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On September 21 2013 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
@DP
geript is by far the most suspicious person in the thread so far. It's possible he'd acting the way he's acting to get reactions or some such retardation, but unless he says as much and I believe him, I have to assume that he's not playing like a moron and that he's scummy for it.
He has no meta case. He has an observation that he's supposedly suspicious over for meta reasons. I don't care enough to go check out the game because I know from my own experiences with you that you're able to have an amicable opening regardless of your alignment. And the rest of what you've done (aside from saying you want me to tunnel a townie -.-) has read pretty town to me.
As it stands, I'm the most suspicious of geript of anyone who's posted. I basically agree with you but I'm not sure Moron necessarily = scum. I'm also worried about Mocsta and Wave for basically refusing to comment on geript or read that part of the thread. They seem to dismiss it as a squabble and meaningless when it is, in fact, the opposite. I'm not sure how I am supposed to take people seriously when they don't/refuse to properly read people's posts.
It's pretty damn meaningless.
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On September 21 2013 14:10 DarthPunk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 14:01 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:57 DarthPunk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 13:52 Mocsta wrote:@Geript,
[]hr Stop being useless. Since this 30 player game (with no OP filter links) started; approximately 1/3 of the player base has posted. There is no one I want to lynch vehemently with the current information.
Who don't I like? DP and yourself are already on ignore. I dont care if scum or town, its just annoying to read and precisely why I prefer voice > thread currently.The two key people I don't like thus far are Kushmaster and Koshi. You didn't ask for reasoning, so i will comply with the request. That is a bad attitude to have. If people don't want to read don't join in the first place. SMH. How you supposed to catch scum if you don't read the only real thing that has happened so far? Firstly, please TL;DR what this "real thing" is. Cos from a glance is looks like a squabble. Secondly, I have no qualms reading a game. I read 130 pages in 24hrs to catch up GoT. I have qualms reading bullshit. Please enlighten me why it isn't bullshit though. Geript made a meta case on me. He then refused to explain it, or push it. And when he finally did he denied it was a meta case when it clearly was and changed his entire argument. Basically the problem is this: Is geript scummy for the way he approached the case and the way he presents clearly faulty logic hard and very confidently or is he town? Basically. Can you empathise with geripts argument and see yourself as town being so utterly confident in a DP scum read 2 hours into the game based off one post and an irrational and Illogical argument? I'm going to be candid here, at the risk of alienating a ?town? DP for the rest of the game.
(1) I only glanced over those original posts
(2) I am making this reply without re-reading those posts --> Which I do admit sucks a bit.
however
Based on the situation presented, I am likely to assume based on standard play that Geript is likely town.
We all know basic play in this game; scum want to blend in and rarely *CHOOSE* to have that type of pressure on them immediately.
Further, early Day1 play suggests that terrible and candid logic is 9 times out of 10 town. Again, the limelight.
Perhaps late Day1 this can be re-evaluated, but for 2.5hrs into the game. I think this stands.
I mean, by all means, if you can prove Geript likes to be limelight scum Day1, I'm willing to reconsider early too. But my experience with him is that again, this is not the case.
You look bad for pushing it this hard. Bad does not equate to scummy though.
Obviously there is nothing to respond to regarding my PANDAIN observation.
However, why have you only pursued information regarding you/Geript; and left alone my lack of reasoning on Koshi/Kush?
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your pandain observation doesn't mean anything. pandain is not a high volume poster.
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On September 21 2013 14:22 kushm4sta wrote:
your pandain observation doesn't mean anything. pandain is not a high volume poster.
Right...
So you think it is normal for someone to be confirmed present prior to deadline.
And then disappear when its time to play?
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He didn't CHOOSE to be in the limelight is the thing Mocsta, he was trying to get ME to be in the limelight for him. That is DP's ENTIRE contention with geript, and you completely ignore that part of the equation by refusing to look at the posts yourself.
At first, geript was content to nudge me in that direction and then AFK. He literally said he was going to AFK until Sunday Mocsta, HE LITERALLY SAID THAT. But you wouldn't know because you're refusing to read the fucking game.
Now: I wasn't even going to entertain your defense of him Mocsta, but you're twisting things around here and it's being done in a very scummy way: you're reaching conclusions ADMITTEDLY without reading the thread. And you're trying to get people to look ELSEWHERE BASED ON IT, WITHOUT READING THE FUCKING THREAD.
Chrust
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so summary of today
DP and geript have a little pissing contest
VE is cheer leading for team DP
WoS Randomly gets FOSed
Mocsta jumps in thread and starts pissing on team DP
Mocsta trys to piss a little on pandain
kush says stuff no one cares
is that right?
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add "VE pisses all over mocsta" to that list.
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On September 21 2013 14:28 Coagulation wrote:
so summary of today
DP and geript have a little pissing contest
VE is cheer leading for team DP
WoS Randomly gets FOSed
Mocsta jumps in thread and starts pissing on team DP
Mocsta trys to piss a little on pandain
kush says stuff no one cares
is that right?
You forgot to add where you jump in to give a summary post with no reads.
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On September 21 2013 14:25 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:22 kushm4sta wrote:
your pandain observation doesn't mean anything. pandain is not a high volume poster. Right... So you think it is normal for someone to be confirmed present prior to deadline. And then disappear when its time to play?
well i just played with him. He is the kind of person who only posts when they have something to say I think.
He's not the kind of person to spam it up early game with you nubs.
Also maybe he went to sleep or suddenly got busy IRL.. like a million possible explanations.
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You see the problem I have with all these town reads for getting into it with someone straight up is that I, as scum, would and have done that before. It is entirely a null tell.
People need to look at the actual argument and see if it is townie and whether Geript's thought process is a town process or a scum process.
Scum can easily just pick a fight day one. It is much harder for scum to actually provide a solid argument when picking that fight. Therefore, less weight should be placed on the action and more weight placed on the thought process of the argument.
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I have played with pandain about 10+ games and hes a massive spammer. Mocstas observation was something legit imo.
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I am drunk, but;
kush, where i the meta case you promised?
Mocsta can you make some sense plz?
I dont want to lynch DP or VE, they aret owj,
If toyu are town geript, pick it upol.
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Not much to go on without wild speculation on people's meta connections and personalities.
From posting interval as it relates to content, I like Geript less. He was pushing a little too hard too fast for either pure pressure or getting anything out of his read if he had one, while still posting at methodical, relatively slow intervals.
He did get to DP to be able to read him very early but it feels mostly like pushing buttons and corresponding reactions to me. Barring any history of reckless responses as scum on DP's part for context, DP feels most likely town. Geript could possibly be scum with one overplayed line DP picked up on, then feeling like he was forced to keep going somewhat like he was. However, it's still more likely to be town on town to me so far.
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On September 21 2013 14:31 Coagulation wrote:
I have played with pandain about 10+ games and hes a massive spammer. Mocstas observation was something legit imo.
well i just played with him and he is the opposite of a spammer. low count/high quality posts.
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On September 21 2013 14:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He didn't CHOOSE to be in the limelight is the thing Mocsta, he was trying to get ME to be in the limelight for him. That is DP's ENTIRE contention with geript, and you completely ignore that part of the equation by refusing to look at the posts yourself.
At first, geript was content to nudge me in that direction and then AFK. He literally said he was going to AFK until Sunday Mocsta, HE LITERALLY SAID THAT. But you wouldn't know because you're refusing to read the fucking game.
Now: I wasn't even going to entertain your defense of him Mocsta, but you're twisting things around here and it's being done in a very scummy way: you're reaching conclusions ADMITTEDLY without reading the thread. And you're trying to get people to look ELSEWHERE BASED ON IT, WITHOUT READING THE FUCKING THREAD.
Chrust
Lets do this, bish.
(1) DP in his TL;DR never spoke about you.
Stop being a narcissist like DP.
(2) So you are saying (whilst wearing your heart on the sleeve) that early Day1: it is expected for scum to be controversial and then just say, im fucking off?... Chrust (sic) back to you..
(3) Nice. If you are going to accuse me of "twisting things around here and it's being done in a very scummy way"; then at least explain it.
This reads as an outright smear campaign. Justify this pl0x.
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Thought process does not ever catch me as scum. I will not move my vote period.
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geript is town, final.
Who are you viting ofr geript?
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On September 21 2013 14:33 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He didn't CHOOSE to be in the limelight is the thing Mocsta, he was trying to get ME to be in the limelight for him. That is DP's ENTIRE contention with geript, and you completely ignore that part of the equation by refusing to look at the posts yourself.
At first, geript was content to nudge me in that direction and then AFK. He literally said he was going to AFK until Sunday Mocsta, HE LITERALLY SAID THAT. But you wouldn't know because you're refusing to read the fucking game.
Now: I wasn't even going to entertain your defense of him Mocsta, but you're twisting things around here and it's being done in a very scummy way: you're reaching conclusions ADMITTEDLY without reading the thread. And you're trying to get people to look ELSEWHERE BASED ON IT, WITHOUT READING THE FUCKING THREAD.
Chrust Lets do this, bish. (1) DP in his TL;DR never spoke about you. Stop being a narcissist like DP.(2) So you are saying (whilst wearing your heart on the sleeve) that early Day1: it is expected for scum to be controversial and then just say, im fucking off?... Chrust (sic) back to you.. (3) Nice. If you are going to accuse me of "twisting things around here and it's being done in a very scummy way"; then at least explain it. This reads as an outright smear campaign. Justify this pl0x.
No VE picking up on geript trying to get VE to push me for him is THE KEY to reading geript IMO. And is the thing that changed my read on geript from idiot town to possible scum. I posted this already. But yeah, you didn't read the thread obviously.
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