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strongandbig

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September 11 2013 20:15 GMT

#144

On September 12 2013 04:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

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BITCH DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO.

should be blue step it up ziph

strongandbig

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September 11 2013 20:15 GMT

#145

also no goon game pretty sweet for mafia

strongandbig

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September 20 2013 20:41 GMT

#439

is there any more room or did bh take the last spot?

/in or /replacement, whichever works.

strongandbig

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September 24 2013 12:19 GMT

#2778

Hey brewskis! I'm Darth pink and I'm town.

I also have a problem set due tomorrow so it's unlikely I'll be able to read the whole thread. If people could link me to cases or guide my reading it would be a big help.

Truck?

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 24 2013 12:19 GMT

#2779

Ebwop that was supposed to say ttyl

strongandbig

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September 24 2013 13:56 GMT

#2787

On September 24 2013 21:22 Mocsta wrote:
I really wish Dp stayed. That snb post makes me want to put Dp back to null. It's like he knows there's a town read on his former slot and is abusing it.

Uuugggffhhhhhhh

Trololol

Srs?

strongandbig

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September 24 2013 14:19 GMT

#2789

On September 23 2013 09:51 marvellosity wrote:

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you town <3

Marv y u not ded?

Marv what's the context of this post? Why does it make yammo town? Can someone explain for me what the deal was with sentinel at the time?

Also Marv why haven't you been making arguments for why anyone is scum? You've been making plenty of arguments about why other people's arguments are bad...

Actually, I guess you did give real arguments in one or two posts about why ray was maybe scum but you hedged pretty hard... That seems townie. Is that a town tell for you? I don't think so, because as soon as you figured it out you would do it as scum too...

strongandbig

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September 24 2013 14:20 GMT

#2790

On September 17 2013 18:31 Mocsta wrote:
/in

when is this starting.

p.s. I'm going to be lurking this game. so feel free to call me snb

Wtf where did this come from

Jerk

strongandbig

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September 24 2013 14:21 GMT

#2791

On September 17 2013 22:24 Mocsta wrote:

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lol

If im active this game; im prob scum lol.. the appeal of a 30 player game is *LONG* behind me.

Voice mafia for the win !

strongandbig

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September 24 2013 14:30 GMT

#2796

On September 22 2013 22:41 Mocsta wrote:

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Btw.. this type of post is I believe, why yamato was nailed as scum by Ver in Sicilian.

Starts off with.. DP is scum.. yet ends up with a vote on Chairman.

Well done Noob-mato77

Mocsta do you still think Yamato is scum? What changed your mind?

strongandbig

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September 24 2013 14:46 GMT

#2807

On September 24 2013 23:32 Mocsta wrote:

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OK, i was trying to do what Koshi said we were doing before (but clearly not)

buddying.. i.e. i want you to be my new DP. lets work together.

In short, I was saying, is there someone you want me to look into and provide thoughts.

P.S. my issue with sentinel as scum boils now to my last night post.. "too scummy to be scum".. do you think a guy that has been called scum by several people would CONTINUE to do the same shit that landed him on heat in the first place - if scum?

I'm pretty sure, a scummer would have changed up the gameplay by now (this all considers that sentinel had enough pressure to warrant being threatended... which I am actaully not sure is the case??)

This is bad logic
Scum can be just as lazy as town

Plus sentinel is an old school player, he'll know the ace school method of scum playing

strongandbig

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September 24 2013 18:05 GMT

#2935

If Matt were scum would be really have gone after Marv like that?

Like, I mean in that particular way?

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 25 2013 03:35 GMT

#3198

∋(^.^)∈

strongandbig

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September 25 2013 16:32 GMT

#3436

I like the change in Marv's play style since last time I checked the theeaf.

strongandbig

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September 25 2013 16:37 GMT

#3441

Cep hiro is mega lurking. Is that part of the scum read people have on him? Idk some people that's a tell for some it's not. That said I feel like a high proportion of his loads are talking about just listing things that happened. I really don't like his post where he's like "oh we lynched the cop", I feel like the townie reaction is more like "WTF man y u be cop and play bad" not "oh that sucks" but the "oh that sixs" could be scum taking a reaction.

I'm voting cephiro now but i might change depending on whether I have time to read more about other pol.

##vote: cephiro

strongandbig

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September 25 2013 16:48 GMT

#3443

Why is pandaman's scum? I don't know what his alignment was yet I golden sun cause he hasn't flipped so I'm not sure how's to analyze him. I like his geript post tho

strongandbig

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September 25 2013 17:04 GMT

#3449

On September 26 2013 01:52 marvellosity wrote:
Like I've made enough posts on Pandain that you shouldn't be asking s&b.

ffs.

Ok found it its like five pages of your filter afo
The cephiro case is better because I think bus filter looks scummier. But your point about not wanting to lynch firm off is good. But why does wanting to kill you and not explaining make him scum. That's not something scum would probably do? Like its not in line at all with his other posts. Not saying it makes him town because it downs make sense either but I don't see why it's one of your points.

strongandbig

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September 25 2013 17:29 GMT

#3456

Yeah but why is contradicting himself in that specific way a scum tell
He's not doing it to blend in with town sentiment
He's not doing it in a way that advances any agenda

strongandbig

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September 25 2013 22:01 GMT

#3670

when is deadline

strongandbig

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September 25 2013 22:01 GMT

#3671

okay in four hours

strongandbig

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September 26 2013 13:34 GMT

#4230

On September 26 2013 12:19 Pandain wrote:
I'm going to post reads, please respond if you disagree with me:

DarthPunk/Strongandbig
TOWN

Darthpunk rage quitting out was extremely genuine. Unlikely to be scum since he's such an asset. Also too emotional.

Furthermore, SnB has been good for his play so far. Such asthis post which is smart. Not jumping on easy shit but actually analyzing.

That post was piling Marc about why he thought you were scum for voting him
But I have another question - why did you vote Marv in the first place? He was right, it came out of nowhere in your filter. I was dubious because as scum that seems counterproductive because it brings Marv's attention. But it doesn't make sense as town either.

strongandbig

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September 26 2013 14:10 GMT

#4252

On September 26 2013 16:09 Mattchew wrote:
Whats sad is that i dont think lm actually didnt play THAT bad a game if he really believed be wouldnt be lynched

Same as what I said about cephiro. This doesn't feel like a townie reaction to having just pushed a scum lynch.

Idk though, I still think Mattchew is probably town.

strongandbig

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September 26 2013 14:12 GMT

#4253

On September 26 2013 16:25 Mocsta wrote:
Stream of consciousness: Stutters695

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=Stutters695&view=all

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First post: Focused on Kush, and others perceptions of Kush. If forced to decide, I will lean town. I think a scum that wants a "weak" player will go on the offensive directly to that player. Stutters decision suggests that he has read the thread, come to the opinion that Kush is scum; and noticed a comment suggesting kush may be town so is querying it. I suppose this is what a suspicious town *should* do; but, its still pretty selfish as an opening post. Why is he avoiding all the other conversation that occured? Overal, leaning town (just)
I really dont his campaign post here; but i dont mind his follow up to DP pressure here. Its pretty confident, and the reasoning is a valid interpretation for early day1 information. Ultimately, scum *could* generate that reasoning; but, I think the way stutters went about it is indicative of recent tl town style.
A few null posts. As either alignment, he needs to follow up; and justify the case with Kush etc.. I would say he reads genuine in conviction though. Guess with Kush, you can fake it. Yeha, stay as null.
Post: This is an interesting reply. As in, as town, I *think* I would respond the same. All I can think is that, as scum, I would try and belittle him for admitting the case is good. So conversely I assume as town I wouldn't do it. As an aside, in my experience, when someone admits the case looks good - its been from town -> kush is town
Post Keeps pushing for Kush. I mena its a good thing he keeps campaigning. But he dosent offer a thought on anything else int he thread. Even when talking about vigs, its to divert back to Kush. I think thats pretty scummy, even if the cause is good in intention.
Post hmm. I'm not sure how much i like the pressure on kush (his only scum read). I mean, hes campaigning for him.. but when pressuring it feels jovial and distanced. I guess you can argue that you dont have to convince your scumread they are scum, but still. I just get an odd feeling that its not serious.
Considering stutters695 writes short paragrpahs in general, i dont see how phone posting should be stopping him interacting either. Anyways...
Chairman I just dont get this. Has been "reading filters" for a timestamp difference of two hours, and his first contribution to the thread is to call out a another weak player. I mean, its not that town cant target two weak players; its that he promised to filter read, and is instead commenting on live person (that is flipped town) and hasn't had any bearing on the thread (yet).. Theres nothing on DP/Geript or VE or FT etc.. i dont like this.
Chairman also made a post stating it was odd stutters called him out like this - specifically the focus of the question. Its wrong My thoughts on reading was "how does chair plan to TRAP scum"... stutters post is "how does chair plan to MAKE LIFE HARD hard for scum". It might sound like a small thing, but it indicates stutters is not looking to identify scum.

considering he has failed to comment on live matters, and this is his second weak player target Im going to give him a scum read so far. I just cant understand the motivation for this query to chairman as town.
Post Says he has caught up; but only comments on chairman. I dont like his wording of "failed to demonstrate why it must come from a scum mindset".. but i wont hold it against him. I just dont like it, cos its a long sentence for a guy that types very little. Feels overcompensated. Will leave as null cos prob nitpicking.
Kush case The entire case is based on not caring about the lynch. Its funny, he debunks kush scum read on stutters (decided to target him pre-game) by stating, he has zero justification.. kinda a weird way to respond, but whatever..
as town: I used to make cases on Kush, but my case style is much different to stutters,so im finding it hard to detect if this is a scum or town case. I think overall, the case is pretty shit and lack lustre. Especially to justify Kush being his sole focus of Day1. I mean, stutters hasnt even commented on anything else other than a semantic from Chairman.. and this is his case? I dont think time is a valid excuse here, but I want to lynch for scum motivation, not poor play. Will treat this as null.
reads Finally, some reads. Lone is another lurker... this guy is got a habit of choosing ppl who dont fight back. What i dont like here is, he commetns on bad play from lone, but doesnt go so far to call him scum... so why make a post around reads if you not going toa conclusion? Then calls chairman scum without any justification? wat the?
Unfortunately, i can see town doing this post, so null.... ggrrr
association FINALLY, Stutters converses on something live in the thread other than kush/lurkers... guess who.. its koshi having a dig at FT.... this is very interesting. If stutters is scum (which is my lean) then FT could be an easy association.
marv pressure ncie question from marv, weird at the time. But now that im suspicious, its useful.
So stutters likes to bus i suppose? Admits his cases are terrible? Knows thread sentiment -> he wont get lynched for stupid shit

Doesnt help me. Accept, if kush is scum.. i need to check how much of a shit kush gave to be pressured by stutters. Did he just brush it off or fight back?
post Interesting question from marv again. based on the whole martyr thing, shouldnt stutters opinino have changed of at least one of lone/chair... stutters response is acceptable if he is known for tunneling. I suspect he is not (he didtn even mention tunneling in his self-description prior); so i think this is bad points for stutters.
post Like i dont get this... he set himself up to vote LM, so thats OK. But the thing with kush, i mean; he wrote a case and was campaigning it.. like, i just would expect him to adapt the case if it wasnt getting traction? Its like he moved onto the next best easy wagon choice.. Im really not a fan of this action.
I completely admit town can drop their cases if there is no traction, but he doesnt even state kush is still his top read. The only reason he dropped the vote is because town didnt think it was a good idea.. Yeah, dont like.
Martyrs by asking for a vig. Kinda weird, cos it acknowledges he is fully aware of his thread position. I actually dunno if town would say this, but feel like if i judge it, im judging poor play vs scummy play. Null
post aa hhhhahhh... this ties in excatly with what iw as saying before. He left kush alone because the thread didnt want a piece of it; admits it. Hes just looking at options. SCUM RIGHT HERE ! (thnx marv)
post STILL avoiding key issues int he thread, and regurgitating the same crap about kush and lonemeow. The reads barely updated as well; and doesnt pressure the reads. He basically throwing out shit on ppls names, and hopes other ppl get the traction on them.. I prob have a read a town game on him; but this is a pretty scummy way to play in general.
Last post sucks too. I wonder now whether Stutters will re-target to Kush?

I got a new scum read. Im a little jaded cos some of it feels like bias against extremely poor play; but theres a few things I just cant fathom originating from a town mindset.

(1) He never comments on live thread matters -> accept a timely delurk to defend FirmTofu.

In fact, the only people he talks about are (Kush, LoneMeow, Chairman) + 1 reference to FT. The 3 in front, are all easy target lurkers; 2 have flipped town.

(2) He never pressures his reads (unless you include that Kush case, which he dropped as soon as it didnt get traction) and when you read his justifications, he doesnt actually explain why its scummy behaviour.. its just poor play

(3) The vig request martyr is really odd as well. Martyrs seems to be the 'in" thing on TL these days, and its not alignment indicative (as in. auto-town).

(4) Can you say this guy is honestly scum hunting? This is beyond poor play, the guy clearly has read the game, and picks/chooses his times to comment. This suggests that there is certainly a motive/agenda behind the posts; yet he doesn't scum hunt.

SCUM RIGHT HERE.

I like this case. Seal of approval

strongandbig

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September 26 2013 14:17 GMT

#4255

Ok wait I just read what mocsta did. I had been assuming he like vote swapped on to lm. But he fakecounterclaimed him? What in the actual fuck?

strongandbig

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September 26 2013 14:17 GMT

#4256

Who does rhar

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 26 2013 14:29 GMT

#4258

Nah I still like the case.

I just can't decide if your fakeclaim makes you scum, or if we should policy lynch you, or if we should let you live.

Like, I kind of see what Marv is thinking about needing to policy lynch you to guarantee the integrity of mafia as a game. Look at grack last game, he was scum and made a retarded fakeclaim (less egregious than this one tho) which got oeople to say "only townies would make this stupid a fakeclaim".

But otoh I really want to kill cephiro.

strongandbig

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September 26 2013 20:29 GMT

#4387

ve whatit means is that cephirio was a better lynch day 2 because of his reactions on day 1

strongandbig

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September 26 2013 22:19 GMT

#4472

On September 27 2013 06:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
SnB has been by and large considered town by everyone. Yet he's not trying to do anything with this trust. I find that disturbing.

so fuck you

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 27 2013 19:28 GMT

#4760

##vote: cephiro
just checking in
still working on pset
kind of used up my break in the other game i'm in but that's okay because we found scum here already. kill cephiro.

strongandbig

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September 28 2013 18:05 GMT

#4825

On September 28 2013 14:52 iamperfection wrote:
also strongandbig start posting more. i dont give a shit about any test you have.

We have a known and correct lynch in this game. Add that to the fact that the game is massive, that I replaced in, and that town has derped excruciatingly hard twice, and that I am busy irl, and that I'm on like a seven game losing streak anyway and that i signed up for another game when i thought i didnt get into this one and that I replaced in for someone who presumably ragequit the game and maybe you'll see why it's less motivating to post here.

If cephiro finally gets lynched and flips scum, or if people start moving off him and I need to yell at them, maybe I'll post more. But for now what you see is what you get.

strongandbig

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September 30 2013 14:44 GMT

#5150

Why are people voting VE - is it just because he is still alive? Like, that's a good argument and I find it kind of compelling but has anyone actually analyzed his play?

I want to kill risen ATM. Geript's case was good. How are people just ignoring it?

Don't want to kill mocsta. If he's scum then he can trololol his head off for all I care. Our best chance of winning is to kill the clearest scum around.

##vote: risen

strongandbig

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September 30 2013 16:36 GMT

#5177

On October 01 2013 00:12 VisceraEyes wrote:

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Garbage scum team? Dude that's THE scumteam. If you disagree with me feel free to keep dumbly voting for me or whatever.

Pretty bad

##unvote
##vote: VE

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 30 2013 21:58 GMT

#5258

i didnt get a pm lynch all liars

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 30 2013 22:03 GMT

#5260

On October 01 2013 06:58 strongandbig wrote:
i didnt get a pm lynch all liars

ok nm i got a pm

strongandbig

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September 30 2013 22:03 GMT

#5262

seriously what the fuck is going on with this game?

like, geript was getting progressively more pissed off but ve that came out of nowhere

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 30 2013 22:04 GMT

#5264

like, you ragequit the game cause one guy ignores your case?

strongandbig

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September 30 2013 22:05 GMT

#5266

um

you know what would be hilarious
if you were like a one-shot mason
and you only pm'd me
and i'm just getting so punkd right now

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 30 2013 22:06 GMT

#5267

but somehow i doubt it.

seriously ve whats going on

strongandbig

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September 30 2013 22:16 GMT

#5272

On October 01 2013 07:15 Risen wrote:
VE just rage quit the game, which means he's town. Should probably look at the people pushing him hardest and I would lynch the people VE wants to over someone like Geript.

Town OO would agree. Logic dictates OO is scum.

this is stupid

strongandbig

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September 30 2013 22:17 GMT

#5275

On October 01 2013 07:16 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: And I don't understand why people aren't more like me. Sure I rage, but I don't do anything bannable. Why shoot yourself in the foot over other people being incompetent? You've yelled at them and they're still idiots. You can't change that, they're obviously too stupid to change, just take a breather and move on.

this is not stupid

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 30 2013 23:01 GMT

#5295

i still like geript's case best.
##unvote
##vote: risen

strongandbig

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September 30 2013 23:05 GMT

#5297

geript wrote a good case and he's confirmed town now

i'd vote iamperfection too, ve's case was also good.

but why do you think risen's town? his post just now on oo was terrible.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 30 2013 23:09 GMT

#5299

hahaha that's pretty stupid

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 30 2013 23:09 GMT

#5300

why does it make him scum tho

strongandbig

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September 30 2013 23:09 GMT

#5301

scum are way more likely to give fucks than town at this point in this game

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 30 2013 23:17 GMT

#5304

okay but wait if he was scum wouldn't he know they killed matt?

anyway that post does actually look pretty bad

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

September 30 2013 23:17 GMT

#5305

oh that's what you mean by fake townslip

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

October 01 2013 16:15 GMT

#5483

##unvote: risen
##vote: iamperfection

Risen's interactions with the thread since geript's death have felt pretty townie to me.

I don't feel good about either the FT or mocsta lynches. With mocsta, it's just... like... I can't get over the fakeclaim thing. Honestly, if people feel like they have to vote him for that then fine. But his "stream of consciousness" stuff hasn't felt scummy to me.

Rather vote Lamper-fection. ve's case was dece and he really hasn't felt like his townie self. I dunno, it's the lynch I feel least bad about right now I guess.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

October 01 2013 16:16 GMT

#5484

oh actually the voting thread made me remember - I would be okay with stutters as well. I like that lynch a lot more than either the ft or mocsta lynches.

strongandbig

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October 03 2013 18:02 GMT

#6178

##vote: stutters

strongandbig

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October 03 2013 18:03 GMT

#6180

Oh what I'm dead
No one pm'd me my bad

strongandbig

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October 03 2013 18:04 GMT

#6181

##unvote

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

October 03 2013 18:06 GMT

#6183

Oh man and that was post number 4k lol

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

October 05 2013 16:05 GMT

#6387

okay so here's the thing

we had TWO TOWNIES GET THEMSELVES MODKILLED TO PUSH THEIR CASES ON OTHER TOWNIES

what in the flying fuck guys

what in the fuck

NO ONE EVER DO THIS AGAIN OKAY

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

October 05 2013 16:06 GMT

#6388

PS: This is the second game with strategic self-modkills in as many months. We need to start punishing this harder than just a one game ban, this is seriously unacceptable.

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