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On September 23 2013 07:25 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 07:00 yamato77 wrote:
Chairman Ray, not Rayn.
Yes, I think I can get him lynched. Since we still have a few hours left, I would like to discuss the reads you have one me right now so I don't get voted on impulse very last second. I don't buy your reasoning on why I should be the one lynched. I think that anyone can make any sort of opening post, whether they are scum or town. So what if there's one mafia in one of your previous games that made a terrible first post? In your history of mafia, has there never been a town that made a terrible first post? Also, what is your opinion on my reads so far? I appreciate that you commented on my LM read, and hopefully I managed to answer your question. I hope that maybe we could discuss things a bit more rather than you just shrugging off my reads as poor attempts of scumhunting. Right now I think there are far better people to lynch, like koshi. I just f5ed the thread, and he still hasn't made any mention on why he's voting me. I respect you for voting me, and following up with a lot of good analysis and valid questions, but all koshi did was vote me in the voting thread, and never even mentioned it here. What's that's supposed to accomplish? It doesn't put any more pressure on me, it doesn't give any information, or anything. He's probably hoping that it would go unnoticed. I'm starting to think that he's scum and he's joining the bandwagon on me.
Stuff like this is also bugging me. Read what I've bolded. The natural reaction to the accusation against him on his first post is "well i'm town, so clearly townies make first posts like that".
Instead he's trying to argue that scum or town could make it, just making it a generic non-alignment indicative possibility, rather than proclaiming his towniness as a clear reason townies could make his opening post.
It's not the only time he talks about reads on him in this way either
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On September 22 2013 16:24 Chairman Ray wrote:
I filtered through posts, and the person who looks the scummiest to me right now is stutters. He's made only a few posts so far. Every post he's made is a poke at kush, but his very last post was questioning me on how I would try to play out the last hour to make things harder for scum. It seems that out of all these pages of posts, and all these players, he's only interested in getting people onto kush and learning my scum catching plan. That seems like a scum agenda to me. If it was you who asked me that question, I wouldn't mind it since you've been asking everyone questions about a lot of things. However stutters very selectively asking me that question instead of the countless other things that have been going on in this thread really screams scum to me.
He never votes this or revisits this.
##Vote: Chairman Ray
Overall there's just too much stuff that's added up against him. Am I totally confident? No, but he's my best bet for mafia right now.
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On September 23 2013 10:34 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 10:32 justanothertownie wrote:Ok, this is where I stand: LoneMeow: I can see him being discouraged town. The only thing I really don't like is how he just left after voting himself. He is definitely not dumb and knows that this is horrible. But I don't see how it really makes sense as scum either.
Ray:
I don't get this guy. His posting is extremely unintuitive but he obviously posted like this in his last game, too. I am struggling to form an opinion on him.
FirmTofu: On September 22 2013 19:10 FirmTofu wrote:On September 22 2013 19:00 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 18:58 FirmTofu wrote:On September 22 2013 18:50 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
DP.
Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied.
Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started? I find it odd that FT thought I was scummy for being defensive. And then when I am defensive towards him he thinks I am townie. There is a real inconsistency in his narrative IMO. I think a scum Firm Tofu would ABSOLUTELY not want to get into it with me. Further his originally thread summary was really really off. Actually I have had some thoughts. I may construct a longer post shortly about this if you'll give me some time. I would like to clarify my intentions here. The inconsistent narrative was deliberate. Why? You are active. Accusing you allows me to read you better. Think rayn's style of play. By posting an inconsistent narrative, I can gauge your response as being townie or scummy in a quick, direct, and efficient fashion. Furthermore, I can assess the extent to which you are actually scumhunting. The fact that you noticed the inconsistency makes you look more town to me. You want to find scum. You're looking for inconsistencies.
I can assure you, scum FirmTofu would buddy you until you die. You'll just have to take my word on that bit. So, what you are saying is that you accused me falsely based on some really bad meta read. and this whole time it was, in fact, a ploy in order to read me better? is that it? No, I accused you on a legitimate meta read that I "flavored" with some inconsistencies about your prior defensive behavior. This looks so unbelievable to me. There are 2 possibilities (I don't buy his explanation): (1) He is town and to proud to admit he made a mistake. (2) He is scum trying to cover up inconsistencies. He had this weird discussion with DP and he walked us through him reading the thread for a while (a good way to seem active and invested without necessarily doing too much of value). Then he just disappeared. If I was in his shoes and my time was limited I would try to catch up to the thread asap and not comment on things (without presenting some sort of critical information) that happened ages ago and I especially wouldn't try to discuss those comments with people instead of reading the rest of the thread. Of those 3 people I like this lynch the most and I have to vote someone now because I have to sleep.
##Vote: FirmTofu This actually phrases it really well. I want to talk to Ray but until then marv, put it this way: are you expecting Ray to play a certain way?
Not particularly? I have looked at his newbie game for what it's worth
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yeah i thought there was another hour O.o
I'm ok with both Firm and Ray wagons really, with preference to Ray
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Yeah I need to go to bed. If anyone wants anything urgently answering, now's the time to shout
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On September 23 2013 10:42 Stutters695 wrote:Well I need to get to bed since I have to get up at 7. Voting LM since you guys don't think Kush is a good idea 
This is terrible.
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I'm literally going now, but I sanction shenannies on Stutters just for that post
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On September 23 2013 11:48 Chairman Ray wrote:Well, here's my goodbye post. I suck so bad at mafia. This is kinda discouraging . Looks like I'm gonna be needing quite a bit of coaching post game. My plan was basically to seem a bit nooby/scummy at the start and avoid giving too much reads, but I played it terribly and became actually nooby and scummy near the end, and didn't have any reads prepped when I needed them. Was planning on revealing my blue as a last resort, but time kicked in and I didn't get a chance to count the votes. Sorry guys! I'm a terrible blue player .
fuck me why would you EVER try to play like this.
less said about the hosting the better tbh
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I don't give a crap what he crumbed. What goes through someone's mind when they're a total noob to purposefully play scummy?
To avoid the nightkill they're going to obviously draw in their grand noobiness?
Also, could the vigilante please kill Risen? He's playing like a cunt, he's ruining the game by signing up and not playing. What kind of cunt purposefully tries to ruin the games of others? Fuck off and don't sign up if you're not going to play.
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On September 23 2013 18:18 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, shoot rayn.
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Risen
Coag
rayn
Firmtofu
Those are good vigi targets.
By and large these vigi targets are shocking, as are at least one of your doc protect targets. You should be ignored.
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On September 23 2013 18:25 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:04 marvellosity wrote:
I don't give a crap what he crumbed. What goes through someone's mind when they're a total noob to purposefully play scummy?
To avoid the nightkill they're going to obviously draw in their grand noobiness?
Also, could the vigilante please kill Risen? He's playing like a cunt, he's ruining the game by signing up and not playing. What kind of cunt purposefully tries to ruin the games of others? Fuck off and don't sign up if you're not going to play. Marv, why so angry at risen and not at all the other useless lurkers?
like who?
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Sentinel isn't a great vigi shot at all. You can lynch Sentinel if you so please.
"People I'm vaguely suspicious of" does not equal "good vig shot"
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On September 23 2013 18:35 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:29 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 18:25 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 18:04 marvellosity wrote:
I don't give a crap what he crumbed. What goes through someone's mind when they're a total noob to purposefully play scummy?
To avoid the nightkill they're going to obviously draw in their grand noobiness?
Also, could the vigilante please kill Risen? He's playing like a cunt, he's ruining the game by signing up and not playing. What kind of cunt purposefully tries to ruin the games of others? Fuck off and don't sign up if you're not going to play. Marv, why so angry at risen and not at all the other useless lurkers? like who? Liek there are at least 5 players who haven't posted a full page of filter. Pandain, Onegu, Cephiro, Lone Meow, Vayne Authority I guess some have been replaced. I just want to know why you are mad at risen so bitterly and not at useless lurkers in general.
Some of those players just weren't there. Pandain actually looked like he was trying while he was here. Vayne is pretty dickish but hopefully he'll start playing.
Risen should know much, much better but he decided to stick around and post one or two one-liners just to troll the town. He was actually here at various points and decided to do nothing. It's... annoying.
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I pray to god a player like Koshi doesn't roll doc if he advocates medicing geript over me, for example.
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You don't doc people because you think they're really town, Koshi. You doc assetts.
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What's the point in this DP?
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Here's Risen's reaction to the lynch DP:
On September 23 2013 13:19 Risen wrote:
Rofl
And you think I'm singling him out unfairly? Really?
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yamato is very likely to be town at this stage, there's no point babbling on about it.
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