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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 19:36 GMT
#3761
On September 22 2013 02:12 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Final Day 1 Votecount:

strongandbig(0): Koshi, Papa_Smurf, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Zealos, blubbdavid, raynpelikoneet

VayneAuthority(0): Papa_Smurf

WaveofShadow(0): kushm4sta

Grackaroni(0): WaveofShadow

kushm4sta(2): Papa_Smurf, Pandain, Old Partner, Papa_Smurf, Zealos

Pandain(0): Grackaroni

Old Partner(4): raynpelikoneet Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, blubbdavid, Umasi, raynpelikoneet, WaveofShadow

Koshi(0): blubbdavid

blubbdavid(5): VayneAuthority, Grackaroni, Sn0_man, Umasi, Papa_Smurf, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Koshi,Pandain

Zealos(4): blubbdavid, strongandbig, Grackaroni, blubbdavid, Pandain, Old Partner

raynpelikoneet(0): strongandbig

blubbdavid has been lynched!




This whole lack of hit notifications thing sucks o.O.

So we are left with Vayne sn0 grack.

Those are likely the scumteam + sk.

I gotta think of lylo scenarios and such to where we can win


problem here is that I am town so you are certainly missing something in your analysis. There is nothing that points to me being scum this game except for people constantly shouting it. The correct lynch today is pandain, there is no scenario in this game where he isn't scum as I've outlined.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 19:36 GMT
#3762
On September 22 2013 02:44 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Yeah. Sn0 has to be sk. Vayne has to be scum (otherwise his question about the rb makes no sense)

Ok so now it has to be down to grack and oats for the final scum.


also can you explain why my rb question makes sense if im scum? I already explained why I asked it.
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2013 22:11 GMT
#3763
##Vote: Sn0_Man
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 21 2013 23:19 GMT
#3764
On September 22 2013 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 22 2013 00:39 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 22 2013 00:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 22 2013 00:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 22 2013 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 22 2013 00:09 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 22 2013 00:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 23:53 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 21 2013 23:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
So SK is aiming for mafia and shot basically the only confirmed town?

uhuh.

By the only confirmed town you mean Debears or Umasi?

i mean debears.

Not everyone considered Debears confirmed town.

BUT YOU JUST CALLED HIM CONFIRMED TOWN.

Yeah so I'm not SK. SK is one of the people who didn't think Debears was town.

You make no sense and you should feel bad.

You still haven't answered how Rayn could still be SK in light of the claim + kills

Rayn got shot.

How is this hard to understand?

Also if rayn is town, we lynch you. So you should lynch rayn.

So i fakeclaimed before knowing i was shot? Makes sense how?

it doesnt matter, as long as there was 1 nk, you could claim that your protect worked.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 21 2013 23:20 GMT
#3765
Actually scum 100% shot umasi, and I think rayn withheld his shot.

No gg, No skill.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 23:22 GMT
#3766
you can't hold your shot as SK, im pretty sure.

anyways you should be more worried about the fact that everyone is just lynching a guy that isn't even here to defend himself...this is dumb.

vote pandain for justice
I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 21 2013 23:29 GMT
#3767
vote rayn for justice!
No gg, No skill.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 23:32 GMT
#3768
On September 22 2013 00:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
have you played mafia before grackaroni? mod confirmed SK coming back mafia alignment, meaning its a bulletproof role this game..I clearly explained it in my previous post. With that said, i don't think rayn is the best kill today, pandain is since he is part of the mafia team. better to leave 1 of each alive and make them 2nd guess the other. There is the chance of a framer with rayn being doctor so its the safest play. If he isn't he is currently an SK with no more protection; he's a sitting duck with a mafia roleblocker.

If any of this doesn't make sense then ask now.

##vote:pandain


this is why oats, unless you can persuade me why rayn would be better
I come in for the scraps
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 21 2013 23:42 GMT
#3769
I've already reasoned why Raynp isn't SK.

Scum would have rbed him and killed me, because then Pandain would be outed if mafia killed Raynp. The last thing mafia would want right now is raynp shooting the unknown mafia, so they wouldn't leave a SK Raynp unroleblocked. Raynp, as SK, would not have withheld his shot last night, seeing as he needs to find and kill the other mafia so he can win.

Also, if Raynp, as sk, lynched another town today he would essentially lose (3-2-1 before nks, 2-2-0 or 1-2-1 or 2-1-0 or 1-1-1). Only one of those scenarios are winnable for a SK at this point if the SK does not lynch scum).
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 21 2013 23:44 GMT
#3770
Also, a doctor in a game with 2kp a night fits well for balance in this game, especially with lack of hit notifications. It makes the doctor less powerful than a normal doctor.

4 blues, 1 sk, 1 survivor, 3 mafia.

This game would be heavily non-town favored without a doc
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 23:50 GMT
#3771
and that's why im not voting for rayn, I see that line of logic. however I don't see why you don't see that with a doctor added to the mix, the 3 scum is very likely to be RB/godfather/framer as a RB/godfather/goon in this setup would be incredibly weak.

both rayn or pandain would make a fine framer target, considering they were both prominent players in this game. Hence, pandain is mafia. I get that it isn't as obvious to you since I know I'm town but pandains play hasn't made sense this game and I hope you would see that...
I come in for the scraps
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 21 2013 23:56 GMT
#3772
Lol vayne you are so obviously full of shit. I've been your top pick for mafia all game long. Now all of a sudden you'd rather lynch Pandain, the guy who was checked as the same alignment with Rayn, who you believe is town, because obviously Pandain was framed.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 22 2013 00:00 GMT
#3773
new info = new reads

sue me kiddo.

If people would actually vote for you I would lynch you in a heartbeat, but I already tried yesterday and no dice.
I come in for the scraps
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 22 2013 00:06 GMT
#3774
On September 22 2013 09:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
new info = new reads

sue me kiddo.

If people would actually vote for you I would lynch you in a heartbeat, but I already tried yesterday and no dice.

I'll bite.
The new info was the same read on Pandain/Rayn

You are telling me that convinced you to vote Pandain over me?
You think Pandain is more likely mafia because a role we don't even know is in the game COULD have targeted one of those 2 players? What are the odds of that? they are definitely not in your favor.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 22 2013 00:20 GMT
#3775
+ doctor = + framer The odds are fine.

I guess you ignored the last line because that plays into not voting for you as well. If you think im just going to leave my vote uselessly at this point you are sadly mistaken.
I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 22 2013 10:30 GMT
#3776
I wish people would come and play this game...

Rayn is acting totally retarded the past like 2-3 days. Why as town would he not try and convince people to win the game?

Also, where the fuck is sn0?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 22 2013 10:31 GMT
#3777
On September 22 2013 08:42 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I've already reasoned why Raynp isn't SK.

Scum would have rbed him and killed me, because then Pandain would be outed if mafia killed Raynp. The last thing mafia would want right now is raynp shooting the unknown mafia, so they wouldn't leave a SK Raynp unroleblocked. Raynp, as SK, would not have withheld his shot last night, seeing as he needs to find and kill the other mafia so he can win.

Also, if Raynp, as sk, lynched another town today he would essentially lose (3-2-1 before nks, 2-2-0 or 1-2-1 or 2-1-0 or 1-1-1). Only one of those scenarios are winnable for a SK at this point if the SK does not lynch scum).

Scum dont know if rayn is the SK.
The thing for me is, both those shots are horrible for sk, Umasi or you.
So Im left with the conclusion that SK didnt shoot, because come on man, thats like the 2 least likely to be scum.
No gg, No skill.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
September 22 2013 11:56 GMT
#3778
Day 4 Votecount:

raynpeelikonet(1): Oatsmaster

VayneAuthority(0): raynpelikoneet, Pandain

Pandain(1): VayneAuthority

Sn0_Man(4): Grackaroni, Pandain, Papa_Smurf, raynpeelikonet

Sn0_Man is set to be lynched! Remember, voting is mandatory!
Next deadline:
Deadline date: Sunday, Sep 22 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2013 12:06 GMT
#3779
On September 22 2013 19:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 08:42 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I've already reasoned why Raynp isn't SK.

Scum would have rbed him and killed me, because then Pandain would be outed if mafia killed Raynp. The last thing mafia would want right now is raynp shooting the unknown mafia, so they wouldn't leave a SK Raynp unroleblocked. Raynp, as SK, would not have withheld his shot last night, seeing as he needs to find and kill the other mafia so he can win.

Also, if Raynp, as sk, lynched another town today he would essentially lose (3-2-1 before nks, 2-2-0 or 1-2-1 or 2-1-0 or 1-1-1). Only one of those scenarios are winnable for a SK at this point if the SK does not lynch scum).

Scum dont know if rayn is the SK.
The thing for me is, both those shots are horrible for sk, Umasi or you.
So Im left with the conclusion that SK didnt shoot, because come on man, thats like the 2 least likely to be scum.

WHo is scum and doesn't know if i am SK or not?
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 22 2013 12:09 GMT
#3780
On September 22 2013 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 19:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 22 2013 08:42 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I've already reasoned why Raynp isn't SK.

Scum would have rbed him and killed me, because then Pandain would be outed if mafia killed Raynp. The last thing mafia would want right now is raynp shooting the unknown mafia, so they wouldn't leave a SK Raynp unroleblocked. Raynp, as SK, would not have withheld his shot last night, seeing as he needs to find and kill the other mafia so he can win.

Also, if Raynp, as sk, lynched another town today he would essentially lose (3-2-1 before nks, 2-2-0 or 1-2-1 or 2-1-0 or 1-1-1). Only one of those scenarios are winnable for a SK at this point if the SK does not lynch scum).

Scum dont know if rayn is the SK.
The thing for me is, both those shots are horrible for sk, Umasi or you.
So Im left with the conclusion that SK didnt shoot, because come on man, thats like the 2 least likely to be scum.

WHo is scum and doesn't know if i am SK or not?

What the fuck are you talking about?
Im apparently the only one who thinks you are the SK so i guess everyone else is possible scum that doesnt know that you are the sk.

What do you think about the SK shot?
No gg, No skill.
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