince anyone, and everyone who currently matters has already voted me. I need to do something more drastic/better, and that will require work and reading the thread. That being said, Pandain, you really don't understand how I play. You can tell me that when I'm town I'm "calm, if passionate" and I don't use caps but that's not really an accurate portrayal of how I play. Anyone who reads that post will realize that also it's not possible that you've digested 7 of my games. You don't even know me.
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 17:44 GMT
#1968
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!

For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT

If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either

1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor

neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.

And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 17:46 GMT
#1970
Of course you don't "see" a case on debears grack all you want to do is sit by annoyingly while i get lynched
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 17:48 GMT
#1972
I'm sorry rayn, I'm just saying it's not my fault my role name doesn't happen to be on the wiki. It's the PM I got, what am I supposed to do about it?
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 17:51 GMT
#1976
On September 16 2013 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote:
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!

For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT

If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either

1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor

neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.

And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack

I think you are either
1) SK with BP ability, or
2) Scum

In either case The Captain is your fakeclaim. I agree with you that people questioning the rolename are dumb.
You have yet to deliver. Now stop defending yourself and tell people who is scum and why.


yeah yeah I know defending myself has zero impact on whether or not I get lynched, but when I see people being WRONG I have to tell them they're wrong. This is just who I am.

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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 18:16 GMT
#1980
On September 16 2013 03:14 Koshi wrote:
wtf are you doing OP?


contemplating whether I can write a convincing case on PS/DB. In theory, I'd like to be convinced myself by it as well. In practice, if I think I can write a sufficiently convincing one, even if I personally am not convinced I can just pretend to be. What are you up to?
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 18:22 GMT
#1982
On September 16 2013 03:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 03:16 Old Partner wrote:
On September 16 2013 03:14 Koshi wrote:
wtf are you doing OP?


contemplating whether I can write a convincing case on PS/DB. In theory, I'd like to be convinced myself by it as well. In practice, if I think I can write a sufficiently convincing one, even if I personally am not convinced I can just pretend to be. What are you up to?

Well do you think he is scum?

I'm gonna sort of poke through his filter and votes and let you know
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 19:12 GMT
#2001
On September 16 2013 04:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 03:16 Old Partner wrote:
On September 16 2013 03:14 Koshi wrote:
wtf are you doing OP?


contemplating whether I can write a convincing case on PS/DB. In theory, I'd like to be convinced myself by it as well. In practice, if I think I can write a sufficiently convincing one, even if I personally am not convinced I can just pretend to be. What are you up to?

Dude, if you are survivor.

Start lynching scums. Because scum is not going to shoot a second survivor.

You have been useless for 48 hours since your claim while in those 48 hours you have been saying you will be useful.

**yawn**

#notimpressedbyBH


You clearly dont understand the purpose of a survivor. Obviously scum isn't going to shoot me, but I think my optimal play here isn't to lynch scum, but really to lynch anyone but myself. My goal isn't to find scum, it's to find someone to lynch and write a case on it that will either A) unite the various people who aren't voting for me but are interested in lynching different people or B) get people voting me to unvote me. Now, if it turns out I find scum while I do this, that's fine. Ostensibly, any case I write is in theory trying to convince you that the target is scum.

If you think my goal for today is "lynch scum" though you are sorely mistaken.
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 19:17 GMT
#2007
On September 16 2013 04:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 04:12 Old Partner wrote:
On September 16 2013 04:08 Koshi wrote:
On September 16 2013 03:16 Old Partner wrote:
On September 16 2013 03:14 Koshi wrote:
wtf are you doing OP?


contemplating whether I can write a convincing case on PS/DB. In theory, I'd like to be convinced myself by it as well. In practice, if I think I can write a sufficiently convincing one, even if I personally am not convinced I can just pretend to be. What are you up to?

Dude, if you are survivor.

Start lynching scums. Because scum is not going to shoot a second survivor.

You have been useless for 48 hours since your claim while in those 48 hours you have been saying you will be useful.

**yawn**

#notimpressedbyBH


You clearly dont understand the purpose of a survivor. Obviously scum isn't going to shoot me, but I think my optimal play here isn't to lynch scum, but really to lynch anyone but myself. My goal isn't to find scum, it's to find someone to lynch and write a case on it that will either A) unite the various people who aren't voting for me but are interested in lynching different people or B) get people voting me to unvote me. Now, if it turns out I find scum while I do this, that's fine. Ostensibly, any case I write is in theory trying to convince you that the target is scum.

If you think my goal for today is "lynch scum" though you are sorely mistaken.

OK THEN FIND A TOWNIE THAT YOU CAN CONVINCE US THAT IS 100% SCUM.

There seriously is no other option.


you mean find a player I can convince you that is 100% scum, but yes, a townie would suffice.
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 20:38 GMT
#2033
On September 16 2013 05:28 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote:
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!

For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT

If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either

1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor

neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.

And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack

okay actually i don't like that bh leaves out the possibility that he's SK who got a fake survivor claim from the hosts. that's the obviously more likely possibility than the two he outlines but he tries to gloss over it without addressing it.


man the point of the thing isn't that it somehow exonerates me, the point of that post is that people who say I made up my role PM are like super double dumb.
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 20:39 GMT
#2035
like there are three possibilities here

1) i am survivor
2) i was given a fake survivor pm by hosts
3) i made up the pm entirely on my own

the point i'm making in that post isn't that #1 is true (though it is), it's that #3 is like profoundly stupid and anyone who things it should feel bad
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 20:41 GMT
#2038
On September 16 2013 05:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:38 Old Partner wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:28 strongandbig wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote:
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!

For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT

If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either

1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor

neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.

And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack

okay actually i don't like that bh leaves out the possibility that he's SK who got a fake survivor claim from the hosts. that's the obviously more likely possibility than the two he outlines but he tries to gloss over it without addressing it.


man the point of the thing isn't that it somehow exonerates me, the point of that post is that people who say I made up my role PM are like super double dumb.

You are so boring.


yeah, i know, none of that that i've posted gives anyone any reason to unvote me ;_; I'll think of something, okay! >.>
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Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 20:42 GMT
#2041
re: zealos it's pretty obvious he hasn't been reading the thread by his responses and his level of posting. A lynch on him is good but I don't think there are enough people who would get on board with him (a lot of people would say we should just lynch me today and give him a chance to catch up). Although objectively I'd say it's a good lynch if we're trying to hit scum, pushing Zealos won't save my life.
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