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On September 13 2013 02:07 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sno why do you think debears is scum? *STARSENSES* Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 12:12 Papa_Smurf wrote:I'm going to win the worst mafia play of the year award now  also scumslip or something Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 15:59 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 15:44 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 15:14 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 14:49 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 14:47 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play
Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance.
And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge Do you think that Pandain is scum? No. You didnt read his post to see what he actually said (you misinterpreted it) What did I misinterpret? You have a reason to believe he is town? Eh a closer look at that post has some out of place things READ THIS WHOLE QUOTE CHAIN PLEASE. He's excusing pandain pretty hard then a soft-backoff Basically, its mega weak association garbage that I threw together to make a scumteam that then failed because there are 4 not 3 scum. He's not on my lynch list today, but he's scummier than null. BD and to a lesser extend panda tho...
sn0 I would like an answer for you on htis
On September 12 2013 15:14 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 14:49 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 14:47 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play
Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance.
And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge Do you think that Pandain is scum? No. You didnt read his post to see what he actually said (you misinterpreted it)
On September 12 2013 15:59 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 15:44 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 15:14 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 14:49 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 14:47 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play
Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance.
And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge Do you think that Pandain is scum? No. You didnt read his post to see what he actually said (you misinterpreted it) What did I misinterpret? You have a reason to believe he is town? Eh a closer look at that post has some out of place things
How do these quotes not infer that I reread panduins post and then posted the questions I had about it?
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On September 13 2013 02:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
Iunno, kush seems pretty lynchable to me (in general, not right now).
If he doesn't start playing like persona 4 then we just lynch him ezpz. Give him time to get rolling tho. Considering how valuable to town he was in P4 I'm in no hurry to get him.
Thats like a large part of my thoughts on blubbdavid. Who wants to lynch Kush/Koshi D1? scum do lol. Okay I wanted to lynch Koshi D1 but he fucked up a Self-Aware miller claim day 1.
Where'd kush go anyways?
So, you are going to base all of kush's townplay off of one game he played really well in and hold him to that standard? That doesn't make sense. That game is an outlier for him.
@Everyone
Kush is not unreadable in any way. He's hard to read, but he has scum tells that differ from his town game. He should not be vig shot. He should be lynched if his posting continues the way it does.
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On September 13 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 02:38 Grackaroni wrote:
@Blubbdavid, If onegu doesn't start playing then he is a solid vig shot as well. I've played with kush before and I doubt he is going to start playing at this point, but there's no way of reading him so it's a waste of a lynch. We don't use lynches on anti-town players we use them on scum players. If we pushed lynches on players such as kush who play anti-town regardless of alignment, then everybody would be in agreement and drop their vote on kush and we would have no information for day2
You are the only player I can remember arguing that kush is likely scum. Everybody else is voting for kush as a policy. To punish kush for playing the way he does and to discourage him from playing like that again in future games. This is bad and wrong. We lynch people who are not willing to help town. Getting rid of distractions sooner is better than thinking if we can get rid of them anymore later on.
You are telling me you cannot get a better read on somebody for a lynch besides kush? Why lynch anti town players when we could be lynching scum? (you don't need to answer this, don't really want to argue about policy at this point)
If Debaers said I was BAD not sure if scum then why are you disagreeing with my points? Sure, he didn't outright say, hey let's lynch grackaroni for being bad but I can infer it. What's the purpose otherwise of writing a paragraph on why a player is bad, and afterwards voting for a policy lynch. His top lynch targets were on people he would describe as bad, rather than scum.
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@Above: I have no idea why I said Debears, Pandain. panda/bear. lol I'm getting all mixed up.
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One more thing. Vayne and I seem to be thinking along the same paths. That's a good sign. Grack has constantly been along my line of thinking. good sign.
As of now, I will be down for a blubb lynch and kush lynch.
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I am having a hard time reading OP's posts. Is he gonzaw's smurf? I want to see further contributions of his before I form an opinion.
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On September 13 2013 02:55 Sn0_Man wrote:
If he keeps making 1000 word posts he will either slip somewhere or he will be obvtown.
Its like marv, you don't lynch him day 1 but if he keeps being useless you nail him eventually since its obvious when he isn't catching scum. Not quite the same but a similar idea.
Uhh.. look. He summed up the thread happenings. How can you "mess up" by doing so? He gave not a single thought that could be considered to be contributing. He said "i am okay with policy lynching kush but i don't even know the guy, i base my opinion on what other people say about him!! That's bullshit.
There are atm 4 people who have contributed absolutely nothing and are not helping:
Old Partner - made 2 posts with "content"
Zealos - I even asked him to "pick two most important things in thread atm". He failed and gave some stupid comment and fucked off
Onegu - apparently has internet problems, no solid read on him, does not make him scum
kush - useless atm, but that's how he is and it does not make him scum, need to hear more from
Now, Old Partner and Zealos are decent lynches from those people atm.
I think vayne is town, aswell as blubb, Grack, and you.
Slight town on Pandain, SnB, GK, they need to post more.
Null on Koshi, WoS (and obv kush & Onegu)
Leaning scum on debears.
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Final thing
This is a pure policy on raynp
If rayne EVER in game says he fake claims, we are lynching him on the spot. No questions asked. He heavily messed up the last game for town by his fakeclaim shenanigans (fakeclaiming 3 times apparently since the host said he never got shot).
MAKE SURE WE LYNCH RAYNP IF HE EVER FAKECLAIMS
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On September 13 2013 03:01 Papa_Smurf wrote:
One more thing. Vayne and I seem to be thinking along the same paths. That's a good sign. Grack has constantly been along my line of thinking. good sign.
As of now, I will be down for a blubb lynch and kush lynch.
I remember you as a guy who is not hopping on easy lynches. You are a guy who gives reasoning for his reads and acts based on it.
You have a valid point on kush (in your other post), however discussing it is useless.
Why is blubb scum?
Can you comment on my case on Old Partner?
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No you missed something, i fakeclaimed mason, vigi x2, cop, being shot, BP, SK, i think it's 6.
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On September 13 2013 03:04 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Final thing
This is a pure policy on raynp
If rayne EVER in game says he fake claims, we are lynching him on the spot. No questions asked. He heavily messed up the last game for town by his fakeclaim shenanigans (fakeclaiming 3 times apparently since the host said he never got shot).
MAKE SURE WE LYNCH RAYNP IF HE EVER FAKECLAIMS
I can't tell if this is town trying to keep rayn in check or scum trying to get a free policy lynch.
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haha, i laughed when i read "free" :D
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I'm leaning scum tbh. Even though I hate rayn's claims with a passion its probably not unreasonable to say that they cause some amount of uncertainty to the scummers who would probably not mind doing without.
Although rayns reads this game are even worse than most of his other games (apparently thats even possible) so there is that.
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On September 13 2013 03:04 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Final thing
This is a pure policy on raynp
If rayne EVER in game says he fake claims, we are lynching him on the spot. No questions asked. He heavily messed up the last game for town by his fakeclaim shenanigans (fakeclaiming 3 times apparently since the host said he never got shot).
MAKE SURE WE LYNCH RAYNP IF HE EVER FAKECLAIMS
Actually. Explain to me how i messed up the game and how you come to a conclusion i should be policy lynched if i fakeclaim? Also why can't i fakeclaim as scum, as your post suggests that you know i am town already (read the policy-word)?
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On September 13 2013 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm leaning scum tbh. Even though I hate rayn's claims with a passion its probably not unreasonable to say that they cause some amount of uncertainty to the scummers who would probably not mind doing without.
Although rayns reads this game are even worse than most of his other games (apparently thats even possible) so there is that.
<3
Who's found scum in last couple of games and who's not? *Ego*
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Hey guys
Posting from phone in class
Posting notes:
+ Show Spoiler +
Partner wants to know if I have a scum read on koshi
I don't like pandaman's role name reasoning. No reason hosts can't mix up the roles or give scum safe fake claims. Also from his post his opinions are basically easy ones - kush needs to straighten up. No lurking. Super scummy opening post IMO.
Then in his next post grack makes a decent attack but twists pandaman's argument - he didn't say lynch grack cause he's bad. He said lunch grack cause he's noncommittal.
Ppl talking about me finding debears smurf slip as coach. I clicked profile and last posts on his account. Not very hard to do.
I like Ryan's first four posts/entry into the thread. Okay wait maybe not - rayne is quibbling about old partners questions with koshi but asking about stupid things...
Rayen says that good karma looks good about the early day 1 quarrel - wtf where did this come from...
Ryan's reasons for saying that grack is scum are also terrible. And he keeps going on about panda in being better than old partner but they just feel completely different...
Anyway non rayne notes.
Fracks case on blubbdavod interesting . Go reread.
Wtf is up with snoman yelling about onegu
Here's the thing with Ryan. He argues and gets in people's faces and posts a million times as either alignment. The biggest difference is when he's scum he argues about things that don't matter and don't move the town forward, but when he's town he actually pushes on points that are important. Just compare his scum filter from game of thrones and compare that to his town filter from aperture 2, the difference is obvious.
My first reaction is "this is scum Ryan". He's arguing a lot about old partners questions from early in the game but he's finding quibbles and there's no way what koshi thinks of those questions is remotely worth the amount of text Ryan puts in. Ditto for the arguing about whether grack could really have changed his mind for the reasons he said.
I'm not sure about rayne though. For me it's always hard to figure him out for sure because of how constantly interactive he is even as scum.
One other thing - I think panda in is scum. His post was that bad and opening posts are inportant. He had only easy scum opinions - lunch kush, lurkers bad - in that post. plus he has obviously bad reasoning on role names and bad justification for his town reads on me, va, and gk. like, what townie sees someone whose only comment on the main issues in the thread was "that's silly" and says "oh yes that guy is town, the whole thread really was a distraction." Plus I don't think vayne was moving the thread forward as much as shouting at people/being aggro, and it was really easy for me to click on papasmirf's profile button. None of those strike me as townie reasons for townreads.
Right now I want to lynch pandaman's. however, before I vote I want to reread the blurb case as well.
Anyway I have a problem set due tmo so I'm probably not gonna be voting until tomorrow morning.
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On September 13 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 02:38 Grackaroni wrote:
@Blubbdavid, If onegu doesn't start playing then he is a solid vig shot as well. I've played with kush before and I doubt he is going to start playing at this point, but there's no way of reading him so it's a waste of a lynch. We don't use lynches on anti-town players we use them on scum players. If we pushed lynches on players such as kush who play anti-town regardless of alignment, then everybody would be in agreement and drop their vote on kush and we would have no information for day2
You are the only player I can remember arguing that kush is likely scum. Everybody else is voting for kush as a policy. To punish kush for playing the way he does and to discourage him from playing like that again in future games. This is bad and wrong. We lynch people who are not willing to help town. Getting rid of distractions sooner is better than thinking if we can get rid of them anymore later on.
Mafia Agenda 101 from Professor Ace right here.
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Holy shit team lets all lynch rayn I'm so down
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SnB explain your last 2 posts please?
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