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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 13 2013 23:08 GMT
#1359
On September 14 2013 08:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Vayne why do you have so many scumreads this game?
Also did you ever explained that experiment in Persona?


no I didn't but me and sn0_man talked about it briefly earlier in this game. I was just OMGUSing anyone that went after me since your job as town is just to live and I know scum like to target me as a mislynch.

lots of scummy people this game, is there a point to that question? I could direct you to lots of games where I have tons of scumreads. You would know from nuclear that I pretty much suspected everybody to some degree. Towns like this drive me insane.

Oki. The point was that this game is different than your Persona/Titanic game. More hard reads coming from you on town/scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 00:18 GMT
#1389
If rayn is scum. Scum rayn would be "handling" BH. Which he is doing +-
Just give BH a chance to give his thoughts in the next 70 hours. There is really no rush.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 00:26 GMT
#1393
On September 14 2013 09:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 09:18 Koshi wrote:
If rayn is scum. Scum rayn would be "handling" BH. Which he is doing +-
Just give BH a chance to give his thoughts in the next 70 hours. There is really no rush.

No, he needs to do shit on N1 so we don't waste a lynch on him on D2.
If he does not do shit vig him N1.

3rd vig shot you called.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 00:38 GMT
#1400
On September 14 2013 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 09:26 Koshi wrote:
On September 14 2013 09:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 14 2013 09:18 Koshi wrote:
If rayn is scum. Scum rayn would be "handling" BH. Which he is doing +-
Just give BH a chance to give his thoughts in the next 70 hours. There is really no rush.

No, he needs to do shit on N1 so we don't waste a lynch on him on D2.
If he does not do shit vig him N1.

3rd vig shot you called.

yeah i called vig on BH the third time. What's your point?

Oh. I thought it were 3 different people. But seems like it was indeed 2 times BH and 1 time Mr Snowman. or maybe that was BH as well.

The only problem I have with BH is that he knew that we were allowed to post role PMs and then probably faked not knowing. Like how is it possible that BH posts his role PM without checking that? Most games on TL forbid posting your role PM, so I can't believe BH didn't check this before posting his role.

But that is probably not a good reason for thinking he is scum :D.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 00:41 GMT
#1403
Yeah BH might be scum. The entire thing looks staged. Such an OP role for scum to use as well. Survivor that can never be shot at night.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 00:42 GMT
#1404
But day 2 will be so cool.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 00:43 GMT
#1405
Question to all:

Did you know that you could post your role PM?

Please answer!

Thank you!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 01:04 GMT
#1411
On September 14 2013 09:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 09:43 Koshi wrote:
Question to all:

Did you know that you could post your role PM?

Please answer!

Thank you!

no, I expected BH to be modkilled. You made an interesting point about BH asking if he could post his role PM. maybe he thought he could and then saw people expecting him to modkill and second guessed himself. I don't really see any sort of scum motivation for not knowing whether he could post it or not.

It's more about the fact that scum knew that it was allowed because they got fake role pms in their QT from hosts. I remember them being provided in Nuclear as well. So scum BH knew he was able to post roles.

If he was really survivor/town he would have assumed that it was not ok to post roles unless he actually read the rules and knew it was allowed. But in that case he wouldn't have to ask the hosts if it was allowed.

It is unbelievable/almost impossible that BH posted his role PM without checking if it was allowed. Nobody assumes that posting roles is allowed.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 01:12 GMT
#1413
I got time to spare. I can do both!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 02:24 GMT
#1426
I am feeling scummers are doing #bigplays

Off to bed now
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 12:41 GMT
#1522
k I am back alive.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 12:49 GMT
#1525
Oats, you believe the OP survivor claim?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 12:51 GMT
#1527
Hmm, there must be something in the vote patterns I think.
So many things happened. But I think I better put down all possibilities because I have no clue on what really happened.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 12:52 GMT
#1528
On September 14 2013 21:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
yup.
What makes you disbelieve it?

The part where he posted his role PM without being sure it was allowed.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 13:02 GMT
#1529
Also the part where he votes Zealos and not bubble to save himself.
Look at it.

Why the fuck does he vote Zealos and not bubble?

On September 14 2013 06:38 ShiaoPi wrote:
Day 1 Votecount:

strongandbig(0): Koshi, Papa_Smurf, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Zealos, blubbdavid, raynpelikoneet

VayneAuthority(0): Papa_Smurf

WaveofShadow(0): kushm4sta

Grackaroni(0): WaveofShadow

kushm4sta(4): Papa_Smurf, Pandain, Old Partner, Papa_Smurf, Zealos

Pandain(0): Grackaroni

Old Partner(6): raynpelikoneet Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, blubbdavid, Umasi, raynpelikoneet, WaveofShadow

Koshi(0): blubbdavid

blubbdavid(4): VayneAuthority, Grackaroni, Sn0_man, Umasi, Papa_Smurf, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Koshi

Zealos(1): blubbdavid, strongandbig

raynpelikoneet(0): strongandbig

Currently Old Partner is set to be lynched! Remember, voting is mandatory!


Next deadline:
Deadline date: Friday, Sep 13 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)



There is 1 vote on Zealos and 4 on blubb.

3 guys go to Zealos:
that means that it is:
OP: 3 votes
Zealos: 4 votes
blubb: 4 votes

This means that OP is NOT getting lynched so he doesn't need to claim. So it is safe to say he didn't see the 1 or 2 votes yet that happened 1 minute before he posted his vote change BUT that would mean this:
OP: 5 votes
Zealos: 2 votes
blubb: 4 votes

OR
OP: 4 votes
Zealos: 3 votes
blubb: 4 votes

It doesn't matter which scenario because blubb would always have been the better choice because he was a stable on 4 votes.


Mistakes were made and I don't understand why. Because blubb flipped town...

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 13:04 GMT
#1530
tldr: OP should always have switched to blubb and not to Zealos.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 13:15 GMT
#1531
But I wasn't here during the deadline.
Also, nobody did ##vote Zealos in the thread.

Everybody was yelling vote Zealos though...

Killers of OP:
Umasi, raynpelikoneet, WaveofShadow
Savers of OP:
Grackaroni, blubbdavid, Pandain

Somebody that thinks really cool and knew that Zealos would be saved or was afraid that there was something suspicious on the Zealos wagon (nobody goes for Zealos in such an hectic end and when it actually works and 4 people vote Zealos he changes to blubb for no reason + gives no reason immediately after):
Pandain
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 13:17 GMT
#1532
Somebody help me if there is something there.
Maybe we won't find scum immediately but there must be something?

Or were scummers not the indecisive ones?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 13:24 GMT
#1534
conspiracy theory:

OP is scum
Umasi, raynpelikoneet, WaveofShadow are town
Pandain, Grackaroni, SnB are scum (pushers of Zealos lynch)
Blubb is town and switching votes to him would look REALLY bad.
Zealos is scum and got bussed to save BH
______________________________________________

Problem with this theory:
scummers showed some serious face.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 13:27 GMT
#1535
Ah no. Pandain & SnB were pushing the Zealos lynch.
Grack is a poor bystander that trusted Pandain.



OP, SnB, Pandain, Zealos
I had a good night of sleep.
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