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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 25 2013 23:04 GMT
#3714
On September 26 2013 07:56 marvellosity wrote:
OO, people who don't give a shit won't start giving a shit because of a policy lynch or two.

Lynch ceph.

He is mafia.


You should really look into my posts a bit closer. I really don't understand how you think I'm scum that much. Is it simply because you expect a much higher level play from me (even due to my quality-of-play slightly suffering due to aforementioned issues), or do you just think I'm blatantly lying all the time? Or is it based on what is left after your reads on other people? If that's the case, you should re-read some filters.

I can't see you pointing out any inconsistencies or such in my play that would be proof towards me being scum. In that case, why do you think I am scum so hard? You really need to re-evaluate your read on me. If you truly think I am scum, a player of your caliber should be able of delivering more than that.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 25 2013 23:11 GMT
#3724
People I have a strong townread on: DarthPunk -> strongandbig, ObviousOne, Mr.CC
People I have a light townread on: yamato77, marv, Zaragon
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 25 2013 23:16 GMT
#3729
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

me, why?

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.


I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 25 2013 23:22 GMT
#3738
On September 26 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

me, why?

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.

I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?

I don't want to wait till deadline.


I've claimed my alignment, that should be enough. For someone that has been defending me to some extent, I think you're a bit too eager to find out my role.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#3748
On September 26 2013 08:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Why am I a strong townread for Cephiro?


You provide good reasoning for most of your actions. You bring up the possibility you could be scum by your own accord:
On September 22 2013 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
How do you know I'm not bussing coag/LM?

Look at aperture d1. Felkyr and alakaslam were my punching bags.


In general, the way you participate in discussion and the questions you ask give me a towny feel. I can't call you out for not being around more looking at my own activity, but I am satisfied with your posting so far.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#3830
On September 26 2013 09:04 deconduo wrote:
Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates.

Cephiro:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?



Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:22 Cephiro wrote:
I've claimed my alignment, that should be enough. For someone that has been defending me to some extent, I think you're a bit too eager to find out my role.


These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do.

#Vote: Cephiro


How is role-claiming in any perspective a good thing? Regardless of what I claim, you won't be able to make anything out of it. If I claim VT I could be:

1) Speaking the truth
2) Fake-claiming as a blue hoping to be able to use powers still
3) Fake-claiming as scum

If I claim a blue role I could be:

1) Speaking the truth, outing a blue for scum NK / roleblocks for a possible mislynch
2) Fake-claiming as VT to draw roleblocks/NK
3) Fake-claiming as scum
4) Fake-claiming as another blue role (unlikely)

If those two lines are your only reasons voting for me, it makes you look incredibly bad in my eyes.

On September 26 2013 09:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
One of Cephiro and LM is scum. And if Cephiro is town, this mysterious man...


Why does one of me and LM have to be scum?
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 00:25 GMT
#3831
EBWOP: Also voting for LoneMeow now, as it doesn't seem any other lynch is going to happen.
Was taking a snack. Seems some weird spreadsheet claiming shit happened.

##vote LoneMeow
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 00:33 GMT
#3837
On September 26 2013 09:30 Koshi wrote:
Voted cephiro together with my scumread rayn. I just pressured rayn so hard he had to lead me to a teammate.

Gn all. 4.realzies.


... Are you kidding me -_- First you try to defend me, then you try to rolefish, and now you vote for me and have some absurd theory of me and rayn being scumbuddies?

Koshi.

I am disappoint. Very disappoint. Your play makes not enough sense for a townie.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 00:43 GMT
#3845
On September 26 2013 09:39 Mocsta wrote:
Its not. The vote swing is too intense; and giving scum opportunities to control the vote.

so GTFO


^ Actually makes a fair point, as questionable as the move is. At the moment I think LoneMeow is the one up for lynch, but it wouldn't require more than one vote on me, or away from LM to make me the one up for lynch. I'm really having a bad feeling about this lynch in though... Scum is probably roaming around happily in the corners, laughing at these lynches that are happening.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 01:03 GMT
#3867
I could get on a decond lynch if we get enough people on that, but not on a Zara lynch. I'm still leaning towards him being town. Especially as he brings up stuff like this which people have seemed to completely ignore:

On September 23 2013 11:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Here's a votecount for you cats

Chairman Ray (6): yamato77, Koshi, Mocsta, kushm4sta, marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, [UoN]Sentinel, geript

Tough shake for Chairman Ray. He's fish food in


Now please tell me why we aren't voting for any of them?

Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 01:08 GMT
#3879
On September 25 2013 06:52 yamato77 wrote:
Cephiro is someone I think could be mafia. Will look into shortly.


On September 25 2013 21:28 yamato77 wrote:
I'm glad that Marv and I are on the same page about Ceph/Matt. I feel good about today's lynch.


A whopping 15 hours later with some other targets in-between, you haven't provided any own opinions as for why I should be lynched today. For someone that is as close to confirmed town as one can be, why are you using your status so badly? The only thing you have provided as your reasoning for my lynch so far is:

On September 26 2013 06:17 yamato77 wrote:
I'm voting Cephiro, BTW. Out of all the lurky fucks who are useless, I think he's the one who could be much more useful if he was actually town.


I just can't understand this coming from you. That's all, and yet you're pushing for my lynch so hard. That doesn't make any sense. If you're really a townie, you need to pull your head out of your ass and consider some proper targets.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 01:15 GMT
#3886
On September 26 2013 10:04 yamato77 wrote:
Cephiro, if you're town, you and I are going to have a chat.

You're going to give me your read of VE, and I'm going to decide whether you're worth saving or not.


Noticed this post of yours after I had posted my last message, so EBWOP:

I currently have him pegged as neutral. I haven't been able to get a convincing read of him into a direction or another yet. Mainly because while he provides many good points and reasoning for his somewhat differing reads, he also doesn't pressure his scumreads hard enough in my opinion. It seems like he is concentrating more on questioning the reads of others and defending people he considers town. (Which is not a bad thing, but I don't understand why he isn't pressuring his scumreads more.)
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 01:45 GMT
#3945
On September 26 2013 10:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Do I think Ceph is scum? Yeah probably. Doesn't really contribute anything, and he's been defending since he got on. My point is that someone like Ceph is already disadvantaged because even if hypothetically he's the shittiest townie in the world, everyone still think he's scum, plus all the catching up he has to do.


I've caught up to the thread -_-. And I'm going to be so pissed if it's in vain. I have been working to contribute as much as possible. As a townie about to be lynched, would you not defend yourself? I don't understand how you are claiming I don't contribute anything because I missed D1 and had to catch up during N1. I've been trying to up my play as much as I can in the time available, but votes like yours are starting to make me feel like it's pointless. Be busy irl for a cycle, work your ass off to catch up, get nominated as a lynch candidate. Yeah. Fucking awesome.

On September 26 2013 10:34 Mocsta wrote:
Between ceph and lone I prefer ceph for scum
His response feels like he is holding back.

I'm really annoyed with lone absence. So quite stuck.

Again: Why does me or Lone have to be scum? It seems like many people are thinking one of us has to be scum, yet almost no-one considers the possibility that the lynch could be between two townies today.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 01:52 GMT
#3964
That claim, what the fuck!? I'm not sure if I should believe it or not x_x Then again if he IS the town doc it's better that I get lynched instead of him, and I'm not leading by many votes.... fucking claims like 10 mins before deadline? Counterclaims anyone?
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 01:54 GMT
#3974
I just don't get why he would claim that if he really is the doc and wasn't the one getting lynched. There's no counter-claim but it's a really short timing window for anyone to react on. Fucking fuck. This is horrible -_-
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 02:18 GMT
#4036
OH MY GOD ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME T_T

Two blue lynches in a row. This is as hard as an anal rape can get Q_Q

Seriously people you need to start looking at some proper lynch targets. Today's lynch was between townies and and seeing at the results we've had I'm not wondering at all even if the first one would've been between all townies as well.

This really couldn't get any more worse.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 02:24 GMT
#4047
On September 26 2013 11:16 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 11:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm done.

you're just as liable for this stupidity

we should have lynched ceph


I don't agree that I was a good lynch option but it would indeed have been better for me to die rather than a doc. :/

On September 26 2013 11:19 geript wrote:
That's the setup. I'd put money on it. Cops should fully ignore any checks they get.


... Really? We've got people that are close to confirmed townies that can be used at the other end of the parity check. Assuming there is a cop or several left, they can very well get pure results and not hit the same target as framers as long as they pick wisely. This is just retarded advice. They'd be no more useful than VTs in that case.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 27 2013 00:31 GMT
#4542
I'm starting to understand why people feel frustrated in some games when I pressure them. It's fucking annoying to have several townreads tunneling on me nonstop for the worst reasons ever. And then there are people like kush roaming free all over the place.

Anyway, if someone has questions for me, ask now and I'll reply asap. I probably won't be around at the lynch and this may be a last chance to get insight into my actions, reads and opinions.

If there are any non-braindead townies around, that is. Unlike these certain few people that are happily herding a bunch of sheep while most of their reasoning is: "I think he's just lying."

That scumhunting. Irl trust issues with people or something? Fucking annoying I say. Anything I say is just "You're lying scum, I don't give a fuck." to most of the people.

D1 we lynched a blue. D2 the lynch was between two townies and a blue got lynched. This shouldn't happen.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 27 2013 00:40 GMT
#4547
On September 27 2013 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
D1 we lynched a blue. D2 the lynch was between two townies and a blue got lynched. This shouldn't happen.

To clarify, are you saying that after leaving now, you won't be back for a full 48 hours?[/QUOTE]

Nope. If I'm alive tomorrow, I'll be completely free later in the evening. So in ~18 hours or so.
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