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On September 12 2013 12:13 VayneAuthority wrote: I mean we just had a whole argument and you voted me over me having a strong read on SnB early. and you just played with me in aperture.
game changer bro
What?
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On September 12 2013 12:17 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 12:14 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 12:13 VayneAuthority wrote: I mean we just had a whole argument and you voted me over me having a strong read on SnB early. and you just played with me in aperture.
game changer bro What? Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 08:00 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 07:58 VayneAuthority wrote: sup nerds, few concerns
why did blubbdavid come into the thread and say hi then peace completely? he was here yet had nothing to contribute to the game.
SnB is town, get votes off him. just played scum with him and this is obvious already Why are you defending him this early? Why are you so certain he is town that you have to defend him this early in d1? Why are you so certain he is town off so few posts? am I misinterpreting this? You are suspicious of me defending my townread so early right? and you just played with me in aperture where you would know it's not weird that I have strong reads early at all. that is the disconnect here im having. Before you were just an unnamed person that I thought didnt know me but now I've seen you have played with me before. recently even.
I played with you in Aperature where I only read through 60 pages and I didn't have any real solid reads.
I didn't even get to actually play that game. How can I compare that one game that I didn't really play to all of your games?
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On September 12 2013 12:14 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 12:10 Papa_Smurf wrote: @WoS
So you don't find a town perspective of asking the opinion of the person who is receiving a strong town read in the early game? Even I was curious about it for a bit. Of course I do. Look at HOW it's being done however. He's not simply trying to ask SnB's perspective, he wants it so he can USE it towards his own ends---in this case as a way to relieve himself of Vayne suspicion.
I see it equally likely from either perspective.
Town - See what the receiver thinks of the early town read.
Scum - Act involved
Now, if he had a vote on SnB and said SnB was scum, then asked that question, we'd have something to talk about. You are basing this all on scum assumptions by denying any town assumptions
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On September 12 2013 12:21 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 12:19 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 12:17 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 12 2013 12:14 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 12:13 VayneAuthority wrote: I mean we just had a whole argument and you voted me over me having a strong read on SnB early. and you just played with me in aperture.
game changer bro What? On September 12 2013 08:00 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 07:58 VayneAuthority wrote: sup nerds, few concerns
why did blubbdavid come into the thread and say hi then peace completely? he was here yet had nothing to contribute to the game.
SnB is town, get votes off him. just played scum with him and this is obvious already Why are you defending him this early? Why are you so certain he is town that you have to defend him this early in d1? Why are you so certain he is town off so few posts? On September 12 2013 08:01 Papa_Smurf wrote: ##Vote Vayne Authority am I misinterpreting this? You are suspicious of me defending my townread so early right? and you just played with me in aperture where you would know it's not weird that I have strong reads early at all. that is the disconnect here im having. Before you were just an unnamed person that I thought didnt know me but now I've seen you have played with me before. recently even. I played with you in Aperature where I only read through 60 pages and I didn't have any real solid reads. I didn't even get to actually play that game. How can I compare that one game that I didn't really play to all of your games? I mean it was in the first few pages of the game...if you're saying you got no impression from me for that entire game then so be it. I'm not even gonna make a case on that since I know I can do better. Just you're really fishy to me right now, but active at least. Better off waking up tomorrow and seeing what the lurkers scrounged up and re-evaluating from there.
This was the only thing I said. I never had a read on you
On September 02 2013 07:00 debears wrote: Is is me, or did anyone else pick it up that VayneAuthority claimed a third party role in his early posts?
On September 04 2013 09:56 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 09:54 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 04 2013 09:53 cakepie wrote:On September 04 2013 09:52 Risen wrote: Vayne why did you send in the action to change fate? He did it to keep Hassy's ghost around. Ironically, Hassy wouldn't have died if he didn't do that. ... yeah. No way scum would know this though. 100% town move from vayne. Not if vayne was a double agent o.O
How does that imply I ever made a read on you in Aperature?
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On September 12 2013 12:23 WaveofShadow wrote: I see his behaviour as more likely to come from scum. That's about it.
Right now, I'll agree to disagree. If we get other pieces that make a puzzle, you'll have my interest fo sho
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On September 12 2013 12:27 VayneAuthority wrote: there was a perspective issue where I thought everybody reads the game as I do when I join games. I figured you would see a made a reads post very early into the game but that was not the case from what you tell me. It was a bad perspective, and im done with comparing this to another game. See you guys tomorrow.
Nah. I usually just look for something that catches my attention and go from there. I don't really try to "read" everybody day 1 solidly. Just look for strong ones.
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##Vote Kush
Kush who is the main person that jumps out at you from everyone excluding WoS?
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@OP
I'm not gonna lynch SnB solely off a scumslip like that. The vote was a pressure vote. There's plenty of time to see what he does as the game moves on :D
I really hope you are Ver or something cool like that :D
What do you think of Kush's posting content wise?
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I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play
Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance.
And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge
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On September 12 2013 14:49 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 14:47 Papa_Smurf wrote: I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play
Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance.
And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge Do you think that Pandain is scum?
No. You didnt read his post to see what he actually said (you misinterpreted it)
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He didn't call you and kush out as lynch targets for being bad (which was the primary point of your scumread on him).
When he said "bad read" about you it meant "scum read" pretty obviously by how he described your posting.
Then kush is playing scummy in itself (although that's normal for him as town and scum). "Posting like shit" doesn't mean bad (unless he has a town read on kush). It means he's playing anti-town
At least that's what I discerned.
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On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote: I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to fully make my thoughts fully comprehensible and eloquent, instead I will just get them written down. College struggles.
Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them.
VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time. GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction)
I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move. Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread.
Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got.
Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says.
I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though.
Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen.
I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos.
The two bolded parts don't seem to come from a town mindset.
1) (As I said in an earlier post), SnB's finding me signing up as a coach for newbies isn't "research". He probably saw the post in the forum with my name as the latest post and looked at it for a second. It's something that either alignment would do, seeing as knowing who the smurf is can help mafia consider nks more easily.
2) The wording you use on kush seems to infer you think he is town
"posting like shit" - that is not the same as "posting like scum". Posting like shit would infer that you think he is town and he should post better
"he'll be useless to the thread basically" - you say uselessness as though he is town.
"he has ignored OP's (my plea actually) plea to stop spamming" - kush hasn't really been spamming. And you act as though he wouldn't ignore OP's plea anyways. If you thought he was town, that would be a reasonable assumption that he should listen to non spam pleas. But, if he's mafia, he doesn't have motive to listen to such pleas other than to avoid being lynched.
I find it odd that none of your words come close to calling kush scum, yet you would lynch him purely for posting like shit, uselessness, and ignoring a plea to not spam. Not scumminess.
3) you have a major contradiction here in these two parts of your post
Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got.
I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos.
You say zealos seems town, then say he should be considered highly suspicious.
I wouldn't think town would get that mixed up in their reads in one post
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On September 12 2013 15:44 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 15:14 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 14:49 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 14:47 Papa_Smurf wrote: I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play
Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance.
And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge Do you think that Pandain is scum? No. You didnt read his post to see what he actually said (you misinterpreted it) What did I misinterpret? You have a reason to believe he is town?
Eh a closer look at that post has some out of place things
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On September 13 2013 02:07 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sno why do you think debears is scum? *STARSENSES* Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 12:12 Papa_Smurf wrote:I'm going to win the worst mafia play of the year award now also scumslip or something Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 15:59 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 15:44 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 15:14 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 14:49 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 14:47 Papa_Smurf wrote: I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play
Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance.
And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge Do you think that Pandain is scum? No. You didnt read his post to see what he actually said (you misinterpreted it) What did I misinterpret? You have a reason to believe he is town? Eh a closer look at that post has some out of place things READ THIS WHOLE QUOTE CHAIN PLEASE. He's excusing pandain pretty hard then a soft-backoff Basically, its mega weak association garbage that I threw together to make a scumteam that then failed because there are 4 not 3 scum. He's not on my lynch list today, but he's scummier than null. BD and to a lesser extend panda tho...
sn0 I would like an answer for you on htis
On September 12 2013 15:14 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 14:49 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 14:47 Papa_Smurf wrote: I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play
Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance.
And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge Do you think that Pandain is scum? No. You didnt read his post to see what he actually said (you misinterpreted it)
On September 12 2013 15:59 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 15:44 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 15:14 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 12 2013 14:49 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 14:47 Papa_Smurf wrote: I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play
Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance.
And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge Do you think that Pandain is scum? No. You didnt read his post to see what he actually said (you misinterpreted it) What did I misinterpret? You have a reason to believe he is town? Eh a closer look at that post has some out of place things
How do these quotes not infer that I reread panduins post and then posted the questions I had about it?
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On September 13 2013 02:43 Sn0_Man wrote: Iunno, kush seems pretty lynchable to me (in general, not right now). If he doesn't start playing like persona 4 then we just lynch him ezpz. Give him time to get rolling tho. Considering how valuable to town he was in P4 I'm in no hurry to get him.
Thats like a large part of my thoughts on blubbdavid. Who wants to lynch Kush/Koshi D1? scum do lol. Okay I wanted to lynch Koshi D1 but he fucked up a Self-Aware miller claim day 1.
Where'd kush go anyways?
So, you are going to base all of kush's townplay off of one game he played really well in and hold him to that standard? That doesn't make sense. That game is an outlier for him.
@Everyone Kush is not unreadable in any way. He's hard to read, but he has scum tells that differ from his town game. He should not be vig shot. He should be lynched if his posting continues the way it does.
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One more thing. Vayne and I seem to be thinking along the same paths. That's a good sign. Grack has constantly been along my line of thinking. good sign.
As of now, I will be down for a blubb lynch and kush lynch.
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Final thing
This is a pure policy on raynp
If rayne EVER in game says he fake claims, we are lynching him on the spot. No questions asked. He heavily messed up the last game for town by his fakeclaim shenanigans (fakeclaiming 3 times apparently since the host said he never got shot).
MAKE SURE WE LYNCH RAYNP IF HE EVER FAKECLAIMS
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On September 13 2013 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm leaning scum tbh. Even though I hate rayn's claims with a passion its probably not unreasonable to say that they cause some amount of uncertainty to the scummers who would probably not mind doing without.
Although rayns reads this game are even worse than most of his other games (apparently thats even possible) so there is that. <3 Who's found scum in last couple of games and who's not? *Ego*
As I recall I found 2 scum in desert, one of them got derailed by you and your fucking mason claim with oats.
Then, in aperature, I caught a scum without reading. You didn't catch any. Game and match
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On September 13 2013 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care about attention on me. I play better and you can't mislynch me either way. ^^
So we can't mislynch you? That must mean you are a scum
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