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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 12:02 GMT
#1167
On September 22 2013 20:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey DP, I don't know if this is your first fucking rodeo or something, but hey guess what?
People accuse each other of shit all the time! Both stupidly and intelligently alike! Welcome to mafia!

My suggestions is calm your tits and play the game without resorting to the angry tone, again either fabricated or real. Scaring FT away doesn't do a whole lot for us but it certainly makes it easier to accuse him of being scum which appears to be what you want?

Now if you please, have a look at my earlier post for me and if you have any thoughts on the matter I'd like to hear them.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=51#1005

I've played the same way for a long time. I am not changing just because you say so.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 12:13 GMT
#1171
On September 22 2013 21:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 21:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 20:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey DP, I don't know if this is your first fucking rodeo or something, but hey guess what?
People accuse each other of shit all the time! Both stupidly and intelligently alike! Welcome to mafia!

My suggestions is calm your tits and play the game without resorting to the angry tone, again either fabricated or real. Scaring FT away doesn't do a whole lot for us but it certainly makes it easier to accuse him of being scum which appears to be what you want?

Now if you please, have a look at my earlier post for me and if you have any thoughts on the matter I'd like to hear them.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=51#1005

I've played the same way for a long time. I am not changing just because you say so.

See, but that's where I don't believe you. I've played games before with you in which you were not this constantly incensed. I'll go have a look at those now, actually, because it may in fact be that as you say, you only get this way when people accuse you of being scum. That's pretty hilarious actually if true especially considering you say you're 'not meta-able.'


I do it as scum too. So no. not meta-able. Also I'm playing league. I will post when i feel like it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 13:08 GMT
#1186
Hmm guess I better read koshi's filter.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 13:47 GMT
#1204
God now yamato thinks I am scum too. Based on me doing something I do as town in many games. Seriously look up ego and mario mini's. If you think me not 'scumhunting' and solely defending myself is scummy based on meta those games will disprove that fact.

Clearly though. I have asked questions and scum hunted. I am actually not sure what yamato is saying here because I was pressuring FT on his reads and the consistency of his narrative. Which lead to a thoroughly scummy result. Honestly if everyone is going to call me scum stupidly then I am just going to ignore you all.

On September 22 2013 22:20 yamato77 wrote:
Scum DP is actually more likely to only argue the entire game than town DP is. Honestly, DP refusing to do anything OMGUS people the whole game is not a point in his favor, it is a point against. You should know better, because in Persona, he was actually somewhat useful despite there being arguments in the game.

Unfortunately, if DP is mafia, you're probably just bad. This whole situation between you and DP is entirely too convoluted for two scum to have constructed. And yes, I am calling DP mafia, for the record. He can very well play this game properly and not like a butthurt noob.


this is a vast oversimplification of what I have, in fact been doing.

I am not playing like a butthurt noob. For the record. I was relentlessly attacked by geript and tried VERY hard to not engage his blatant baiting. Then I had a productive (in my mind) talk with FT in which it became pretty clear to me that he was scum due to the inconsistencies in the claimed reasoning behind his reads.

To be honest I am just about done playing with the Yamato's, Geripts and Firmtofu's of the world.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 13:50 GMT
#1206
Like Is yamato even reading the thread. Because he has stated twice now in his large posts that all I am doing is shitting up the thread. But I am not. Clearly I tried to disengage with a moronic geript several times. Then with Firm tofu.

In between those cases I have been asking questions and have been trying to figure out the game.

His posts read as if he has only skimmed the thread lightly rather than actually absorbed and thought about what has happened in the game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 13:53 GMT
#1207
On September 22 2013 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 22:47 DarthPunk wrote:
God now yamato thinks I am scum too. Based on me doing something I do as town in many games. Seriously look up ego and mario mini's. If you think me not 'scumhunting' and solely defending myself is scummy based on meta those games will disprove that fact.

Clearly though. I have asked questions and scum hunted. I am actually not sure what yamato is saying here because I was pressuring FT on his reads and the consistency of his narrative. Which lead to a thoroughly scummy result. Honestly if everyone is going to call me scum stupidly then I am just going to ignore you all.

On September 22 2013 22:20 yamato77 wrote:
Scum DP is actually more likely to only argue the entire game than town DP is. Honestly, DP refusing to do anything OMGUS people the whole game is not a point in his favor, it is a point against. You should know better, because in Persona, he was actually somewhat useful despite there being arguments in the game.

Unfortunately, if DP is mafia, you're probably just bad. This whole situation between you and DP is entirely too convoluted for two scum to have constructed. And yes, I am calling DP mafia, for the record. He can very well play this game properly and not like a butthurt noob.


this is a vast oversimplification of what I have, in fact been doing.

I am not playing like a butthurt noob. For the record. I was relentlessly attacked by geript and tried VERY hard to not engage his blatant baiting. Then I had a productive (in my mind) talk with FT in which it became pretty clear to me that he was scum due to the inconsistencies in the claimed reasoning behind his reads.

To be honest I am just about done playing with the Yamato's, Geripts and Firmtofu's of the world.

Could you look at Koshi and what do you think of Mocsta's recent posting?


I have had a town read on mocsta for a while now. After a weirdly funky start he has been questioning and engaged with the thread. And when he says things it seems he has actually read and understood the thread which is more than I can say for most of the people in this game.

I still need to read koshi's filter. But he has certainly been a non event in this game. The Key thing is whether that is because he is actually not doing much or because he is flying under the radar.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 13:56 GMT
#1208
On September 22 2013 22:20 yamato77 wrote:
RE: Mocsta

Has toned down his play to some extent but his early game still bothers me. His outright refusal to respond to me is ridiculous and a pathetic excuse to not face your accuser. I think he doesn't want to argue with me because he knows I can catch him. If Mocsta was town, I would have expected a far more vehement response to my accusations than "blahblah I didn't even read Yamato's posts except for the part where he called me mafia. Totes not true."



Wait. Wasn't yamato talking earlier about how scum mocsta was more aggressive/dickish? and now he is saying he would town mocsta to act that way. That makes no sense.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:10 GMT
#1218
OK I read Koshi's filter and it seemed to contain a lot of one liners. Wasn't he going away though and stated before the game started that he would potentially be phone posting? If he is limited to phone posting then his filter makes a lot more sense as it is much more convenient to stick to one liners whilst phone posting.

Like I am unfamiliar with the standard of play required from Koshi. If it is a high standard and he is usually active and curious and writes good posts then I would be concerned that he was flying under the radar.

But if I discounted meta, then I would probably not want to lynch Koshi and here is why.

On September 21 2013 22:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 22:51 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch Mocst
Reason: People that make special posts always end up being scum.
Acrofoles: GoT
Persona: Crazometer
Aperture: Alakaslam (he was even more special than otherwise, with the evul bee posts)
Golden Sun: BH

Right...

So lets get you useful.

Is Geript scum?

I have 0 clues.
The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended.
But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me.

yeah OK, more stuff that means nothing. That was a different game.

You know; i have seen you replace in as town, and your game play was very different to what you are doing now.
Day1 spaztic mode is over.

So lets try again, one more time. - cos you didn't give a definitive answer on where you stand.

Read on Geript.
Then
Read on WaveofShadow.

:D
I do not want to lynch geript. Reason: He is making cases + he is a friendly fellow.
I could lynch WoS atm. He tried to fling shit at VE for not going to bed when he said he was going to bed. Unless he is VE his mother there is no reason to make that post.


On September 21 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote:
C. Koshi doesn't give 2 fucks about the case but loves the fact geript makes cases.
<Addendum> The case wasn't total shit for being a couple hours into the game. So extra points for geript.

Also, I am not defending geript. You keep asking me about geript. I simply answer.

Why is Geript making cases alignment indicative.
It isn't. I just don't want to lynch geript atm. I have 0 clues about geript his allignment.

Is DP scum?
I am not lynching DP. Scum got 6 nk next 2 nights unless crazy vigi happens n1. Let's see if DP is still alive day 3. I like DP posting as well.


Now ask me new shit. And answer my question. Why didn't you consider the fact that Kush wanted to see you 2 modkilled for posting "..." in the silent period. And why are you so butthurt about that fact? You even voted kush. Rules are Rules.



Here he states when questioned about both myself and geript that he does not want to lynch us? Why would a scum that is trying to fly under the radar take that position on both of us?

I think as scum it would be far easier and more convenient to just side with one or the other and no one would really care. Saying that you don;t want to lynch either draws attention to Koshi and if we read his filter and decide that he is trying to lay low, taking a controversial position just does not gel with that mindset.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:13 GMT
#1224
On September 22 2013 23:09 Mattchew wrote:
has anyone ever seen someone go back and read the thread and provide updates as they go along as scum?

and i can get down on a yamato vote for reasons stated above by others

or a stutters vote cause hypocrisy

I've done it as scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:16 GMT
#1229
On September 22 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:
OK I read Koshi's filter and it seemed to contain a lot of one liners. Wasn't he going away though and stated before the game started that he would potentially be phone posting? If he is limited to phone posting then his filter makes a lot more sense as it is much more convenient to stick to one liners whilst phone posting.

Like I am unfamiliar with the standard of play required from Koshi. If it is a high standard and he is usually active and curious and writes good posts then I would be concerned that he was flying under the radar.

But if I discounted meta, then I would probably not want to lynch Koshi and here is why.

On September 21 2013 22:55 Koshi wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:51 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch Mocst
Reason: People that make special posts always end up being scum.
Acrofoles: GoT
Persona: Crazometer
Aperture: Alakaslam (he was even more special than otherwise, with the evul bee posts)
Golden Sun: BH

Right...

So lets get you useful.

Is Geript scum?

I have 0 clues.
The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended.
But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me.

yeah OK, more stuff that means nothing. That was a different game.

You know; i have seen you replace in as town, and your game play was very different to what you are doing now.
Day1 spaztic mode is over.

So lets try again, one more time. - cos you didn't give a definitive answer on where you stand.

Read on Geript.
Then
Read on WaveofShadow.

:D
I do not want to lynch geript. Reason: He is making cases + he is a friendly fellow.
I could lynch WoS atm. He tried to fling shit at VE for not going to bed when he said he was going to bed. Unless he is VE his mother there is no reason to make that post.


On September 21 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote:
C. Koshi doesn't give 2 fucks about the case but loves the fact geript makes cases.
<Addendum> The case wasn't total shit for being a couple hours into the game. So extra points for geript.

Also, I am not defending geript. You keep asking me about geript. I simply answer.

Why is Geript making cases alignment indicative.
It isn't. I just don't want to lynch geript atm. I have 0 clues about geript his allignment.

Is DP scum?
I am not lynching DP. Scum got 6 nk next 2 nights unless crazy vigi happens n1. Let's see if DP is still alive day 3. I like DP posting as well.


Now ask me new shit. And answer my question. Why didn't you consider the fact that Kush wanted to see you 2 modkilled for posting "..." in the silent period. And why are you so butthurt about that fact? You even voted kush. Rules are Rules.



Here he states when questioned about both myself and geript that he does not want to lynch us? Why would a scum that is trying to fly under the radar take that position on both of us?

I think as scum it would be far easier and more convenient to just side with one or the other and no one would really care. Saying that you don;t want to lynch either draws attention to Koshi and if we read his filter and decide that he is trying to lay low, taking a controversial position just does not gel with that mindset.

Why would scum want to side with one of you two in case;
(1) You are both town?
(2) One of you is scum?
(3) Both of you are scum?


Because when the whole thread is giving out town/scum reads it is a lot more convenient for a scum who is laying low to say. 'Oh X is scum and Y is town', than to say 'I don't know who is scum or town but I don't want to lynch either of them.'
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:19 GMT
#1231
On September 22 2013 23:14 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
OK I read Koshi's filter and it seemed to contain a lot of one liners. Wasn't he going away though and stated before the game started that he would potentially be phone posting? If he is limited to phone posting then his filter makes a lot more sense as it is much more convenient to stick to one liners whilst phone posting.

Like I am unfamiliar with the standard of play required from Koshi. If it is a high standard and he is usually active and curious and writes good posts then I would be concerned that he was flying under the radar.

But if I discounted meta, then I would probably not want to lynch Koshi and here is why.

On September 21 2013 22:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 22:51 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch Mocst
Reason: People that make special posts always end up being scum.
Acrofoles: GoT
Persona: Crazometer
Aperture: Alakaslam (he was even more special than otherwise, with the evul bee posts)
Golden Sun: BH

Right...

So lets get you useful.

Is Geript scum?

I have 0 clues.
The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended.
But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me.

yeah OK, more stuff that means nothing. That was a different game.

You know; i have seen you replace in as town, and your game play was very different to what you are doing now.
Day1 spaztic mode is over.

So lets try again, one more time. - cos you didn't give a definitive answer on where you stand.

Read on Geript.
Then
Read on WaveofShadow.

:D
I do not want to lynch geript. Reason: He is making cases + he is a friendly fellow.
I could lynch WoS atm. He tried to fling shit at VE for not going to bed when he said he was going to bed. Unless he is VE his mother there is no reason to make that post.


On September 21 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote:
C. Koshi doesn't give 2 fucks about the case but loves the fact geript makes cases.
<Addendum> The case wasn't total shit for being a couple hours into the game. So extra points for geript.

Also, I am not defending geript. You keep asking me about geript. I simply answer.

Why is Geript making cases alignment indicative.
It isn't. I just don't want to lynch geript atm. I have 0 clues about geript his allignment.

Is DP scum?
I am not lynching DP. Scum got 6 nk next 2 nights unless crazy vigi happens n1. Let's see if DP is still alive day 3. I like DP posting as well.


Now ask me new shit. And answer my question. Why didn't you consider the fact that Kush wanted to see you 2 modkilled for posting "..." in the silent period. And why are you so butthurt about that fact? You even voted kush. Rules are Rules.



Here he states when questioned about both myself and geript that he does not want to lynch us? Why would a scum that is trying to fly under the radar take that position on both of us?

I think as scum it would be far easier and more convenient to just side with one or the other and no one would really care. Saying that you don;t want to lynch either draws attention to Koshi and if we read his filter and decide that he is trying to lay low, taking a controversial position just does not gel with that mindset.
This is assuming at least two of (Geript, DP, Koshi) are town I gather?

What if Koshi/Geript is scum, and you are town? This scenario is equally plausible in my opinion.


That is true. But I hadn't considered it because the more elaborate a situation is the less I consider it when making reads.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:19 GMT
#1234
Mattchew. You got a read on marv yet?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:25 GMT
#1239
On September 22 2013 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 23:16 Mattchew wrote:
oh right, mocsta has been trying to be a town leader and getting information out of people, from what I know of him, this is how he likes to play as town
town pitbull
I dont have the energy or time to be a town campaigner.

Im the interrogator. Which I guess is the non-provoked DP role. :p


Seriously. I feel like I have to shut this nonsense down hard or every game people who have never really played with me or have no real grasp on meta/my meta will call me scum retardedly and it all starts over again.

People have tried to read me off meta and have never, ever succeeded. In fact, one of the few times I have been mislynched was a dumb meta case on me by blazinghand. And when I say that it was dumb it was ten times better than the meta that Yamato/geript and FT bring up.

There is only one person that I know of whom has correctly meta read me several times and that is Keirathi. So when I say meta doesn't work on me, What I am saying is that meta does work on me for you

And I am not talking to you specifically mocsta. I am just getting all this frustration off my chest. <3
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:27 GMT
#1240
On September 22 2013 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 23:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 22 2013 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:
OK I read Koshi's filter and it seemed to contain a lot of one liners. Wasn't he going away though and stated before the game started that he would potentially be phone posting? If he is limited to phone posting then his filter makes a lot more sense as it is much more convenient to stick to one liners whilst phone posting.

Like I am unfamiliar with the standard of play required from Koshi. If it is a high standard and he is usually active and curious and writes good posts then I would be concerned that he was flying under the radar.

But if I discounted meta, then I would probably not want to lynch Koshi and here is why.

On September 21 2013 22:55 Koshi wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:51 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch Mocst
Reason: People that make special posts always end up being scum.
Acrofoles: GoT
Persona: Crazometer
Aperture: Alakaslam (he was even more special than otherwise, with the evul bee posts)
Golden Sun: BH

Right...

So lets get you useful.

Is Geript scum?

I have 0 clues.
The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended.
But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me.

yeah OK, more stuff that means nothing. That was a different game.

You know; i have seen you replace in as town, and your game play was very different to what you are doing now.
Day1 spaztic mode is over.

So lets try again, one more time. - cos you didn't give a definitive answer on where you stand.

Read on Geript.
Then
Read on WaveofShadow.

:D
I do not want to lynch geript. Reason: He is making cases + he is a friendly fellow.
I could lynch WoS atm. He tried to fling shit at VE for not going to bed when he said he was going to bed. Unless he is VE his mother there is no reason to make that post.


On September 21 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote:
C. Koshi doesn't give 2 fucks about the case but loves the fact geript makes cases.
<Addendum> The case wasn't total shit for being a couple hours into the game. So extra points for geript.

Also, I am not defending geript. You keep asking me about geript. I simply answer.

Why is Geript making cases alignment indicative.
It isn't. I just don't want to lynch geript atm. I have 0 clues about geript his allignment.

Is DP scum?
I am not lynching DP. Scum got 6 nk next 2 nights unless crazy vigi happens n1. Let's see if DP is still alive day 3. I like DP posting as well.


Now ask me new shit. And answer my question. Why didn't you consider the fact that Kush wanted to see you 2 modkilled for posting "..." in the silent period. And why are you so butthurt about that fact? You even voted kush. Rules are Rules.



Here he states when questioned about both myself and geript that he does not want to lynch us? Why would a scum that is trying to fly under the radar take that position on both of us?

I think as scum it would be far easier and more convenient to just side with one or the other and no one would really care. Saying that you don;t want to lynch either draws attention to Koshi and if we read his filter and decide that he is trying to lay low, taking a controversial position just does not gel with that mindset.

Why would scum want to side with one of you two in case;
(1) You are both town?
(2) One of you is scum?
(3) Both of you are scum?


Because when the whole thread is giving out town/scum reads it is a lot more convenient for a scum who is laying low to say. 'Oh X is scum and Y is town', than to say 'I don't know who is scum or town but I don't want to lynch either of them.'

Correct me if i am wrong but i think the only one who gave a strong scumread on either one of you was you?


No i think a few people came out over the course of the day leaning one way or the other.

I dunno dude. Like you could be right, and I clearly don't have the same grasp on reading koshi that you do. But after reading his filter and because of the other stuff I brought up I certainly don't think he is very scummy. He could be lying low. Or he could just not really be trying. I can't tell which so I think a Koshi lynch would be a bit of a gamble honestly.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:29 GMT
#1242
On September 22 2013 23:20 Mattchew wrote:
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On September 22 2013 23:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Mattchew. You got a read on marv yet?

no, and i never will

Clearly town should not lynch marv day one or two. But I thought it was interesting that I don't really have a firm read on him either way when I usually do this far into day one. Like I see people give him town reads and I just don't see it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:35 GMT
#1246
On September 22 2013 23:33 Mocsta wrote:
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On September 22 2013 23:29 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 23:20 Mattchew wrote:
On September 22 2013 23:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Mattchew. You got a read on marv yet?

no, and i never will

Clearly town should not lynch marv day one or two. But I thought it was interesting that I don't really have a firm read on him either way when I usually do this far into day one. Like I see people give him town reads and I just don't see it.

I have accepted that marv activity may never reach the pinnacle it was 9 months ago.
So I have adjusted my expectations of him.

I have a lean on marv but it could reverse depending on flips. I agree though, leave him alone a cycle of two.

If he is town, he will come into the thread himself.



I haven't played with him for a while so I wasn't aware his posting rate dropped. It is certainly weird to see a 3 page filter marv when he used to have up to 20 page filters day one.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:36 GMT
#1247
On September 22 2013 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 22 2013 23:27 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 22 2013 23:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 22 2013 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:
OK I read Koshi's filter and it seemed to contain a lot of one liners. Wasn't he going away though and stated before the game started that he would potentially be phone posting? If he is limited to phone posting then his filter makes a lot more sense as it is much more convenient to stick to one liners whilst phone posting.

Like I am unfamiliar with the standard of play required from Koshi. If it is a high standard and he is usually active and curious and writes good posts then I would be concerned that he was flying under the radar.

But if I discounted meta, then I would probably not want to lynch Koshi and here is why.

On September 21 2013 22:55 Koshi wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:51 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote:
[quote]
Right...

So lets get you useful.

Is Geript scum?

I have 0 clues.
The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended.
But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me.

yeah OK, more stuff that means nothing. That was a different game.

You know; i have seen you replace in as town, and your game play was very different to what you are doing now.
Day1 spaztic mode is over.

So lets try again, one more time. - cos you didn't give a definitive answer on where you stand.

Read on Geript.
Then
Read on WaveofShadow.

:D
I do not want to lynch geript. Reason: He is making cases + he is a friendly fellow.
I could lynch WoS atm. He tried to fling shit at VE for not going to bed when he said he was going to bed. Unless he is VE his mother there is no reason to make that post.


On September 21 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote:
C. Koshi doesn't give 2 fucks about the case but loves the fact geript makes cases.
<Addendum> The case wasn't total shit for being a couple hours into the game. So extra points for geript.

Also, I am not defending geript. You keep asking me about geript. I simply answer.

Why is Geript making cases alignment indicative.
It isn't. I just don't want to lynch geript atm. I have 0 clues about geript his allignment.

Is DP scum?
I am not lynching DP. Scum got 6 nk next 2 nights unless crazy vigi happens n1. Let's see if DP is still alive day 3. I like DP posting as well.


Now ask me new shit. And answer my question. Why didn't you consider the fact that Kush wanted to see you 2 modkilled for posting "..." in the silent period. And why are you so butthurt about that fact? You even voted kush. Rules are Rules.



Here he states when questioned about both myself and geript that he does not want to lynch us? Why would a scum that is trying to fly under the radar take that position on both of us?

I think as scum it would be far easier and more convenient to just side with one or the other and no one would really care. Saying that you don;t want to lynch either draws attention to Koshi and if we read his filter and decide that he is trying to lay low, taking a controversial position just does not gel with that mindset.

Why would scum want to side with one of you two in case;
(1) You are both town?
(2) One of you is scum?
(3) Both of you are scum?


Because when the whole thread is giving out town/scum reads it is a lot more convenient for a scum who is laying low to say. 'Oh X is scum and Y is town', than to say 'I don't know who is scum or town but I don't want to lynch either of them.'

Correct me if i am wrong but i think the only one who gave a strong scumread on either one of you was you?


No i think a few people came out over the course of the day leaning one way or the other.

I dunno dude. Like you could be right, and I clearly don't have the same grasp on reading koshi that you do. But after reading his filter and because of the other stuff I brought up I certainly don't think he is very scummy. He could be lying low. Or he could just not really be trying. I can't tell which so I think a Koshi lynch would be a bit of a gamble honestly.

Town Koshi:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427569&user=Koshi
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424349&user=Koshi

Scum Koshi:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047&user=Koshi

In addition to what he has exactly posted, which one of the games would you say mirrors his play in this game the best?


Reading. I'll be right back.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:41 GMT
#1251
God damn rayn linking me 23 page koshi filter.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:46 GMT
#1258
On September 22 2013 23:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On September 22 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote:
On September 22 2013 23:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Last night I had the suspicion that Zaragon was mafia because most of his posts were filled with fluff and didn't come to a solid conclusion. Obvious-town ObviousOne was being a boss and pointing it out. Still, I don't think I've seen anything from him that indicates a strong stance on someone or anything that has an edge to it. His posts feel constructed to me but don't do a whole lot.

Anyone have a town game of Zaragon I can read?

Zaragon is signed up for the latest newbie
and has liek 60 posts under his name

Maybe he has played on other forums?


CC, take on the yamato situation that unfolded like 2-3 pages ago.

Does his absence affect that read?


I'm gutreading Yamato as town. He doesn't always use the best logic in the world, but when he's town it shines fairly brightly. I don't really know what you mean by his absence affecting my read.


He dropped 1 massively crafted post. Then left without waiting to see the responses or flesh things out via interaction with the thread. That in itself is scummy IMO.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 14:49 GMT
#1260
On September 22 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 22 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 22 2013 23:41 DarthPunk wrote:
God damn rayn linking me 23 page koshi filter.

lol sorry, it was supposed to start from p1 at every game. :D

Oh, i get what you are saying. Don't read the whole filters obviously.
Read the first ~2-3 pages, that's where we are at atm.


Well If that is the case I feel like this game is more like his town game. In his town games he posted many one-liners. in his scum game his posts were generally a paragraph in length and he posted far fewer one liners than his town game or this game.
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