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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 12 2013 12:07 GMT
#281
@blubbdavid
1) Are you telling me that SnB said VA is scum?
2) The reason for my vote on SnB was not because those 2 little thingies you quoted. The reason why it is still on SnB is because.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 12:10 GMT
#282
On September 12 2013 21:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 18:56 Koshi wrote:
He pushes and advocates good and transparant posting/scumhunting.

^ About OP post.

Uhh, we just talked about OP's post and his questions and you agreed with me they look bad. Are you now disagreeing again? Why?
Do you think there is something useful he says in his post? If there is, can you point out what that is.

Zealos: Pick two things that you find to be most important atm in this game and comment on them please.
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 12 2013 12:13 GMT
#283
On September 12 2013 21:07 Koshi wrote:
@blubbdavid
1) Are you telling me that SnB said VA is scum?
2) The reason for my vote on SnB was not because those 2 little thingies you quoted. The reason why it is still on SnB is because.

Oh looks like I confused him with papa. sry for that. But I still find it suspicious that you press on SnB so much because of because.
The reason why it is still on SnB is because.

What do you think about VA.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 12 2013 12:20 GMT
#284
On September 12 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:04 Koshi wrote:
On September 12 2013 18:56 Koshi wrote:
He pushes and advocates good and transparant posting/scumhunting.

^ About OP post.

Uhh, we just talked about OP's post and his questions and you agreed with me they look bad. Are you now disagreeing again? Why?
Do you think there is something useful he says in his post? If there is, can you point out what that is.

What the fuck? I LIKE OP HIS POSTS! Read my first answer to you again...
I had a good night of sleep.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
September 12 2013 12:20 GMT
#285
On September 12 2013 21:05 blubbdavid wrote:
Forgot to add:
##Vote: Koshi
And I will also look into Grack, don't like his posting.


What specifically about Grack's posting has stood out to you?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 12 2013 12:20 GMT
#286
On September 12 2013 21:13 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:07 Koshi wrote:
@blubbdavid
1) Are you telling me that SnB said VA is scum?
2) The reason for my vote on SnB was not because those 2 little thingies you quoted. The reason why it is still on SnB is because.

Oh looks like I confused him with papa. sry for that. But I still find it suspicious that you press on SnB so much because of because.
Show nested quote +
The reason why it is still on SnB is because.

What do you think about VA.

I am not lynching VA first day. Unless crazy happens.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 12 2013 12:25 GMT
#287
Or better said. Hunting VA.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 12:26 GMT
#288
On September 12 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:04 Koshi wrote:
On September 12 2013 18:56 Koshi wrote:
He pushes and advocates good and transparant posting/scumhunting.

^ About OP post.

Uhh, we just talked about OP's post and his questions and you agreed with me they look bad. Are you now disagreeing again? Why?
Do you think there is something useful he says in his post? If there is, can you point out what that is.

What the fuck? I LIKE OP HIS POSTS! Read my first answer to you again...

OH right you did. You also said "now his questions seem bad", i got confused.
Anyways, is there anything else in OP's posts that is good besides the questions?
I mean, there are like what.. 500 other words.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 12 2013 12:27 GMT
#289
I was gonna say that Koshi was the most useless filler post material ever, but I quite like how he posts towards the end of the day.
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 12 2013 12:30 GMT
#290
On September 12 2013 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:04 Koshi wrote:
On September 12 2013 18:56 Koshi wrote:
He pushes and advocates good and transparant posting/scumhunting.

^ About OP post.

Uhh, we just talked about OP's post and his questions and you agreed with me they look bad. Are you now disagreeing again? Why?
Do you think there is something useful he says in his post? If there is, can you point out what that is.

What the fuck? I LIKE OP HIS POSTS! Read my first answer to you again...

OH right you did. You also said "now his questions seem bad", i got confused.
Anyways, is there anything else in OP's posts that is good besides the questions?
I mean, there are like what.. 500 other words.

I meant only the first ones that he asked to PS.

He is reading the thread and keeping notes in those spoilers of him. That is good. Transparant. No secrets. Makes it possible for us to follow a clear thoughtprocess. (If he keeps it up, which I think he will!)
I had a good night of sleep.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 12 2013 12:31 GMT
#291
Atm I have three scumreads:
Koshi, Grack and Kush

Koshi for aforementioned reasons.
Kush for his valuable contributions.
And Grack:
On September 12 2013 14:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote:
I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to fully make my thoughts fully comprehensible and eloquent, instead I will just get them written down. College struggles.

Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them.

VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time.
GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction)


I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move.
Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread.

Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got.




Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says.

I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though.

Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen.

I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos.

1Pandain came into the thread with a long constructed post but he didn't analyze shit.
2He gave out some town reads that agreed with town sentiment.
3His reasoning for S&B being town is absolute bull. (S&B saw Debears post in a newbie game currently in signups, HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO S&B GOING OUTSIDE THE GAME AND LOOKING FOR MAFIA??)
4He writes to a whole lot of nothing about OP (why did you even include that if you've made no conclusion off of it?
5And to top it off he then says that me and kush are BAD players so we are the top lynch choices
6Now when I called him out on him being more interested in lynching people for being bad than scum he says that we should focus on lurkers.
I don't believe that Pandain has any interest in hunting scum.
##Vote: Pandain

I disagree here with points 1,3,4,5
1. wut
3. have you already made out of thread investigation, Grack?
4. wut
5. you two should be lynched because of scum behaviour, not because you are bad

On September 12 2013 16:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 15:50 Papa_Smurf wrote:
He didn't call you and kush out as lynch targets for being bad (which was the primary point of your scumread on him).

When he said "bad read" about you it meant "scum read" pretty obviously by how he described your posting.

Then kush is playing scummy in itself (although that's normal for him as town and scum). "Posting like shit" doesn't mean bad (unless he has a town read on kush). It means he's playing anti-town

At least that's what I discerned.

I thought that at first glance, but I have a hard time believing that when he ends his read on me with, I'm not sure if he's scum. What I read out of that post is that he is most interested in policy lynching the weaker players.

Lets get real, Kush playing anti-town is nothing new from him. He does it as both alignments. If he doesn't start contributing, we vig him and we move on. Lynches should be used on players we can actually analyze.


I've only been scum one time and I was called out immediately by syllogism for wanting to policy lynch someone I called a weaker player. I see pandain displaying similar behavior.

Aside from that i think that scum generally come in the middle of the day with long constructed posts such as these, this one in particular gave very little analysis. After that he peaced out. WoS made a post like this as well but it was clear to me that he was actually trying to analyze my behavior.

Defending your scum comrade much, leaving him to the vig, if there is one?
On September 12 2013 16:49 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 16:28 Koshi wrote:
I can wait a bit on the other Europeans to wake up.

SnB can be town obviously. But meh. Could lynch.
Pandain pretty bad entry.

OP pretty cool guy. Not going to lynch.

Hey Koshi, since you're here what do you think of my case on Pandain? Can you expand upon your read beyond bad entrance.

Hey scumrade, since you're here and in the scum QT anyway, why don't we press together against Pandain? Can you help me find more stuff so that it looks legit.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 12 2013 12:33 GMT
#292
My internet is busted, I am useing my neighbors, but it is going in and out so Im not sure how long I will be around or how active Ill be until morning.
Try TL Mafia!!!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 12:35 GMT
#293
Actually Grackaroni might be a good lynch too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 12:38 GMT
#294
Grackaroni you need to elaborate on this:
Pandain gave out some town reads that agreed with town sentiment.
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 12 2013 12:39 GMT
#295
On September 12 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:13 blubbdavid wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:07 Koshi wrote:
@blubbdavid
1) Are you telling me that SnB said VA is scum?
2) The reason for my vote on SnB was not because those 2 little thingies you quoted. The reason why it is still on SnB is because.

Oh looks like I confused him with papa. sry for that. But I still find it suspicious that you press on SnB so much because of because.
The reason why it is still on SnB is because.

What do you think about VA.

I am not lynching VA first day. Unless crazy happens.

Fair enough.
May I have your opinion on Grack?
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 12 2013 12:45 GMT
#296
On September 12 2013 21:39 blubbdavid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:13 blubbdavid wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:07 Koshi wrote:
@blubbdavid
1) Are you telling me that SnB said VA is scum?
2) The reason for my vote on SnB was not because those 2 little thingies you quoted. The reason why it is still on SnB is because.

Oh looks like I confused him with papa. sry for that. But I still find it suspicious that you press on SnB so much because of because.
The reason why it is still on SnB is because.

What do you think about VA.

I am not lynching VA first day. Unless crazy happens.

Fair enough.
May I have your opinion on Grack?

We follow the same line of thought. So I am happy with him. His post directed towards WoS was very good, knowing that he just came off a conversation with VA and decided that wasn't his best target to pursue.

Grack is on my do not lynch list.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 13:21 GMT
#297
On September 12 2013 21:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:39 blubbdavid wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:13 blubbdavid wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:07 Koshi wrote:
@blubbdavid
1) Are you telling me that SnB said VA is scum?
2) The reason for my vote on SnB was not because those 2 little thingies you quoted. The reason why it is still on SnB is because.

Oh looks like I confused him with papa. sry for that. But I still find it suspicious that you press on SnB so much because of because.
The reason why it is still on SnB is because.

What do you think about VA.

I am not lynching VA first day. Unless crazy happens.

Fair enough.
May I have your opinion on Grack?

(1) We follow the same line of thought. So I am happy with him. (2) His post directed towards WoS was very good, knowing that he just came off a conversation with VA and decided that wasn't his best target to pursue.

Grack is on my do not lynch list.

1) Is there more than his read on Pandain and the WoS thing?
2) Could you elaborate more on why the post directed to WoS is very good. After re-reading the whole SnB--VA argument and all the players involved in it Grackaroni comes out definitely looking the worst and WoS the best.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 13:22 GMT
#298
EBWOP: Also GK looks really good based on that.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 12 2013 13:26 GMT
#299
1) I know I was liking grack yesterday. I could look up again why if that helps you. Probably also because he didn't jump on SnB but jumped on VA instead.
2) You think WoS his case on Grack was strengthened after Grack defended himself? imo he destroyed WoS his case.

rayn, what didn't you like about grack his defense after WoS attacked him?
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 12 2013 13:39 GMT
#300
On September 12 2013 22:26 Koshi wrote:
1) I know I was liking grack yesterday. I could look up again why if that helps you. Probably also because he didn't jump on SnB but jumped on VA instead.
2) You think WoS his case on Grack was strengthened after Grack defended himself? imo he destroyed WoS his case.

rayn, what didn't you like about grack his defense after WoS attacked him?

2) No he did not. WoS had two points.
- First one, Grack's answer is "That could be the case here".
- Second one, doesn't prove WoS is wrong and Grack is right.

WoS i think is focusing on wrong things on Grack imo. GK has the right approach. Grack says one thing, then he says something that makes the first thing invalid, and this goes on and on.

Here:
In all seriousness, you need to explain why you are confident SnB is town already this early in the game. Can you give me some reasoning?

I never put much stock in my day1 reads, especially this early, so for somebody to come into the thread already certain about S&B's alignment seems scummy to me.

If you've got a strong town read on day1 you should defend him. It's the fact that Vayne had a strong town read in the first place at that point in the game that is scummy.I saw nothing that gave me a strong town read on you which gives me the impression he is bullshitting.

It's becoming more and more clear to me that Vayne is a very different player than myself so I will take that into consideration.

He argues for 2 hours about someone having a different playstyle than he does. Also Vayne explained his read.
-"vayne is scummy for having a strong read on someone"
-"i don't put much stock on early reads"
-"so grack, are people scummy for having strong reads early on?"
-"no, actually vayne is not scummy, he just plays differently than i do"

No shit Sherlock?
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