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On September 23 2013 14:45 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 14:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 14:36 FirmTofu wrote:On September 23 2013 14:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry for triple post.
I'll restate my original idea---if there are flaws in it please let me know.
Basically we come up with a list of targets that should be shot into tonight. If anyone dies outside of those targets we know they are scum kills. If scum chooses to fuck with us and shoot into our targets then they are doing our job for us.
The above may seem fairly obvious but with protects going out and 'lone gunmen' acting of their own accord it's possible that we may have different than the assumed number of scum NKs so we don't want any shots getting 'lost.' You want to create a list of people that scum shouldn't kill? Isn't that just helping scum? Explain how. You create a list of vig targets, right? Scum now have a list of town players that they shouldn't kill. They will deliberately avoid these players because they do not want to waste a night kill shooting into a possible vig target. It makes their job to decide a NK a lot easier.
Have you ever played scum, FT?
Scum always know who they're going to kill. If I were scum this game, I know who I'd kill.
It's not going to be anyone on our list, because we wouldn't be shooting these people if they were useful members of the town. Scum wants to shoot useful members of the town.
EVEN IF we were somehow helping them by leading them towards good targets, we have an unknown number of protects. In fact, one could even argue that narrowing down their 'good shots' can be good for us because it forces them to shoot into a pool of people we will be protecting.
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On September 23 2013 14:56 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 14:49 FirmTofu wrote:On September 23 2013 14:48 Mocsta wrote:
Ft.
Have u read the whole game yet? Not yet, I read slowly, forgive me. I am at page 50, though. Wave idea is born from how the thread and lynched played out. It's not a policy motive. I think its best if u catch up on the thread.
Actually I came up with this way before the lynch. It is policy but obviously can be applied to deal with how the lynch played out.
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On September 23 2013 15:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya actually plz someone shoot me tonight. I may not get a chance to get caught up satisfactorily, and enough of town wants me dead that frankly I don't want to waste a lynch on me. So ya, open season on VE. Tell your friends.
What the shit is this.
VE play the damn game.
Goes for you too, LM, wherever you are.
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On September 23 2013 15:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well I intend to, but honestly I'm afraid I'm going to get lynched tomorrow and I really would rather town lynch scum. Obviously a vig shot would be better used on scum, but I think me dying to vig could be a net gain for town since the lynch is so much more important than NKs with regard to information gathering.
Or, you know, you could actually play and help us find scum if you're actually town.
Like, since when would a town VE have any trouble proving his towniness (in a game with no crazy roles or 3Ps and fakeclaiming is hella dumb  )
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On September 23 2013 15:07 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 15:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well I intend to, but honestly I'm afraid I'm going to get lynched tomorrow and I really would rather town lynch scum. Obviously a vig shot would be better used on scum, but I think me dying to vig could be a net gain for town since the lynch is so much more important than NKs with regard to information gathering. If it makes you feel any better, I'm upgrading you to null based on some of the stuff I've recently been reading. If you're town, get yo shit together and play the game.
I giggled a little.
Off to bed. Should be decently active during the day and then pre-Daypost.
I want to hear what other people have to say about my plan.
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On September 23 2013 21:43 yamato77 wrote:
This Marv push from DP is like, the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
DP almost HAS to be scum hamming it up. He could not be this butthurt as town, no way.
K.
I had to halt my readthrough to post about this.
Fuck all of you because I brought this up at the beginning of the fucking game. I may also be a little butthurt because I'm not on Koshi's dumb-as-shit doclist.
Marv is town.
Continuing readthrough.
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Wowow and I just got to the DP replacing out part.
Like....I understand getting upset every so often about things that happen in here like lurkers/people getting modkilled, or insulting/out-of-line posting but DP you're getting pissed off over things that are actually legitimately part of every game.
Maybe it is time for you to quit mafia. 
Almost done readthrough.
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lol Mocsta that post regarding yamato...honetsly since playing voice with him I have more respect for this play than I did before, and I don't find him to be a dick at all.
Another random though: CC is probs town---he's way too lazy as fuck to be scum.
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On September 24 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 01:35 marvellosity wrote:
Someone can shoot Vayne too. Too many people to shoot. No his posts are so funny. ^_^ but for real, shoot the shit out of him..
I'm really enjoying his posts this game, but yeah. He's definitely on the shot-list.
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On September 24 2013 01:39 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
geript, I'm curious you haven't commented on DP's whole ragequit thingy. I'm trying not to comment on it honestly. The last rage quit burned me pretty hard.
eiuvbaltbvaliuvt
You need to stop bringing up Bluelightz. It causes the bile to rise up from my gut and scorch my insides.
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On September 24 2013 02:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 02:13 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 21:43 yamato77 wrote:
This Marv push from DP is like, the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
DP almost HAS to be scum hamming it up. He could not be this butthurt as town, no way. K. I had to halt my readthrough to post about this. Fuck all of you because I brought this up at the beginning of the fucking game. I may also be a little butthurt because I'm not on Koshi's dumb-as-shit doclist. Marv is town.Continuing readthrough. Whence this confidence, given your reservations yesterday, sir?
Some stuff you said.
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On September 24 2013 02:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 02:29 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 24 2013 02:24 marvellosity wrote:On September 24 2013 02:13 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 21:43 yamato77 wrote:
This Marv push from DP is like, the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
DP almost HAS to be scum hamming it up. He could not be this butthurt as town, no way. K. I had to halt my readthrough to post about this. Fuck all of you because I brought this up at the beginning of the fucking game. I may also be a little butthurt because I'm not on Koshi's dumb-as-shit doclist. Marv is town.Continuing readthrough. Whence this confidence, given your reservations yesterday, sir? Some stuff you said. Elaborate please.
Dun wanna. 
It's actually a kind of tell that's worked out really well for me lately on other people and I am aware that if I reveal it I'll get 100 explanations as to why it's wrong or make people hyper-aware of it. Don't you worry your pretty little head, marv.
(I just wish I was as good and figuring out who is scum.)
So better start coming up with dat viglist.
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Viglist:
High priority - Superlurk, we get no info from them ever
Risen
Vayne ()
Cephiro
Onegu????
(Apparently we're not supposed to shoot the replacements but I don't understand why they haven't even attempted to post yet.)
Medium Priority - Useless but at least have something in their filters
***Lonemeow - I personally believe him to be town but I will understand why he needs to be shot. Otherwise he would be in high priority.
Coag
Mattchew
Stutters
Pandain
Low Priority - (not a fan of what posting they've done/too hard to read)
Kush
Umasi
JAT
Zaragon
There are enough high priority targets that none of the med/lower priority targets should be shot. The primary use of these shots should be to eliminate people from the game that are going to make it very difficult for us to win with at LYLO, which is true for any of the high priority types. Yes, they may be town players (sadly they likely are, as usually is with useless shits) but it will ultimately make the game easier for us to lynch scum and not have huge question marks sitting around all game.
Again, thoughts/commentary/rebuttals are welcome.
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On September 24 2013 02:53 kushm4sta wrote:
Lol wtf is the point of all these detailed as Fuck vig lists
I'd love to move you to the top due to personal bias but that probably isn't appropriate.
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On September 24 2013 02:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 02:53 kushm4sta wrote:
Lol wtf is the point of all these detailed as Fuck vig lists I seriously hope you start playing decently on D2 aswell, as you are perfectly capable of doing so.
See that's the thing.
I think the ego boost he got from people riding his dick during/after Persona has now given him a free pass to play like shit in his mind.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt at the time but no longer. His free pass has expired in my mind.
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On September 24 2013 03:05 kushm4sta wrote:
He'll no wos. You don't even know what you are talking about. See unlike I actually have shit going on in my life. And you think you are the shit because you cast games or something. News flash bra. That's not a real job
lolwut?
Alright keeping impending shitfest with you out of the thread. Suffice it to say you are very lucky I don't have a gun this game. And never do yet I have to put up with you like every game.
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But by all means kush, continue to keep insulting me. I'll see if I can't get you modkilled.
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On September 24 2013 03:27 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 02:53 kushm4sta wrote:
Lol wtf is the point of all these detailed as Fuck vig lists It's so people can look active without actually doing anything.
Yup I'm clearly guilty of that.
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On September 24 2013 03:51 justanothertownie wrote:
If I remember this correctly he switched when ray was clearly in the lead so maybe he wanted to distance himself from the still happening lynch of a townie?
Are you looking for reasons to fit Mocsta's actions to your read of him?
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On September 24 2013 04:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
1: DarthPunk
2: raynpelikoneet
3: WaveofShadow
4: gumshoe
5: yamato77
6: kushm4sta
7: Koshi
8: ObviousOne
9: Chairman Ray
10: FirmTofu
11: Pandain
12: Cephiro
13: Mr. Cheesecake
14: Xzavier
15: Coagulation
16: Stutters695
17: Onegu
18: Zenatsu
19: [UoN]Sentinel
20: VisceraEyes
21: VayneAuthority
22: geript
23: Risen
24: LoneMeow
25: marvellosity
26: Zaragon
27: Mattchew
28: Umasi
29: justanothertownie
30: Mocsta
Okay this is where I stand going into reread mode. If anyone has any questions for me get them into the thread. I realize there are probably too many red names, but these are where most of my suspicions lie. I'll be doing a mix of filtering and rereading, so I may be delayed in responding.
I'm pretty bothered by the fact that many of these red names are present in my vig-list in one form or another.
Do you really believe that the entire scumteam is being lurky/useless and they do not have one strong member?
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