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On September 13 2013 03:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can't see this game ending well for us at this rate, time to stop worrying about other games and play the game please.
There's 4 or 5 players that haven't done shit yet, you guys aren't lynching each other so just stop.
i never said i wanted to lynch raynp. Blubb and kush are the main candidates for me.
Onegu should be vigged. If not let's see what he comes up with if his internet is actually down.
WoS is starting to worry me.
He said he'd be gone all friday and saturday, yet he hasn't posted anything or show any urgency this game to get in substantive posts. Instead, he went to watch masterchef all night apparently. Also, his post is questionable. He's on my scumdar also.
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On September 13 2013 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 03:01 Papa_Smurf wrote:
One more thing. Vayne and I seem to be thinking along the same paths. That's a good sign. Grack has constantly been along my line of thinking. good sign.
As of now, I will be down for a blubb lynch and kush lynch. I remember you as a guy who is not hopping on easy lynches. You are a guy who gives reasoning for his reads and acts based on it. You have a valid point on kush (in your other post), however discussing it is useless. Why is blubb scum? Can you comment on my case on Old Partner?
+ 2 questions.
1) Why are you shitting up the thread for no reason?
2) What's wrong with my play in this gmae? Does it make me scum? How?
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Well I was about to call you a liar then I read the thread since then and discovered my response never got posted.
oops.
Basically I'm saying that you reflexively defended Panda then backed off once you actually read his post, which looks pretty weak.
Thats from memory what I said in the post that never showed up. Also the first sentence was terrible english so it was a bit hard to know for sure what you were asking 
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EBWOP was at papa smurf.
PS dibbers is actually making sense my scumteam is wrong T_T
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On September 13 2013 03:54 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
Did marv tell you not to tunnel a townie Day 1? This was a serious question rayn. Lynching you doesn't seem as unreasonable as I had thought. I'm wondering where your famous day-1 tunnel has gone? its almost halfway through day 1 already.
So what, i need to tunnel a townie to not get lynched on D1? Is that what you are saying? I don't see where you are heading with this so could you please clarify?
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I would disagree on WoS, his opening post was solid and real life should never be taken into account when forming scum reads. If you really want to look into it though, he's usually town when he gives these excuses since he probably gets really paranoid or whatever that people will think he's scum.
I can't read onegu for shit, so I honestly couldn't care less if he's vigged or whatever. He looks really scummy to me as both alignments in every game so no comment there.
Blubb's response to my case was satisfactory so doubt ill be leaving my vote there by the end of this cycle, but he needs to do a lot more then just that.
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On September 13 2013 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 03:54 Sn0_Man wrote:On September 13 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
Did marv tell you not to tunnel a townie Day 1? This was a serious question rayn. Lynching you doesn't seem as unreasonable as I had thought. I'm wondering where your famous day-1 tunnel has gone? its almost halfway through day 1 already. So what, i need to tunnel a townie to not get lynched on D1? Is that what you are saying? I don't see where you are heading with this so could you please clarify?
I've never played with you where you weren't certain you'd nailed scum day 1. It doesn't feel like you, so I'm wondering if this is some sort of "new you" based on chats with marv or if this is some sort of scum afraid of looking bad so avoiding any kind of ridiculous tunnel. Alternately scum you unable to enter the "X MUST BE SCUM" mindset that you use when you are town.
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Also nobody has explained why Pandain's post is wrong in any way. Someone who's calling it bad/wrong explain.
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On September 13 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 13 2013 03:01 Papa_Smurf wrote:
One more thing. Vayne and I seem to be thinking along the same paths. That's a good sign. Grack has constantly been along my line of thinking. good sign.
As of now, I will be down for a blubb lynch and kush lynch. I remember you as a guy who is not hopping on easy lynches. You are a guy who gives reasoning for his reads and acts based on it. You have a valid point on kush (in your other post), however discussing it is useless. Why is blubb scum? Can you comment on my case on Old Partner? + 2 questions. 1) Why are you shitting up the thread for no reason? 2) What's wrong with my play in this gmae? Does it make me scum? How?
I'm not answering the second two questions. Read my posts on you and infer what my read on you is and why I posted what I did the way I did. Otherwise, I'll starting calling you names again because you aren't reading.
What's wrong with an "easy" lynch when the lynch candidate is doing stuff that is inherently scummy?
Vayne and friends have posted enough reasoning to lynch him, and I agree with them.
If you want, I can make a giant post about what I think about blubb and why he be scum city if you want (it'll be repeating most of what they said)
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On September 13 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also nobody has explained why Pandain's post is wrong in any way. Someone who's calling it bad/wrong explain.
start reading please
On September 12 2013 15:58 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote:
I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to fully make my thoughts fully comprehensible and eloquent, instead I will just get them written down. College struggles.
Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them.
VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time.
GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction)
I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move.
Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread.
Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got.
Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says.
I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though.
Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen.
I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. The two bolded parts don't seem to come from a town mindset. 1) (As I said in an earlier post), SnB's finding me signing up as a coach for newbies isn't "research". He probably saw the post in the forum with my name as the latest post and looked at it for a second. It's something that either alignment would do, seeing as knowing who the smurf is can help mafia consider nks more easily. 2) The wording you use on kush seems to infer you think he is town "posting like shit" - that is not the same as "posting like scum". Posting like shit would infer that you think he is town and he should post better "he'll be useless to the thread basically" - you say uselessness as though he is town. "he has ignored OP's (my plea actually) plea to stop spamming" - kush hasn't really been spamming. And you act as though he wouldn't ignore OP's plea anyways. If you thought he was town, that would be a reasonable assumption that he should listen to non spam pleas. But, if he's mafia, he doesn't have motive to listen to such pleas other than to avoid being lynched. I find it odd that none of your words come close to calling kush scum, yet you would lynch him purely for posting like shit, uselessness, and ignoring a plea to not spam. Not scumminess. 3) you have a major contradiction here in these two parts of your post Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got. I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos.You say zealos seems town, then say he should be considered highly suspicious. I wouldn't think town would get that mixed up in their reads in one post
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On September 13 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also nobody has explained why Pandain's post is wrong in any way. Someone who's calling it bad/wrong explain.
I wrote a part on that in my big post earlier if you read it. The people that jumped on pandain should be scrutinized heavily. I think there's at least 1 scum there.
also OP concerns me more if hes just gonna come in and drop big weird posts then peace. his questions werent particularly good either
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On September 13 2013 04:03 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 13 2013 03:54 Sn0_Man wrote:On September 13 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
Did marv tell you not to tunnel a townie Day 1? This was a serious question rayn. Lynching you doesn't seem as unreasonable as I had thought. I'm wondering where your famous day-1 tunnel has gone? its almost halfway through day 1 already. So what, i need to tunnel a townie to not get lynched on D1? Is that what you are saying? I don't see where you are heading with this so could you please clarify? I've never played with you where you weren't certain you'd nailed scum day 1. It doesn't feel like you, so I'm wondering if this is some sort of "new you" based on chats with marv or if this is some sort of scum afraid of looking bad so avoiding any kind of ridiculous tunnel. Alternately scum you unable to enter the "X MUST BE SCUM" mindset that you use when you are town.
In my past scum games i enter that too, let it be my scumbuddy or not.
I am trying to play so that people would actually listen to me instead of calling me retarded for the first couple of phases. Does that make me mafia?
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On September 13 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also nobody has explained why Pandain's post is wrong in any way. Someone who's calling it bad/wrong explain.
When are scum wrong? Not very often TBH. We are calling it scummy since its weak contribution, looks really framed (tryhard thread entry is scummy) and the fact that he instantly recanted and peaced is very very weak.
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On September 13 2013 04:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
I would disagree on WoS, his opening post was solid and real life should never be taken into account when forming scum reads. If you really want to look into it though, he's usually town when he gives these excuses since he probably gets really paranoid or whatever that people will think he's scum.
I can't read onegu for shit, so I honestly couldn't care less if he's vigged or whatever. He looks really scummy to me as both alignments in every game so no comment there.
Blubb's response to my case was satisfactory so doubt ill be leaving my vote there by the end of this cycle, but he needs to do a lot more then just that.
But what I'm saying is, Vayne, is that he said "I won't be here Friday and Saturday". Then, goes and lurks first half of d1.
There's a disconnect there from a town perspective.
If I recall correctly, he was one of the more active posters d1 of aperature no?
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On September 13 2013 04:04 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also nobody has explained why Pandain's post is wrong in any way. Someone who's calling it bad/wrong explain. start reading please Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 15:58 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote:
I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to fully make my thoughts fully comprehensible and eloquent, instead I will just get them written down. College struggles.
Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them.
VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time.
GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction)
I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move.
Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread.
Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got.
Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says.
I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though.
Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen.
I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. The two bolded parts don't seem to come from a town mindset. 1) (As I said in an earlier post), SnB's finding me signing up as a coach for newbies isn't "research". He probably saw the post in the forum with my name as the latest post and looked at it for a second. It's something that either alignment would do, seeing as knowing who the smurf is can help mafia consider nks more easily. 2) The wording you use on kush seems to infer you think he is town "posting like shit" - that is not the same as "posting like scum". Posting like shit would infer that you think he is town and he should post better "he'll be useless to the thread basically" - you say uselessness as though he is town. "he has ignored OP's (my plea actually) plea to stop spamming" - kush hasn't really been spamming. And you act as though he wouldn't ignore OP's plea anyways. If you thought he was town, that would be a reasonable assumption that he should listen to non spam pleas. But, if he's mafia, he doesn't have motive to listen to such pleas other than to avoid being lynched. I find it odd that none of your words come close to calling kush scum, yet you would lynch him purely for posting like shit, uselessness, and ignoring a plea to not spam. Not scumminess. 3) you have a major contradiction here in these two parts of your post Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got. I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos.You say zealos seems town, then say he should be considered highly suspicious. I wouldn't think town would get that mixed up in their reads in one post
Right. Does this make him scum? My argument throughout the day has been that OP has been bringing up the exact same invalid points - besides this NOTHING MORE! How is Pandain more suspicious than OP?
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On September 13 2013 04:06 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also nobody has explained why Pandain's post is wrong in any way. Someone who's calling it bad/wrong explain. When are scum wrong? Not very often TBH. We are calling it scummy since its weak contribution, looks really framed (tryhard thread entry is scummy) and the fact that he instantly recanted and peaced is very very weak.
So weak contribution when you have not played with these people in ~1yr is better than same bad arguments (besides the good ones) and nothing more?
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On September 13 2013 02:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I've played with kush before and I doubt he is going to start playing at this point, but there's no way of reading him so it's a waste of a lynch.
The fuck?? It hasn't even been half of d1 yet. Grack you need to CHILL THE FUCK OUT son.
I' gonna do a close read tonight then I'll say who I think we should lynch
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On September 13 2013 04:06 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 04:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
I would disagree on WoS, his opening post was solid and real life should never be taken into account when forming scum reads. If you really want to look into it though, he's usually town when he gives these excuses since he probably gets really paranoid or whatever that people will think he's scum.
I can't read onegu for shit, so I honestly couldn't care less if he's vigged or whatever. He looks really scummy to me as both alignments in every game so no comment there.
Blubb's response to my case was satisfactory so doubt ill be leaving my vote there by the end of this cycle, but he needs to do a lot more then just that. But what I'm saying is, Vayne, is that he said "I won't be here Friday and Saturday". Then, goes and lurks first half of d1. There's a disconnect there from a town perspective. If I recall correctly, he was one of the more active posters d1 of aperature no?
I don't see the disconnect. He said what he had to at that point in the game and was done. You can't fault people for the game progessing without them. I barely remember him being in aperture so I doubt he was active in that game.
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On September 13 2013 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 04:04 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 13 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also nobody has explained why Pandain's post is wrong in any way. Someone who's calling it bad/wrong explain. start reading please On September 12 2013 15:58 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote:
I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to fully make my thoughts fully comprehensible and eloquent, instead I will just get them written down. College struggles.
Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them.
VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time.
GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction)
I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move.
Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread.
Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got.
Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says.
I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though.
Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen.
I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. The two bolded parts don't seem to come from a town mindset. 1) (As I said in an earlier post), SnB's finding me signing up as a coach for newbies isn't "research". He probably saw the post in the forum with my name as the latest post and looked at it for a second. It's something that either alignment would do, seeing as knowing who the smurf is can help mafia consider nks more easily. 2) The wording you use on kush seems to infer you think he is town "posting like shit" - that is not the same as "posting like scum". Posting like shit would infer that you think he is town and he should post better "he'll be useless to the thread basically" - you say uselessness as though he is town. "he has ignored OP's (my plea actually) plea to stop spamming" - kush hasn't really been spamming. And you act as though he wouldn't ignore OP's plea anyways. If you thought he was town, that would be a reasonable assumption that he should listen to non spam pleas. But, if he's mafia, he doesn't have motive to listen to such pleas other than to avoid being lynched. I find it odd that none of your words come close to calling kush scum, yet you would lynch him purely for posting like shit, uselessness, and ignoring a plea to not spam. Not scumminess. 3) you have a major contradiction here in these two parts of your post Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got. I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos.You say zealos seems town, then say he should be considered highly suspicious. I wouldn't think town would get that mixed up in their reads in one post Right. Does this make him scum? My argument throughout the day has been that OP has been bringing up the exact same invalid points - besides this NOTHING MORE! How is Pandain more suspicious than OP?
1)Remember how OO wanted to lynch me for being useless, then voted me.
Pandain did the same thing with kush.
2) Then he called someone town and suspicious in the same post. That's definitely awkward if he is town.
3) And his reasoning for his townread on SnB is totally off.
so
1) is scummy
2) is weird as hell for a town to say
3) is bad logic
See what I'm gettin at?
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