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On September 16 2013 03:16 Old Partner wrote:contemplating whether I can write a convincing case on PS/DB. In theory, I'd like to be convinced myself by it as well. In practice, if I think I can write a sufficiently convincing one, even if I personally am not convinced I can just pretend to be. What are you up to?
Well do you think he is scum?
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On September 16 2013 03:32 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 02:24 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 01:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
also im trying to wrap my head around this night kill, WoS never really had any reads of his own looking through his filter. The last thing he says is i want to policy lynch kush but that's stupid.
Don't really know what's going on in this game tbh A really bad vigi shot or a set-up with SK + survivor. VA, your opinion on OP and Papa "The Red" Smurf? I think OP is honestly survivor, and I stand by the fact that it's a good lynch if we don't have any better reads. Sucks for him but what ya gonna do. PS is fighting with pretty much all my scumreads so he's either getting gangbanged or I just suck this game, which isn't the first time. while your here can you explain what you mean by WoS not being killed by scum? there's only one kill today. did they just not use their KP? lol
We might have a doc and we have a veteran.
I simply cannot believe WoS was killed by scum unless they have somebody that knew WoS was blue.
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Oh rayn already said that D:
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On September 16 2013 04:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 03:32 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 16 2013 02:24 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 01:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
also im trying to wrap my head around this night kill, WoS never really had any reads of his own looking through his filter. The last thing he says is i want to policy lynch kush but that's stupid.
Don't really know what's going on in this game tbh A really bad vigi shot or a set-up with SK + survivor. VA, your opinion on OP and Papa "The Red" Smurf? I think OP is honestly survivor, and I stand by the fact that it's a good lynch if we don't have any better reads. Sucks for him but what ya gonna do. PS is fighting with pretty much all my scumreads so he's either getting gangbanged or I just suck this game, which isn't the first time. while your here can you explain what you mean by WoS not being killed by scum? there's only one kill today. did they just not use their KP? lol We might have a doc and we have a veteran. I simply cannot believe WoS was killed by scum unless they have somebody that knew WoS was blue.
Also might have*
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On September 16 2013 03:16 Old Partner wrote:contemplating whether I can write a convincing case on PS/DB. In theory, I'd like to be convinced myself by it as well. In practice, if I think I can write a sufficiently convincing one, even if I personally am not convinced I can just pretend to be. What are you up to?
Dude, if you are survivor.
Start lynching scums. Because scum is not going to shoot a second survivor.
You have been useless for 48 hours since your claim while in those 48 hours you have been saying you will be useful.
**yawn**
#notimpressedbyBH
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^ and by that I don't mean they scum shot the first survivor and I know that because I am scum!
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On September 16 2013 04:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
this rayn guy is only using stuff that works to his advantage to try and get me convicted, its desperate at best. says im defending OP for some bullshit reason when kush/oats/koshi are also "defending" him and has townreads on them...dat bias
says lynching a survivor is horrible for town and gives more time for scum when I bring it up and then he jumps on lynching OP without a second thought, not even trying to do anything else.
Has extra information that he shouldn't have based on this convo.
how do you have rayn as town koshi, you are letting his retarded/useless = town meta confuse you.
Pretty sure most of us are safe for a while with OP/PS being lynched today.
So if he is trying to get you convicted he is just pressuring you for 2morrows.
Dnu why you are getting your panties in a bunch over this.
btw, you are not useful VA. Your initial reads you brag about are even proven wrong.
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On September 16 2013 04:12 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 04:08 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 03:16 Old Partner wrote:On September 16 2013 03:14 Koshi wrote:
wtf are you doing OP? contemplating whether I can write a convincing case on PS/DB. In theory, I'd like to be convinced myself by it as well. In practice, if I think I can write a sufficiently convincing one, even if I personally am not convinced I can just pretend to be. What are you up to? Dude, if you are survivor. Start lynching scums. Because scum is not going to shoot a second survivor. You have been useless for 48 hours since your claim while in those 48 hours you have been saying you will be useful. **yawn**
#notimpressedbyBH You clearly dont understand the purpose of a survivor. Obviously scum isn't going to shoot me, but I think my optimal play here isn't to lynch scum, but really to lynch anyone but myself. My goal isn't to find scum, it's to find someone to lynch and write a case on it that will either A) unite the various people who aren't voting for me but are interested in lynching different people or B) get people voting me to unvote me. Now, if it turns out I find scum while I do this, that's fine. Ostensibly, any case I write is in theory trying to convince you that the target is scum. If you think my goal for today is "lynch scum" though you are sorely mistaken.
OK THEN FIND A TOWNIE THAT YOU CAN CONVINCE US THAT IS 100% SCUM.
There seriously is no other option.
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On September 16 2013 04:14 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 04:13 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 04:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
this rayn guy is only using stuff that works to his advantage to try and get me convicted, its desperate at best. says im defending OP for some bullshit reason when kush/oats/koshi are also "defending" him and has townreads on them...dat bias
says lynching a survivor is horrible for town and gives more time for scum when I bring it up and then he jumps on lynching OP without a second thought, not even trying to do anything else.
Has extra information that he shouldn't have based on this convo.
how do you have rayn as town koshi, you are letting his retarded/useless = town meta confuse you. Pretty sure most of us are safe for a while with OP/PS being lynched today. So if he is trying to get you convicted he is just pressuring you for 2morrows. Dnu why you are getting your panties in a bunch over this. btw, you are not useful VA. Your initial reads you brag about are even proven wrong. quote where I bragged about my initial reads and where they were proven wrong, ty
yay! I will.
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On September 16 2013 04:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
You ended up voting for the same person as me at the end of day 1 and you are just pot calling the kettle black and look as pathetic and desperate as rayn. It's kinda sad the play in both of you this game, I expect better unless you guys are scum.
yes I know. Blubb was good lynch. OP would have been better though.
And seems like you didn't brag too much about your early reads. So strange. I remember more. D:
But still. rayn is not doing anything wrong.
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On September 16 2013 04:17 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 04:15 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 04:12 Old Partner wrote:On September 16 2013 04:08 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 03:16 Old Partner wrote:On September 16 2013 03:14 Koshi wrote:
wtf are you doing OP? contemplating whether I can write a convincing case on PS/DB. In theory, I'd like to be convinced myself by it as well. In practice, if I think I can write a sufficiently convincing one, even if I personally am not convinced I can just pretend to be. What are you up to? Dude, if you are survivor. Start lynching scums. Because scum is not going to shoot a second survivor. You have been useless for 48 hours since your claim while in those 48 hours you have been saying you will be useful. **yawn**
#notimpressedbyBH You clearly dont understand the purpose of a survivor. Obviously scum isn't going to shoot me, but I think my optimal play here isn't to lynch scum, but really to lynch anyone but myself. My goal isn't to find scum, it's to find someone to lynch and write a case on it that will either A) unite the various people who aren't voting for me but are interested in lynching different people or B) get people voting me to unvote me. Now, if it turns out I find scum while I do this, that's fine. Ostensibly, any case I write is in theory trying to convince you that the target is scum. If you think my goal for today is "lynch scum" though you are sorely mistaken. OK THEN FIND A TOWNIE THAT YOU CAN CONVINCE US THAT IS 100% SCUM. There seriously is no other option. you mean find a player I can convince you that is 100% scum, but yes, a townie would suffice.
gogogo!
But still please do a case on PS!
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On September 16 2013 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
could just be dumb town rayn though and you are the scum koshi? only time will tell
/flex
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VA says I am playing good. yay!
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On September 16 2013 05:31 strongandbig wrote:
here's something people can respond to while i keep reading.
why are we totally ignoring zealos, despite him being the Wagon of Justice yesterday? No one has said a single thing that convinces me away from my interpretation of the differences between how he's played this game and how he played in those other two town games i posted links to. He hasn't engaged with this game at all except to poke at me occasionally. I'm pretty mystified by how no one has even mentioned him since yesterday. I still think he's scum.
It's 50/50 unless you find a meta case or something.
He is being a annoying. But is he doing it as scum or as town?
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On September 16 2013 05:37 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:33 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 05:31 strongandbig wrote:
here's something people can respond to while i keep reading.
why are we totally ignoring zealos, despite him being the Wagon of Justice yesterday? No one has said a single thing that convinces me away from my interpretation of the differences between how he's played this game and how he played in those other two town games i posted links to. He hasn't engaged with this game at all except to poke at me occasionally. I'm pretty mystified by how no one has even mentioned him since yesterday. I still think he's scum. It's 50/50 unless you find a meta case or something. He is being a annoying. But is he doing it as scum or as town? i made a meta case
ohyeah. didn't liked that one.
I don't know about Zealos. I don't think he is scum. More likely blue town.
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On September 16 2013 05:38 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:28 strongandbig wrote:On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote:
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!
For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT
If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either
1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor
neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.
And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack okay actually i don't like that bh leaves out the possibility that he's SK who got a fake survivor claim from the hosts. that's the obviously more likely possibility than the two he outlines but he tries to gloss over it without addressing it. man the point of the thing isn't that it somehow exonerates me, the point of that post is that people who say I made up my role PM are like super double dumb.
You are so boring.
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On September 16 2013 05:41 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:39 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 05:38 Old Partner wrote:On September 16 2013 05:28 strongandbig wrote:On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote:
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!
For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT
If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either
1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor
neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.
And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack okay actually i don't like that bh leaves out the possibility that he's SK who got a fake survivor claim from the hosts. that's the obviously more likely possibility than the two he outlines but he tries to gloss over it without addressing it. man the point of the thing isn't that it somehow exonerates me, the point of that post is that people who say I made up my role PM are like super double dumb. You are so boring. yeah, i know, none of that that i've posted gives anyone any reason to unvote me ;_; I'll think of something, okay! >.>
I am still bored.
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On September 16 2013 05:53 strongandbig wrote:man i still want to lynch rayne. like, this doesn't strike me as a townie mindset: + Show Spoiler +On September 16 2013 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not need to make a case on anyone, i want to lynch OP today.
Isn't it annoying when a townie will not tell you what makes you scum? You probably need to kill me next night. On September 16 2013 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 04:40 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Btw I would love to know how I'm a main candidate without a single fucking real case on me.
The only case that has been presented is a kush case that was 1) wrong and 2) I debunked. tbh i do not understand that either. People who are voting for you should make a case. kush has a case but i do not think that's good and you have given an acceptable defence to it. I do not however understand why should i make a case on someone i do not even want to lynch today? if you think someone is scum, you should explain why... otherwise what if you die? what if your other case is wrong? and more importantly, it gives people more stances that they can use to read you. it's just, like, trying to get rayn lynched is going to take so much effort, and i have no idea if i'll gain any traction at all... i'm honestly a little less certain than I was yesterday, because rayn doesn't feel like he's been as aggressively and retardedly confrontational as I expect scum-him to be. but I really don't see how you can have 16 pages of filter as town and have your only real cases/pushes be the terrible tunnel on me that was based on nitpicking and misconstruing my posts, and now his push on OP that is entirely "there can't be two survivors". it's like, he if anyone would do all that yelling and bad arguing to try to get me mislynched as scum... but would he really? Can people talk to me here about rayn? + Show Spoiler +
I feel like zealos is obviscum though and would rather lynch him for the moment.
i need to reread bh's filter post-claim and see how I feel about his lynch. I could maybe get down with it, though, in large part because of the breadcrumb thing
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Lynching rayn is bad. Just play the game by rayn his rules and he will find the scummers eventually. Rayn was completely wrong about the scummers in his first 20 pages of filter in Persona. Then he got it right.
There is nothing scummy about what rayn is doing. You might dislike that he is hunting you, but at least he is hunting. You are also not getting lynched so I don't really see why you are being so annoyed.
btw, if there weren't people like rayn then you would go into lylo with a LOT LESS information. rayn hunts active posters in his games. Unlike others.
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On September 16 2013 06:15 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 06:10 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 05:53 strongandbig wrote:man i still want to lynch rayne. like, this doesn't strike me as a townie mindset: + Show Spoiler +On September 16 2013 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not need to make a case on anyone, i want to lynch OP today.
Isn't it annoying when a townie will not tell you what makes you scum? You probably need to kill me next night. On September 16 2013 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 04:40 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Btw I would love to know how I'm a main candidate without a single fucking real case on me.
The only case that has been presented is a kush case that was 1) wrong and 2) I debunked. tbh i do not understand that either. People who are voting for you should make a case. kush has a case but i do not think that's good and you have given an acceptable defence to it. I do not however understand why should i make a case on someone i do not even want to lynch today? if you think someone is scum, you should explain why... otherwise what if you die? what if your other case is wrong? and more importantly, it gives people more stances that they can use to read you. it's just, like, trying to get rayn lynched is going to take so much effort, and i have no idea if i'll gain any traction at all... i'm honestly a little less certain than I was yesterday, because rayn doesn't feel like he's been as aggressively and retardedly confrontational as I expect scum-him to be. but I really don't see how you can have 16 pages of filter as town and have your only real cases/pushes be the terrible tunnel on me that was based on nitpicking and misconstruing my posts, and now his push on OP that is entirely "there can't be two survivors". it's like, he if anyone would do all that yelling and bad arguing to try to get me mislynched as scum... but would he really? Can people talk to me here about rayn? + Show Spoiler +
I feel like zealos is obviscum though and would rather lynch him for the moment.
i need to reread bh's filter post-claim and see how I feel about his lynch. I could maybe get down with it, though, in large part because of the breadcrumb thing
. Lynching rayn is bad. Just play the game by rayn his rules and he will find the scummers eventually. Rayn was completely wrong about the scummers in his first 20 pages of filter in Persona. Then he got it right. There is nothing scummy about what rayn is doing. You might dislike that he is hunting you, but at least he is hunting. You are also not getting lynched so I don't really see why you are being so annoyed. btw, if there weren't people like rayn then you would go into lylo with a LOT LESS information. rayn hunts active posters in his games. Unlike others. i disagree. rayn makes the thread too long and hard to re-read and analyze in-depth. regardless of his alignment i think having him in a game hurts town.
Yeah totally.
Look at those first 2 days in aperture.
Rayn didn't say shit and town really won the game there.
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