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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 29 2013 23:50 GMT
#606
On August 30 2013 08:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 08:44 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:31 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:29 marvellosity wrote:
Hapa has seemed fine to me, the only thing I noticed so far is that he's seemed somewhat more snippy than usual, which is why I asked him about how he felt about the game. Not entirely sure what I make of it but meh

Bugs me that yamato is suspicious of Hapa for being able to read me better than yamato can. It's just dumb on so many levels

Are you even reading my posts?


That's basically half the reason you're suspicious of me no?

You know I've played a ton of games with marv. While I can articulate my methods of reading him in one way or another, the bottom-line is that a majority of me reading marv is completely on gut. There are just certain posts by him that I get strong town/scum vibes from, mostly because we have such a history together.

In this game, there's just something about the way he's responding to the pressure here that makes me feel he's town. So back to the "holier than thou" thing with scum-marv, he tends to put himself above all the arguments, and either use it as an OMGUS or completely dismiss them at hand.

In this game, he's getting emotionally caught up in them, which I consider a town-tell.

Is he really, though?

It seems like he wants to use these back-and-forth exchanges more as an avenue to shit on my play and my reads than to actually get anything useful out of it.

If I am right about him, there is plenty of motivation for scum-Marv to want to discredit me when town-Marv is usually more cooperative even when I am tunneling him, in the recent past. Why the change this game in his response, and his overall attitude as compared to his recent play?


TBH, this sounds like Persona 2 all over again.

I'm better than I was then. It won't get that far.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 29 2013 23:51 GMT
#609
On August 30 2013 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
Why have you not answered my question twice now

Because I'm done arguing with you.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 29 2013 23:55 GMT
#615
On August 30 2013 08:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Stop arguing with marv and argue with me for a second.

What parts of my explanations are inadequate?

You're fine.

Scum Hapa would have folded his cards by now if I was really right
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 29 2013 23:59 GMT
#617
On August 30 2013 08:58 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 08:44 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:31 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:29 marvellosity wrote:
Hapa has seemed fine to me, the only thing I noticed so far is that he's seemed somewhat more snippy than usual, which is why I asked him about how he felt about the game. Not entirely sure what I make of it but meh

Bugs me that yamato is suspicious of Hapa for being able to read me better than yamato can. It's just dumb on so many levels

Are you even reading my posts?


That's basically half the reason you're suspicious of me no?

You know I've played a ton of games with marv. While I can articulate my methods of reading him in one way or another, the bottom-line is that a majority of me reading marv is completely on gut. There are just certain posts by him that I get strong town/scum vibes from, mostly because we have such a history together.

In this game, there's just something about the way he's responding to the pressure here that makes me feel he's town. So back to the "holier than thou" thing with scum-marv, he tends to put himself above all the arguments, and either use it as an OMGUS or completely dismiss them at hand.

In this game, he's getting emotionally caught up in them, which I consider a town-tell.

Is he really, though?

It seems like he wants to use these back-and-forth exchanges more as an avenue to shit on my play and my reads than to actually get anything useful out of it.

If I am right about him, there is plenty of motivation for scum-Marv to want to discredit me when town-Marv is usually more cooperative even when I am tunneling him, in the recent past. Why the change this game in his response, and his overall attitude as compared to his recent play?


As yamato is ignoring me, I'm just gonna point this out to the thread. Unless my memory serves me incorrectly, the last time yamato tunnelled me was 6 months ago in an abortion of a game. So he's painting my reactions as scummy when compared to basically totally fictitious recent games that don't exist.

me no gusta.

You mean I really haven't called you scum since then?

idk, seems off. I used to do it every game
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 00:04 GMT
#625
On August 30 2013 09:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 08:59 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:58 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:44 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:31 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 08:29 marvellosity wrote:
Hapa has seemed fine to me, the only thing I noticed so far is that he's seemed somewhat more snippy than usual, which is why I asked him about how he felt about the game. Not entirely sure what I make of it but meh

Bugs me that yamato is suspicious of Hapa for being able to read me better than yamato can. It's just dumb on so many levels

Are you even reading my posts?


That's basically half the reason you're suspicious of me no?

You know I've played a ton of games with marv. While I can articulate my methods of reading him in one way or another, the bottom-line is that a majority of me reading marv is completely on gut. There are just certain posts by him that I get strong town/scum vibes from, mostly because we have such a history together.

In this game, there's just something about the way he's responding to the pressure here that makes me feel he's town. So back to the "holier than thou" thing with scum-marv, he tends to put himself above all the arguments, and either use it as an OMGUS or completely dismiss them at hand.

In this game, he's getting emotionally caught up in them, which I consider a town-tell.

Is he really, though?

It seems like he wants to use these back-and-forth exchanges more as an avenue to shit on my play and my reads than to actually get anything useful out of it.

If I am right about him, there is plenty of motivation for scum-Marv to want to discredit me when town-Marv is usually more cooperative even when I am tunneling him, in the recent past. Why the change this game in his response, and his overall attitude as compared to his recent play?


As yamato is ignoring me, I'm just gonna point this out to the thread. Unless my memory serves me incorrectly, the last time yamato tunnelled me was 6 months ago in an abortion of a game. So he's painting my reactions as scummy when compared to basically totally fictitious recent games that don't exist.

me no gusta.

You mean I really haven't called you scum since then?

idk, seems off. I used to do it every game


Marv is cooperative as town getting tunneled?

wat

I guess I just have this feeling of Marv NOT being a dick to me in the past few games I've played with him.

Turns out, it's because I haven't called him mafia, LOL.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 00:07 GMT
#627
okay you guys are town I'll fuck off and you can solve the game for me.

deal?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 00:09 GMT
#630
On August 30 2013 09:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 09:07 yamato77 wrote:
okay you guys are town I'll fuck off and you can solve the game for me.

deal?


If I get shot tonight, this town goes to hell unless you put some effort into this.

if you get shot, I will play

you're better at reading these unreadables than me

I'll read syl/hopeless and post thoughts just for fun, but honestly who the fuck knows with those 2
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 12:22 GMT
#743
On August 30 2013 20:55 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, this looks like a pretty bad case of blowing something small out of all proportion.

Unfortunately that's just Rayn's modus operandi

I think he's town tho, despite his ridiculous tunnel. His read of Oats is flat out wrong, however. Looks like we can agree on something.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 12:29 GMT
#747
On August 30 2013 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can someone look at what i asked Tutan about his question to Hopeless?
I did not understand anything he said and how that was relevant to my question.

Am i just being stupid and not able to understand what people say?

That is usually the problem
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 13:04 GMT
#750
I'm not thrilled with a Syl lynch. I've never seen him post his much, ever. Something tells me he wouldn't pick his scum game to start tryharding.

Hopeless I still have yet to read, but honestly FT is not a terrible lynch.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 13:16 GMT
#755
On August 30 2013 22:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 22:04 yamato77 wrote:
I'm not thrilled with a Syl lynch. I've never seen him post his much, ever. Something tells me he wouldn't pick his scum game to start tryharding.

Hopeless I still have yet to read, but honestly FT is not a terrible lynch.


Do it please.

FT isn't a terrible lynch in that we're not losing anything by killing him and he might well be mafia, but it's terribly, terribly coinflippy.

blegh

Most of his filter is arguing about his read on TK which is based on TK's vote and unvote at the start of the game. Is he scum trying to fabricate a read out of something that I find completely meaningless or just a horribly misguided townie?

There's a few places in his filter where I go "well that seems reasonable" so it's not like he jumped off the edge of the cliff. If we weren't nearing the end of this day I'd be content to sit on him as a lynch candidate and see what he does, but is he the best we can find?

I'm going to reread Scib. Last time I remember, he +1'd some dumb thing you said in the middle of our argument. He's also been trying to tell me that I'm an asshole the whole game, and I don't like that.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 13:24 GMT
#761
On August 30 2013 22:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 22:16 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:07 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:04 yamato77 wrote:
I'm not thrilled with a Syl lynch. I've never seen him post his much, ever. Something tells me he wouldn't pick his scum game to start tryharding.

Hopeless I still have yet to read, but honestly FT is not a terrible lynch.


Do it please.

FT isn't a terrible lynch in that we're not losing anything by killing him and he might well be mafia, but it's terribly, terribly coinflippy.

blegh

Most of his filter is arguing about his read on TK which is based on TK's vote and unvote at the start of the game. Is he scum trying to fabricate a read out of something that I find completely meaningless or just a horribly misguided townie?

There's a few places in his filter where I go "well that seems reasonable" so it's not like he jumped off the edge of the cliff. If we weren't nearing the end of this day I'd be content to sit on him as a lynch candidate and see what he does, but is he the best we can find?

I'm going to reread Scib. Last time I remember, he +1'd some dumb thing you said in the middle of our argument. He's also been trying to tell me that I'm an asshole the whole game, and I don't like that.


Towntell to me, he told you you were bad, and rayn, and me. In his scumgame that I remember he stayed totally aloof, I can't see him taking up needling as mafia just for shits and giggles

He might, you never know.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 13:29 GMT
#768
On August 30 2013 22:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 22:24 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:18 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:16 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:07 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:04 yamato77 wrote:
I'm not thrilled with a Syl lynch. I've never seen him post his much, ever. Something tells me he wouldn't pick his scum game to start tryharding.

Hopeless I still have yet to read, but honestly FT is not a terrible lynch.


Do it please.

FT isn't a terrible lynch in that we're not losing anything by killing him and he might well be mafia, but it's terribly, terribly coinflippy.

blegh

Most of his filter is arguing about his read on TK which is based on TK's vote and unvote at the start of the game. Is he scum trying to fabricate a read out of something that I find completely meaningless or just a horribly misguided townie?

There's a few places in his filter where I go "well that seems reasonable" so it's not like he jumped off the edge of the cliff. If we weren't nearing the end of this day I'd be content to sit on him as a lynch candidate and see what he does, but is he the best we can find?

I'm going to reread Scib. Last time I remember, he +1'd some dumb thing you said in the middle of our argument. He's also been trying to tell me that I'm an asshole the whole game, and I don't like that.


Towntell to me, he told you you were bad, and rayn, and me. In his scumgame that I remember he stayed totally aloof, I can't see him taking up needling as mafia just for shits and giggles

He might, you never know.


and Syl might start posting a lot more as mafia. What's your point? lol

I feel like activity level as an alignment is more difficult to change than small stylistic posting differences.

You are right when you say that he does seem more engaged than he did as scum. I think I said as much earlier. Not worth going down that road today, I guess.

not lynching: you, hapa, debears, sylencia, rayn, scib, tutan

that leaves: Oats, Onegu, FT, Hopeless, Sn0

FT is coinflip, Hopeless is hopeless, so let's look at Oats/Sn0/Onegu.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 13:32 GMT
#772
On August 30 2013 22:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, how is hopeless 'hopeless'? He isnt normally pushing a lynch at all like the whole game.

That doesn't make him mafia.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 13:35 GMT
#777
On August 30 2013 22:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 22:32 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, how is hopeless 'hopeless'? He isnt normally pushing a lynch at all like the whole game.

That doesn't make him mafia.


by this argument nothing makes anyone mafia, dear.

1) Hopeless is/was pushing a case this game
2) Hopeless doesn't usually push cases as towm
3) Therefor, Hopeless is scum

idk about that conclusion
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 13:36 GMT
#779
On August 30 2013 22:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 22:35 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:32 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:32 yamato77 wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, how is hopeless 'hopeless'? He isnt normally pushing a lynch at all like the whole game.

That doesn't make him mafia.


by this argument nothing makes anyone mafia, dear.

1) Hopeless is/was pushing a case this game
2) Hopeless doesn't usually push cases as towm
3) Therefor, Hopeless is scum

idk about that conclusion


that's not really what the case on him is though, is it dear.

that's what Oats is saying, no?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 13:43 GMT
#782
I have to find a lynch candidate before I sleep.

give me bullet point on the case on hopeless, not going to reread to find it
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 13:43 GMT
#783
On August 30 2013 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
hopeless is pushing bad case.
hopeless is trying to 'look' town
Hopeless is scum.

Hopeless as town is like not so tryhard and is like kinda floaty? Like he is never the main dude pushing someone..

somewhat accurate, I suppose

but still, is this the BEST we've got? Hopeless is a player I definitely consider lynchbait.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 14:09 GMT
#797
On August 30 2013 23:09 Tutankoopa wrote:
Can anyone tell me how readable the replacement is?

his nickname is alakaspam

yeah
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 14:21 GMT
#806
debears, you tell me who to vote
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