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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 27 2013 16:47 GMT
#4746
Well regardless of pro-town or not. Its too much effort to bus Mr.CC, when there are much simpler methods to achieve the same goal.

Thats a fact

As for the thoughts, they are summarised at the end for lazy ppl like yourself. But this is theory crafting, and can be discussed post-game. I got the feeling most ppl arent reading them anyways (so you could have merit)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 00:42 GMT
#4794
On September 28 2013 04:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Mocsta, maybe it is somewhere in your abomination of a filter but could you tell me precisely why the hell you felt the need to counterclaim a doctor when you stated that you were unsure about the lynch before again?
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:30 Mocsta wrote:
Correct, I was completely unsure between LoneMeow/Cephiro. And I had advocated prior in the thread that I had additonal scum reads on Geript + Zaragon -- several times might I add.


On phone so can't find my quote

Basically.
Lone didn't vote ceph
Geript voted cephiro at an opportune time
Lone then votes ceph and claims doc
Cc notices no info on yam in line filter

I make a decision line fake claimed, so fake claimed to lynch him

At the time Geript was a scum read, and cc was a town read
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 04:00 GMT
#4795
On September 28 2013 07:30 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 07:25 kitaman27 wrote:
What have I gotten myself into -_-

Probably will take me a couple days to catch up fully.

Somebody give me major points of interest if you don't mind.

Also, do we have a full day or a few hours left in the cycle?

Risen, VE and mattchew are scum. Mocsta is town despite a bonehead play to lynch a claimed doc with confirmed heal over Ceph. Ceph is a scummy coin flip despit Marv 's 100% scum promise. VE is scum. Risen is Scum. Mattchew is scum. Coag is confirmed town. That's about it.

Can you please outline more on mattchew.

I don't recall you supporting my case in him.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 05:55 GMT
#4801
On September 28 2013 14:51 iamperfection wrote:
moc a lot of your points against mr cc revolve around his reaction to decondu and they reek of confirmation bias and taking stuff out of context.

where you say cc is fucked and other points regarding decondu looks like the same analysis that i put in when decondu came in. I thought he looked extremely bad yet you twist to say well he must be defending cephiro. You fail to account for maybe he is just reading decondu at the time which is clearly evident with the point you made about this post

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=192#3822 This post is clearly reacting to deocondus entrance to the thread. You had similar points revolving around decondu and you took as a defense of cephiro where i see it as just an attempt to analyze decondus entrance to the thread.


On top of that most of your points dont you say yourself are either non tells or dont say anything about aligment. Your main revolves around decondu and his reaction to it and you took it as a defense which i think is just wrong as it was just a reaction.

You cant just take posts out of context what is happening in the thread at the time is a big part of trying to figure out alignments. Since mr. CC had similar reactions to myself it leads me to believe he is town.

1. him finding decondu scummy for the way he came in voted and left

2. the immediate reaction to the claim to go look if it is legit ( remember mr cc would know lone was telling the truth if he were scum)

On top of that Mr. CC caring about the lynch and the fluid and open dialouge he was having throughout it points to him more likely to be town. Hard for most scum to do that.
I didnt mind his reaction yesterday, so i was actually thinking the same thing(s) today myself.

Its something I will mull over after the Cephiro lynch outcome.
I'm still pretty sure Stutters can be lynched safely though.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 10:49 GMT
#4804
On September 28 2013 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta i know you should be around. What do you think of iamp's statement regarding what i said in my last post?

My opinion hasn't changed from before.

I will re-examine once Cephiro has been lynched.

I don't think I have confirmation bias as per what iamp said, because:
(1) I had a probable town read on Mr.CC until the post in question; &
(2) My posts build up suspicion, as more information comes about; which tie in directly to my suspicion

Having said that though; I am still making an educated deduction based on limited information, so it was brash for me to say Mr.CC is 100% scum.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 11:13 GMT
#4806
On September 28 2013 19:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, problem is, like i said on D2, that there were no people contributing towards the lynch, when it mattered.
For the first 36 hours, there were ~7 people who were actively trying to find out a lynch/defending themselves. They were (on top of my head) me, you, marv, yamato, FT, JAT and more or less a couple of other dudes maybe.

That's really crap. In the last 8h every single lurker chimed in and suddenly there was some LoneMeow lynch that came out of nowhere. I am not saying it was a bad lynch in the first place, i am saying it was a fucked up lynch because of the timing and how the lynch went down. IT was easy for scum to "contribute" towards the lynch at that point, i am more interested in looking into people who were absent in the first place and came along "discussing the lynch" when the wagons were already set up.

Can you see what i am trying to say Mocsta?

I can see what you are trying to say;

and I eagerly await your analysis.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 11:19 GMT
#4809
On September 28 2013 20:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got some if you need it.

Mainly iamp and CC.

I was hoping with the preamble you made;

the content would be more than "iamp" and "cc"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 11:20 GMT
#4810
On September 28 2013 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Which side are you on Mocsta?

The same side you know I am on.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 12:06 GMT
#4812
On September 28 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really think iamp and CCare scum, i wanna see if you can find that out too.
Mark my words on D4.

Are you reading the thread?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 12:15 GMT
#4815
so channeling oats

"whose scum"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 12:24 GMT
#4817
On September 28 2013 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
cc iamp stutters cephiro pandabearguy VE.
A couple of other contenders if i am wrong on someone.


On September 26 2013 11:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LoneMeow (13): Mattchew, Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, Coagulation, ObviousOne, VisceraEyes, Pandain, Cephiro, Stutters695, Mocsta, iamperfection, Mocsta. Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, deconduo, Umasi, Pandain, Zaragon


So if we look pre-fake claim.

Mattchew, Mr.CC, VE, Coag, OO, Pandain, Cephrio, Stutters

& Post-fake claim.

Mocsta, iamp, Mr.CC, VE, deconduo, Umasi, Pandain, Zaragon



5/6 scum voting one person, pre-fake claim.

Yeah... im going with a no here.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 12:37 GMT
#4821
On September 28 2013 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look at actions, not WIFOM.

Explain me the actions of iamp + pandain then.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 29 2013 00:29 GMT
#4836
On September 29 2013 09:21 Mattchew wrote:
I dont think ceph is scum, but im stupid, so ill remain stupid

Voting stutters

Premonition?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 29 2013 00:35 GMT
#4837
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391615&user=Mocsta&view=all

Zaragon

My first scum game, where I hammered a townie last minute day1

End post should contain qt links
.



Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 29 2013 03:28 GMT
#4860
On September 29 2013 12:08 Umasi wrote:
awesome, believe in marv and he shall deliver.
I think we should lynch mocsta tomorrow

what has marv got to do with lynching me? He was never pushing me as a primary lynch.

This is pretty fucking scummy to do.

Explain NAIO!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 29 2013 03:28 GMT
#4862
On September 29 2013 12:13 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 12:10 iamperfection wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Role List


This is a semi closed setup, the roles are known but the exact number is not. Not all of these roles may be present in the game.


Townie
You are a Townie. While you don't have any special powers, it is your voice and your vote that will win the game. The town will depend on your analysis to find the mafia.

Doctor
You are the Doctor! Once per night you may PM me the name of someone you'd like to protect during the night and they will be able to survive 1 KP sent their way. Sadly your hospital has rules and you can't protect the same person two nights in a row. If you successfully save someone both you and your target will be notified.

Parity Cop
You are the parity cop! Instead of receiving "Innocent" or "Guilty" your targets will be compared for Alignment. On Night 1 you will receive no result. Every night after, the new person you investigate will be compared with the person you investigated the prior night. If they are all of the same alignment you will receive "Same" otherwise you will receive "Different". Unfortunately due to your low budget, your investigations can be fooled by a framer or godfather.

Vigilante
You are the Vigilante! You've seen this town go downhill from the mafia influence and you're determined to do something about it. You have one bullet which you may fire during the night by PMing me the player you wish to die. If your shot is blocked by a Doctor, your bullet will be refunded. If you are roleblocked your gun will not fire and you will not lose your bullet.

Roleblocker
You have the power to prevent anyone from using their role during the night phase. You may only use your ability once per night phase, and you cannot roleblock the same player twice in a row. Your target will be notified they have been roleblocked regardless of whether they have a role.

Godfather
You are the ringleader of your little band of villains. Due to your many years in the family business, you have become adept at hiding your crimes and will appear as a townie to parity cop checks.

Framer
You are the framer! Each night you can visit someone and frame them so they will show up as scum to parity cop checks. Unfortunately, you can't frame the same person two nights in a row since.

Is this correct besides the missing of vanilla mafia


Yes.
Is Cephrio Vanilla Scum or not?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 29 2013 03:31 GMT
#4865
JAT,

What do you make of Umasi and his reluctance to add any iota of value to this thread?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 29 2013 03:35 GMT
#4867
@Pandain

Why aren't you making any posts like this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429897&currentpage=43#849

Thats from 24hrs ago in the first 24hrs of a game, and this game with over 100hrs played, you have not delivered a single post to this quality.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 29 2013 03:50 GMT
#4876
On September 29 2013 12:47 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 12:28 Mocsta wrote:
On September 29 2013 12:08 Umasi wrote:
awesome, believe in marv and he shall deliver.
I think we should lynch mocsta tomorrow

what has marv got to do with lynching me? He was never pushing me as a primary lynch.

This is pretty fucking scummy to do.

Explain NAIO!

believe in marv and he shall deliver referring to cephiro.
lynch you 100% because of policy imo.
(policy referring to your retarded doctor fakeclaim)

so is actually the scum team then.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 29 2013 09:40 GMT
#4922
On September 29 2013 12:35 Mocsta wrote:
@Pandain
Why aren't you making any posts like this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429897&currentpage=43#849

Thats from 24hrs ago in the first 24hrs of a game, and this game with over 100hrs played, you have not delivered a single post to this quality.

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