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On September 07 2013 09:31 Cephiro wrote: Clarity, I'm not sure if a 5th person is necessary, but it can't hurt with a plan this complex. Are you in?
Do I have to like, do anything, btw? Or is agreeing enough?
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I can't say that I do. I'm guessing that the cell's "recruits" will start crying if the shots he orders are anti town shots, though.
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I just saw the ##drop the mic, stuff and figured something awesome was happening. But it's risen claiming 3p? Lame.
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my brain hurts when trying to wrap my head around htis game. I'm gonna go to bed early tonight. Bum still scummy, notice how suddenly everyone was okay with nolynch. Zentor likely scum, not as certain on this one though.
Risen likely truthful about third party, at the very least he's not scum. WoS... is still alive which is concerning, although he hasn't done much I suppose.
My townreads from last night still apply. Cya'll tomorrow if I don't die.
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On September 08 2013 14:13 debears wrote: Whyyyyyy am I still alive
(+3 fate) Once per game you can type ##Kill: <Player Name> in the thread anytime during the day to attack the player the next day (at the lynch) with your faster-than-light shuriken. Throwing your shuriken so fast that it travels through time allows you to lull your target into a false sense of security, so that when your attack hits the next day, it will pierce vet or medic protection on the target.
Read, please?
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I still like a randombum or mrzentor lynch. I'm actually starting to lean more and more towards zentor. First, reread my case, it still holds up (other than the scumslip, since geript flipped town): + Show Spoiler +On September 02 2013 04:27 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:21 MrZentor wrote: The point of it is to tell everybody that if geript flips scum, we need to lynch somebody in that list.
That's all. The way you decide to do this is to write out all 7 names and call all seven "extremely suspicious". Instead of just saying "if geript flips red we should look at the people who vote felkyr" Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:33 MrZentor wrote:On September 02 2013 02:20 strongandbig wrote:On September 02 2013 01:54 MrZentor wrote: I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.
We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript. What about me and my completely open attempt to persuade people not to vote geript? Did you read the thread or just the votes? Why would scum try to "save" geript if they knew the votes didnt matter anyway? And isn't trying to "save" geript only scummy if he flips scum? Or do you already know that he will? Yes, obviously there are people who tried to saved geript and didn't vote for felkyr, but they clearly weren't doing their best to save him and therefore not as likely to be scum . So he could wait to use his ability for when it would be much more useful? I should have been clear that I'm assuming geript flips scum. I think it's likely given the circumstances. It's also why I said the some of the people were "extremely suspicious" instead of saying that there were definitely scum in the list. Alright, let's just buy this explanation that you didn't scumslip and you were simply talking about a scenario where geript flips scum. How is trying to push a wagon that is not geript fine, but if it is felkyr it is extremely suspicious. stronganbig has it right. It seems like you haven't even read the game and you just went off the votecount to paint a wide array of people scummy. Not only did you backtrack from 100% certain geript will flip scum to "I dunno what he'll flip but if he flips scum blabla" But then there's this: Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:47 MrZentor wrote:On September 02 2013 02:20 Clarity_nl wrote: How the fuck can you be extremely suspicious of 7 people for doing the exact same thing. Can you narrow down the list, maybe? Because you didn't actually... do anything. I'm purposely not narrowing down the list until geript flips scum, because if he ends up not flipping scum, all the time spent narrowing down the list would be wasted. (Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town) This is some class A bullshit. You just explained why you don't wanna waste a bunch of time narrowing down the list, and then you immediately follow it by saying Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town. If it is obvious, why would you have to spend ANY amount of time on it? If it is obvious, why do you call EVERYONE on that list suspicious?? I try to make him clarify: Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:06 MrZentor wrote:On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote: If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet?????? You're kidding, right? Everybody knows which half it is. Zentor is saying everybody knows which of the people on that list are likely town. Then WHY DID YOU CALL EVERYONE ON THAT LIST EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS. Zentor cannot keep his story straight, which means he's not actually thinking about the game. His posts (especially this votecount analysis without context) are designed to make it look like he's thinking about the game. Therefore Zentor is scum.
Now let's look at his supposed townread on slam.
On September 03 2013 01:55 MrZentor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 03 2013 01:49 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 01:46 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:45 MrZentor wrote: ##vote Oatsmaster On September 03 2013 01:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on. No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him. A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him. Also, who are these people you speak of? Preferably people from the list of felkyr voters d1. So Oats is one. Please explain it though. Anyone else? Didn't we already agree his felkyr vote analysis shit is retarded? Especially since he missed out on cakepie entirely? Yeah, and he STUCK WITH IT. I don't care about his vote analysis, I care that he called 7 people suspicious, then said that half of them are obvious town. Today he said there are plenty of people who are more likely to be scum than alakaslam.MrZentor just keeps saying things without explaing WHO or WHY. It's because alakasam looks pretty townie. Basically, almost everybody looks scummy when compared to him because of that.
Slam looks pretty townie, everyone else looks scummy in comparison. So, this defense is weird for a townie to make. I guess the thing we need to find out, to see where his motives lie, is WHY he came to that townread.
On September 03 2013 01:57 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:55 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:55 MrZentor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 03 2013 01:49 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 01:46 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:45 MrZentor wrote: ##vote Oatsmaster On September 03 2013 01:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on. No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him. A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him. Also, who are these people you speak of? Preferably people from the list of felkyr voters d1. So Oats is one. Please explain it though. Anyone else? Didn't we already agree his felkyr vote analysis shit is retarded? Especially since he missed out on cakepie entirely? Yeah, and he STUCK WITH IT. I don't care about his vote analysis, I care that he called 7 people suspicious, then said that half of them are obvious town. Today he said there are plenty of people who are more likely to be scum than alakaslam.MrZentor just keeps saying things without explaing WHO or WHY. It's because alakasam looks pretty townie. Basically, almost everybody looks scummy when compared to him because of that. PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR TOWNREAD ON ALAKASLAM THEN PLEASE. WHY IS THIS LIKE PULLING TEETH, FUCK I've explained this loads of times. Please reads my posts. Thanks. I ask him, in all caps, cause I'm awesome. His reply is that he's explained it plenty. Okay let's look at his posts prior to this one regarding slam.
On September 03 2013 00:56 MrZentor wrote: On one hand, I don't know why alaskam would say he had that item as mafia.
On the other, I don't know why alaskam would choose to use that item so soon as town.
On September 03 2013 01:13 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:07 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On September 03 2013 01:04 MrZentor wrote: Actually, I would really like to kill oats.. Why should I over Alakunreadable? I've played with town Oats and mafia Oats before. Problem is, as both alignment he seems to give more fucks about the game. I just don't see any motive for Alakaslam to say that he was the one who shuffled the items as mafia. It just seems more like a thing a stupid townie would do. + Show Spoiler + "But what if he expected you to think that way?" you ask. It still would have been safer for him as mafia to simply not tell anybody than to hope that we don't kill him for what he did.
On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on. No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him. A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him.
These aren't townreads, these are "not scum" reads, which can easily be put as "not town" reads as well. There is a big fucking difference. Zentor called slam SO TOWNIE THAT EVERYONE ELSE LOOKS SCUM IN COMPARISON. And the reason for these words?
"Well..... his action makes no sense as either alignment"
Yeah, zentor trying to move the heat away from his scumbuddy, but not providing proper reasoning. Town try to figure things out and come to correct conclusions, scum make up conclusions to suit their goals, which in this case is survival. The same as my older case, zentor cannot keep his story straight. He says he gave plenty of reasons for calling slam a shining beacon of green but HE HAS NOT.
##Vote MrZentor
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I'm even ignoring closed casket where he made no effort to do anything. Just acting confused. And explaining how he has a useless role.
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On September 08 2013 21:16 AxleGreaser wrote:@Clarity Yesterday at one point you asked me how many mislynches we had left. Times have moved on bit : )))))) (I hope) I ask this question because I want to know (aka I lack any real idea) Do you have guess for how many scum might be left? AFAIK a straight up VT 31 game would have about 6? Aperture (Portal Mafia) had (T=17, 3rd=10, S=4) Does that seem in the ball park for this one? 4-5 scum depending on the actual number of (3rds, 4th, 5ths...) There are 11 dead Townies... Last night there were two unclaimed kills... (Except risen claims a hit... )
I've been working under the assumption of there being 6-7 scum total. But it's hard to tell with this setup, especially since the nightkill numbers show no pattern.
What do you think of MrZentor?
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I was surprised too but only because I didn't expect scum to tempban themselves on TL It's not the fact that he didn't believe slam was scum like I did, it's that he had a firm townread on him, which he never explained.
What rocks are you planning to look under Axle?
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Where are all the peoples? Anyone around? Anyone have an opinion on zentor?
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Care to explain? I mean, crushing zentor sounds good.
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Does his vote for lynch still count?
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If the crusher was made by koshi it could be a fake, right?
Regardless, zentor it seems you likely have about 30 hours to figure out the game and post your thoughts. If you're scum, just roll over and die instead.
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Do you think cephiro is scum for it? If not, move on. If so, convince us.
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Or Hiro I guess, I'm not sure what they did I'm assuming cephiro gave hiro the crusher?
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On September 09 2013 03:10 HiroPro wrote: I don't really understand why people think rayn is town just because he claimed a pokemon trainer.
Well, pokemon are clearly dying? If someone other than rayn knew anything about it AND THEY WERE TOWN they would have come forward by now. So they are scum, which makes rayn town?
Unless you think rayn is playing pokemon trainer with himself?
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On September 09 2013 03:16 HiroPro wrote: Why does there have to be another person? Why can't it just be a game against the hosts?
I guess it's possible, but that makes him likely 3p, right? Not scum. Like, rayn clearly stated he's fighting another person. Seems like a weird lie to make as scum.
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