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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 17:29 GMT
#381
wtf is this Pandain -- Grackaroni stuff. Why is everyone misreading his post?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 12 2013 17:32 GMT
#382
Is blubb saying that other people made retarded connection cases?
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 17:33 GMT
#383
On September 13 2013 02:29 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1) Why did you not say clearly why you thought / think(?) Grackaroni is scum?
2) Why the retarded connection case?
3) Why exactly is Koshi scum?

1) I think Grack is scum because 1. his jumping at Panda, though that doesn't make for a very strong case, and 2. the retarded connection case.
2) The connection between Grack and kush? Because in another game I once defended my bad scumbuddy in the same manner as Grack did here, leaving it for the vig.
Show nested quote +

Lets get real, Kush playing anti-town is nothing new from him. He does it as both alignments. If he doesn't start contributing, we vig him and we move on. Lynches should be used on players we can actually analyze.
Imo, both vigs and lynches should be used on players we can analyze. Grack clearly doesn't want to see kush lynched and delegating the task to the maybe existing vigi nonchalantly. Grack, out of onegu and kush, who should be vig'd?
3)
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 07:23 Koshi wrote:
On September 12 2013 07:21 strongandbig wrote:
On September 12 2013 07:20 Koshi wrote:
On September 12 2013 07:18 strongandbig wrote:
yes.

koshi how

Search and destroy. I ll catch them. np.

ok but how will you make sure the rest of town doesnt lynch not scum

How do you know I am town?

##vote StrongandBig

SnB's post is not a scumslip. Koshi's unvoting really makes me more suspicious now, even though I sometimes was losing grip at Koshi's case. Atleast I am not giving up to peer pressure.

1) Okay, reasonable.
2) No, the connection case on Grack and Koshi, the one you back up with two quotes when you vote for Grack.
3) Yes, SnB's post is not a scumslip. However, how does Koshi saying so make him scum? Townies make mistakes all the time and cling on flimsy stuff. Why can't Koshi make that assumption from town!pov and how is him backing off now a scumtell? Can i say you are scum because you make connection cases pre-flip (that really is stupid).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 17:34 GMT
#384
EBWOP: Blubb, where does Grack make a connection case?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 12 2013 17:35 GMT
#385
On September 13 2013 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Blubb, where does Grack make a connection case?

I think he meant himself. Not certain. lol.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 17:36 GMT
#386
On September 13 2013 02:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Blubb, where does Grack make a connection case?

I think he meant himself. Not certain. lol.

Yeah that's why i asked. :D
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 12 2013 17:37 GMT
#387
On September 13 2013 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 02:35 Koshi wrote:
On September 13 2013 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Blubb, where does Grack make a connection case?

I think he meant himself. Not certain. lol.

Yeah that's why i asked. :D

I asked first.
I had a good night of sleep.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
September 12 2013 17:38 GMT
#388
@Blubbdavid, If onegu doesn't start playing then he is a solid vig shot as well. I've played with kush before and I doubt he is going to start playing at this point, but there's no way of reading him so it's a waste of a lynch. We don't use lynches on anti-town players we use them on scum players. If we pushed lynches on players such as kush who play anti-town regardless of alignment, then everybody would be in agreement and drop their vote on kush and we would have no information for day2

You are the only player I can remember arguing that kush is likely scum. Everybody else is voting for kush as a policy. To punish kush for playing the way he does and to discourage him from playing like that again in future games.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 12 2013 17:39 GMT
#389
Heh, even Panda is misreading his own post.
On September 12 2013 14:03 Pandain wrote:
Ignore this post except for one key point I realized so we can stay on track of what matters: lurkers.

Zealos's post doesn't mean anything I think; I think he was referring to his name in the mythical realm known as real life. Wouldn't make sense otherwise.

Also kush I'll probably change from you, I was once the huge spammer too. I'll just ask you to step it up.

and snoman how are your "let's lynch BD" anyhow useful.
On September 13 2013 01:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 01:46 blubbdavid wrote:
Koshi's push against SnB then was even less justified then my read on Koshi.

So you are admitting that your VOTE on koshi wasn't justified at all?

Yep, this guy is scum.

PS NMM5 is a long-ass time ago lol

This is wrong, as I stated before. Your suspicions come from that line and, as you earlier stated, that I am a bad scum/anti- town player? I want some more analysis and less fluff. Especially less fluff.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 12 2013 17:40 GMT
#390
On September 13 2013 02:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Blubb, where does Grack make a connection case?

I think he meant himself. Not certain. lol.

Yeah, I meant myself.
Probably we are talking about different things, mind to repeat what you meant by "Retarded Connection case"?
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
September 12 2013 17:40 GMT
#391
On September 13 2013 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wtf is this Pandain -- Grackaroni stuff. Why is everyone misreading his post?

I think I've got some decent points and I'm not going to be able to get over them until Pandain comes back into the thread and clarifies things.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 12 2013 17:42 GMT
#392
On September 13 2013 02:38 Grackaroni wrote:
@Blubbdavid, If onegu doesn't start playing then he is a solid vig shot as well. I've played with kush before and I doubt he is going to start playing at this point, but there's no way of reading him so it's a waste of a lynch. We don't use lynches on anti-town players we use them on scum players. If we pushed lynches on players such as kush who play anti-town regardless of alignment, then everybody would be in agreement and drop their vote on kush and we would have no information for day2

You are the only player I can remember arguing that kush is likely scum. Everybody else is voting for kush as a policy. To punish kush for playing the way he does and to discourage him from playing like that again in future games.

Well, I haven't played with kush before so I don't know.
Furthermore, to get more light on your business, I think it's time to inquire Pandain, who has not contributed much. We were all focused too much on Pandain's big entry post.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 12 2013 17:43 GMT
#393
Oh, we thought the same thing.
well, happy bd btw
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 12 2013 17:43 GMT
#394
Iunno, kush seems pretty lynchable to me (in general, not right now).
If he doesn't start playing like persona 4 then we just lynch him ezpz. Give him time to get rolling tho. Considering how valuable to town he was in P4 I'm in no hurry to get him.

Thats like a large part of my thoughts on blubbdavid. Who wants to lynch Kush/Koshi D1? scum do lol. Okay I wanted to lynch Koshi D1 but he fucked up a Self-Aware miller claim day 1.

Where'd kush go anyways?
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
September 12 2013 17:46 GMT
#395
On September 13 2013 02:43 blubbdavid wrote:
Oh, we thought the same thing.
well, happy bd btw

haha thanks, it's not actually my birthday though, It's still september 12th in my timezone
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 17:46 GMT
#396
On September 13 2013 02:40 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wtf is this Pandain -- Grackaroni stuff. Why is everyone misreading his post?

I think I've got some decent points and I'm not going to be able to get over them until Pandain comes back into the thread and clarifies things.

This is wrong, Pandain never said you should be lynched, he said "bad, NOT SURE IF SCUM". That does not mean he has a scumread on you and about half of the playerbase is apparently misrepresenting him. you are right, he should come in and talk himself.

I do not think blubbdavid is scum. Why is everyone unwilling to look at Old Partner's post. Am i wrong when i say all his posts say is this:
Really, what i see is two big posts that say:
1) "This happened then that happened"
2) "These guys could be scum or they could be town"
3) "I wanna policy lynch kush in case i can't find a lynch target on D1. I however do not know kush's meta"

IF i am wrong, tell me why? If i am not, why is this not a good enough reason to vote for him?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 12 2013 17:51 GMT
#397
Did you read what I said on OP? I said theres no way he can keep that up and look town as scum so if it drops off we lynch him and if he keeps it up he could be a huge asset to town. No reason to lynch him D1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 17:52 GMT
#398
On September 13 2013 02:38 Grackaroni wrote:
@Blubbdavid, If onegu doesn't start playing then he is a solid vig shot as well. I've played with kush before and I doubt he is going to start playing at this point, but there's no way of reading him so it's a waste of a lynch. We don't use lynches on anti-town players we use them on scum players. If we pushed lynches on players such as kush who play anti-town regardless of alignment, then everybody would be in agreement and drop their vote on kush and we would have no information for day2

You are the only player I can remember arguing that kush is likely scum. Everybody else is voting for kush as a policy. To punish kush for playing the way he does and to discourage him from playing like that again in future games.

This is bad and wrong. We lynch people who are not willing to help town. Getting rid of distractions sooner is better than thinking if we can get rid of them anymore later on.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 17:53 GMT
#399
On September 13 2013 02:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
Did you read what I said on OP? I said theres no way he can keep that up and look town as scum so if it drops off we lynch him and if he keeps it up he could be a huge asset to town. No reason to lynch him D1.

I am not following you here. We have a guy here who made 1000 words post that says absolutely nothing. Are you saying if he keeps doing the same he is town?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 12 2013 17:55 GMT
#400
If he keeps making 1000 word posts he will either slip somewhere or he will be obvtown.

Its like marv, you don't lynch him day 1 but if he keeps being useless you nail him eventually since its obvious when he isn't catching scum. Not quite the same but a similar idea.
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