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On September 22 2013 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well he seemed WAY more involved in the discussion in that game than he is in this game. That's....really odd. Marvy baby what do you make of that?
I think using a newbie game for meta comparison purposes to a full-sized normal (his first?) is pretty silly regardless of alignment. And when the differences that exist are 'objectively' (funny word in mafia, you know what I mean) more likely to come from mafia, then it draws even less weight.
Anyway, if I were certain enough about it I'd have my vote on him. The stilted tone and hypocrisy (as Umasi pointed out) could also be from an awkward townie, again, dipping his feet into a full-size normal.
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On September 22 2013 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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The only thing i found odd in FT's post was that he was trying to appear like he was contributing. Then said he has not yet caught up in thread and never followed it up in any way. It's now been 1,5 hours since his post. He should have caught up already.
Yes. But increasingly these days I see this as a bloody annoying-tell rather than a mafia-tell. Stutters is a well known proponent of this as town in fact 
Maybe it's a promise to contribute and somehow can't because he's mafia? Obviously broken promises and shit are bad, but also as mafia you tend to try to follow through on simple things like reading and making some bullshit posts.
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I know rayn. But my reply to you is contained in my quote right there. ^_^
It's bad, but there's nothing else to say about it right now. It's not even that alignment indicative. What will be alignment indicative is what he finally posts.
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I've no idea what to think about Koshi. His first posts yesterday seemed a little tame, and his pursuit of VA is... weird? Would he do that as mafia? It seems counterproductive, and Koshi isn't stupid I don't think.
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I do wish people wouldn't randomly go after coag btw. Makes it hard to get a read on people doing so. Why go after coag when people KNOW he's going to be at least some form of useless, especially on Day 1? Are the people pursuing him really able to say "this is NOT town coag on day 1"? If not, why is the vote on coag, or why is coag on the shit-list other than for being useless?
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On September 22 2013 07:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:59 marvellosity wrote:
I do wish people wouldn't randomly go after coag btw. Makes it hard to get a read on people doing so. Why go after coag when people KNOW he's going to be at least some form of useless, especially on Day 1? Are the people pursuing him really able to say "this is NOT town coag on day 1"? If not, why is the vote on coag, or why is coag on the shit-list other than for being useless? He invites it by being unrepentant about it regardless of alignment. Haters gon' hate.
mainly thinking about Sentinel brought this on. As someone else noted, Sentinel's original catch-up post was a bit blergh.
Then he comes up with this reasonably structured, also kinda catch-up post, ending in a vote on coag. The coag vote seems so weak as shit to me.
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yeah I agree with you actually. It's also pointless to go after Vayne for the moment.
Sadly "anti-town" doesn't equal "mafia" on TL Mafia anymore.
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On September 22 2013 08:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:59 marvellosity wrote:
I do wish people wouldn't randomly go after coag btw. Makes it hard to get a read on people doing so. Why go after coag when people KNOW he's going to be at least some form of useless, especially on Day 1? Are the people pursuing him really able to say "this is NOT town coag on day 1"? If not, why is the vote on coag, or why is coag on the shit-list other than for being useless? I have no knowledge of Coag's meta.
then I suggest you acquaint yourself with it.
Go read his Day 1 filter of, say, Fruity Mini Mafia. Actually I was calling him mafia at the end of that cycle. But if you can tell me why coag-here is significantly different from coag-there, then all power to you.
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On September 22 2013 08:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 22 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
What if Vayne doesnt break character rayn? lynch. And thats why you pile votes on VA. VA too proud he doesnt get misslynched as town to not break character. If he stays in character he is scum. But you peepz dont get it... so w.e.
This game is too large to play games like this imo. I don't know why you'd even try. Since when do people massively bandwagon someone for roleplaying a post?
Just weird Koshi.
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How is that looking at the meta I directed you to going, Sentinel?
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On September 22 2013 18:42 FirmTofu wrote:
As much as I dislike DP's play this game, DP's response to me is making me warm up to him. It is reminiscent of classic town play.
Townies know they are town. Therefore, when people call them scum, they instinctively believe the accuser is "bad" or scum. After all, they are town and they know that the accuser is wrong. This knowledge makes them act in anger and frustration when defending themselves.
Classic thought process: "How could this asshole accuse me? I'm town! I've been playing super pro-town all game and this guy is saying I'm scum? He must be a terrible player or scum."
While DP's anger toward me could be manufactured, it feels rather genuine.
Given DP exhibited this exact same response to at least one other player (geript) and probably someone else I forgot too, why is it enough to give you a townread of him when directed at you, yet it doesn't even register on your radar when he did it earlier in the thread (which you have apparently been reading)?
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Firm/Zaragon are gonna have to make their feelings clear on VE for me, so I can appraise/shout at them as necessary
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oh you're here, Zaragon.
Talk to me about both your FT and VE reads if you'd be so lovely.
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Indeed. I'd rather like an explanation for what, exactly, the difference is to make what seems to be the same thing a tell for the opposite alignment.
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Zaragon, your filter has basically nothing of substance on VE, other than "feels", and "potentially a mafia VE might play this way if both these dudes are town".
Elaborate please.
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On September 22 2013 19:58 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 19:55 marvellosity wrote:
Indeed. I'd rather like an explanation for what, exactly, the difference is to make what seems to be the same thing a tell for the opposite alignment. He said he did it on purpose as a way to read me. Like he was intentionally inconsistent so that he could see if I would pick up on it or not. This was all discussed on the previous page. I don't buy it. Clearly. As I am voting for him.
At the very best that it's extremely stupid. There's a whole thread-worth of material, including plenty of yours to be looking at, and he feels the need to indulge in some silly 'game' to read your alignment.
Why???
Almost anything else is better to do than that.
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Pretty annoyed that kush said that coag is a decent vote actually. Especially as votes on coag has already been talked about by the thread.
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*frowns at Zaragon for disappearing when I asked him a question*
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On September 22 2013 22:39 Mocsta wrote:
yam needs to join the newbie league
learn to play.
i already addressed your pittance of a "case" against me.
P.S. the chairman vote is terrible.
Stop this Mocsta. This is shit. Stop it.
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What niggles me about the Chairman Ray thing is this.
Do mafia really come into the thread with a post that basically blatantly says "I'm not gonna make reads today"?
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