EPTI'm not seeing what makes him scum, basically, but if there's a post that I missed that sums up the argument against him I'll read it, could really find anything specific in yamato's filter, just lots of @mocsta stuff.
/afk for a bit eating dinner
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I'm not seeing what makes him scum, basically, but if there's a post that I missed that sums up the argument against him I'll read it, could really find anything specific in yamato's filter, just lots of @mocsta stuff. /afk for a bit eating dinner | ||
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On September 23 2013 14:17 WaveofShadow wrote: I would like us to consolidate on probable vig targets by tomorrow afternoon. High content/quality posters should not be vigged. I am not concerned about Geript atm. what do you mean probable? | ||
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I was like 'why do we need to predict who's going to get shot :|' lonemeow comes to mind as a good vig target imo, since he's just a giant question mark atm with his martyr. | ||
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HI BLAZINGHAND PLEASE DON'T LIE TO ME THIS GAME :<<<<<<< THAT HURT MY FEELINGS | ||
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Add lonemeow to the list | ||
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On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Signups 1: DarthPunk 2: raynpelikoneet 3: WaveofShadow 4: gumshoe 5: yamato77 6: kushm4sta 7: Koshi 8: ObviousOne 9: Chairman Ray 10: FirmTofu 11: Pandain 12: Cephiro 13: Mr. Cheesecake 14: Xzavier 15: Coagulation 16: Stutters695 17: Onegu 18: Zenatsu 19: [UoN]Sentinel 20: VisceraEyes 21: VayneAuthority 22: geript 23: Risen 24: LoneMeow 25: marvellosity 26: Zaragon 27: Mattchew 28: Umasi 29: justanothertownie 30: Mocsta Town players remaining=24 Scum Players remaining=6 Scum KP=3 (#of scum/2 rounded up + Show Spoiler [Flips+Roles] + + Show Spoiler [Replacements] + 1: Malongo 2: deconduo 3: iamperfection 4: Blazinghand 5: strongandbig + Show Spoiler [Obs] + 1: goodkarma 2: heavenz 3: ahswtini 4: Obzy and coag has been vocal about shooting Vayne. what assumption did he make? | ||
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scum kp=3 | ||
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(if people want to ask me questions I'm semi-around, writing up a lab report, will check in occasionally) | ||
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On September 25 2013 06:23 FirmTofu wrote: I was just reading Umasi's filter and I'm having a bit of trouble following his thought process. We see an OMGUS vote on Sentinel. Not really alignment indicative because town are guilty of this just like mafia are. Then he gets pressured by rayn about his vote and slowly backs off, explaining that his vote was simply the best of the options available to him. Note how the confidence in his reads has drastically diminished over the course of these two posts. Then, near lynch, we have these kinds of posts. He doesn't take a stance on the two candidates that are most likely to be lynched, as if he knows both are town and doesn't want to risk changing his vote and being called scum for it. He also is now suddenly way more confident that Sentinel is scum, despite being dissuaded by rayn at one point in the thread. :/ I don't like Umasi at all. quickly responding, almost finished the write-up but am addressing this now why is my confidence in my reads diminishing scummy, and why would I push sentinel near the deadline if I knew you two were town? That would imply Sentinel is ALSO town, so what would the purpose of me doing that be? And if both were town, why would I want to change my vote to go onto one of them, if sentinel (the third frontrunner iirc) was who I was currently on? This is operating the assumption that all three of the lynch candidates are town, btw. Why is me not taking a stance on Chair or you at that time scummy? ~and even so, I was pretty clear with my stance on Chair, I say in pretty explicit terms I thought he was town. Mocsta asked me about it, in that post you quoted. But it's not like I could come up with a convincing defense for him, because he constantly signed his own death warrant with the way he was posting. And if I can't actually convince myself that he's town using logic, I probably shouldn't try defending him at all. What else makes me scum, or is it solely not being on either of the two wagons at the time of lynch? /semi afk again | ||
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On September 24 2013 12:25 Risen wrote: No you aren't. Unless a doctor claims the save you could easily just be saying you got protected and you're scum. Doctor don't claim, though... that would be stupid. On September 24 2013 15:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Or what about a Sentinel lynch? The "confirmed town" yamato is calling for a Sentinel lynch. Any thoughts on that dude? Like...The Cephiro thing is so boring to me. Your post about him was nothing but a huge summary of his play, which even contains consideration for possible townie-mindests. You never draw a conclusion that he's scum, simply state that you're not adverse to lynching him...but by denying these other wagons you're saying you ARE adverse to lynching those players. Why? On September 24 2013 18:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Since when has yamato been confirmed town? Also, what do you guys think of Cheesecake lately? He's been under the radar for a while, only showed up once for night 1 to sheep yamato. On September 25 2013 05:58 deconduo wrote: Wait unless I'm missing something here, how is yamato confirmed? From what I understand, and coag hasn't been that forthcoming with information, coag claimed a vig shot on yamato, and yamato claimed he was protected. Why does that make yamato town? All it means is that coag is semi-confirmed, and a doc saved yamato. Why would a scum lie about being protected, it makes sense for yamato to claim the protection regardless of his alignment. chronologically, those are the four posts that questioned yamatos confirmed-townness (I think that's all) On September 25 2013 07:12 FirmTofu wrote: The issue is not that you backed down on Sentinel. It's that you were suddenly back on Sentinel afterwards even though you had previously backed off. What caused this unnatural shift? I'm also not operating on any assumptions. I know both lynch candidates were town(Me and Ray). I don't know Sentinel's alignment, so that is the only variable here. The purpose of you voting sentinel is so that you aren't subject to being scrutinized for your stance on the lynch. Sentinel's alignment doesn't really matter here. You know Sentinel isn't going to get lynched so you don't have to worry about the repercussions of his flip. You could be bussing your teammate or just putting your vote on town. Doesn't make much of a difference why would I switch onto firmtofu, if my read on chairman was not something I logically could back up and my strongest scumread was Sentinel? | ||
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On September 25 2013 07:54 FirmTofu wrote: Snipping your quote. why would I switch onto firmtofu, if my read on chairman was not something I logically could back up and my strongest scumread was Sentinel? I'm not saying you should've switched onto me. I'm saying if you were backing off of Sentinel, why didn't you start looking for other targets? You sounded pretty convinced by Rayn that Sentinel didn't have a strong chance of flipping scum. Shouldn't you have started looking for other targets? Why didn't you talk more about Ray and why he isn't a good lynch? Why didn't you comment at all on the wagon on me. There are so many things I would've expected a townie to do in your position that you did not do.[/QUOTE] At what point did I make seem like Rayn convinced me Sentinel was town? I don't even think that he was defending Sentinel, just asking me to clarify what I was saying. i have to go to class, will be back in a few hours. | ||
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On September 25 2013 07:55 FirmTofu wrote: EBWOP: Ignore the formatting of my last post. I derped. At what point did I make seem like Rayn convinced me Sentinel was town? I don't even think that he was defending Sentinel, just asking me to clarify what I was saying. I have to go to class, will be back in a few hours. | ||
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what else in my filter is scummy? Or is it just me not defending an illogical townread or attacking someone other than my largest scum read? | ||
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On September 25 2013 11:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: This is what I got through skimming since I'm catching up and posting on short notice: JAT fluffs like a mofo, Zaragon seems to be shoving all his fluff and I guess consolidating it? Both are generally blending in well and not taking the thread anywhere. FT made a pretty bad case on Zaragon so maybe that's why I'm having trouble seeing the red and green features. But I don't like either one. JAT is consistently doing nothing while Zaragon has disappeared. Maybe slightly redder JAT. Umasi's getting better. He's at least trying to contribute to the thread in a good way now and actively discussing. Kush... I never have any idea wtf kush is doing. With mattchew I've seen him make sense before, kush has pretty much been this way in every game I remember. Including smurf. He's stopped making the modicum of sense he was at the beginning of D1 (the thread police stage), so I have nothing. I'd say out of these four I would go after JAT first. I'm going to go look at Mattchew, I haven't looked at him since I brought up his weird pseudo-doc claim thingy I appreciate the sentiment that I'm getting better, but I've far from been discussing things more actively than I was, nothing has really changed. I was just addressing FTs thoughts on me. He seems to be focused on me being scum, and I don't really care to respond to him anymore, but he's present enough (as are you) to make me ~relatively happier? Although both his scumread of me and your (kind of?) townread of me seem pretty unexplained or poorly reasoned. | ||
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Lots of my townreads are voting for him, and I agree with many of the points brought up against him. he's surpassed firmtofu and sentinel. | ||
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