EPTKush is town.
Omg
I feel dirty.
TL Mafia LXII: TL Noir - Page 153
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Kush is town. Omg I feel dirty. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Unlike you to miss such a thing. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:41 ObviousOne wrote: This is the first time ever I think I've been able to say this with 100% confidence. Kush is town. Omg I feel dirty. you're gonna have to explain this good for me. | ||
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justanothertownie
16317 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:41 iamperfection wrote: also i will do what i want so scummy | ||
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justanothertownie
16317 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:41 ObviousOne wrote: This is the first time ever I think I've been able to say this with 100% confidence. Kush is town. Omg I feel dirty. Based on what exactly? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote: you're gonna have to explain this good for me. Hurndall3 smurf mini (might have to double check the spreadsheet at the end in GMarshal post) It's the same Kush Kush unplugged | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Interesting. Because Sentinel brought up a very good point. This is what you said about him: The bolded part. How can you bring this up against him on D2? This happened on D1, there were a lot of players suspicious of yamato at that time. Sentinel in fact did bring up his suspicions on yamato earlier on in his posts. Why do you never bring up VE as scummy on D1? Because to me this looks like that you have picked up a player and then start finding out reasons why he is scum. What exactly are VE's "extremely strong" contributions after D1? I feel like his contributions have been even more weak than on D1... I wasn't satisfied with Sentinel's justification of his Yamato voteswitch, or any of his voteswitches for that matter. First of all, he never explained why Coagulation was no longer his top scumread. Then, he is just far too willing to drop his Umasi read in favor of voting yamato. I don't think he explained that move in enough detail. It feels like he's hiding information. I did bring up VE as scummy on Day. Read my filter. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:43 ObviousOne wrote: Hurndall3 smurf mini (might have to double check the spreadsheet at the end in GMarshal post) It's the same Kush Kush unplugged This is nowhere near good enough, OO. "he was uninvolved one other time as town so I am 100% he is town here" is not right. And yes I followed Smurf in detail so it's not like you're referencing something I didn't see. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
What are your thoughts on rayn? I'm getting an odd feeling from his posts. I want to know if you're feeling the same way. | ||
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justanothertownie
16317 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:43 ObviousOne wrote: Hurndall3 smurf mini (might have to double check the spreadsheet at the end in GMarshal post) It's the same Kush Kush unplugged How long since this game was played? Kush played some really good gaes recently. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
I had only read to page 40 when I had a scum read on VE. So my read changed after page 40, not after Day 1. | ||
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justanothertownie
16317 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:45 marvellosity wrote: This is nowhere near good enough, OO. "he was uninvolved one other time as town so I am 100% he is town here" is not right. And yes I followed Smurf in detail so it's not like you're referencing something I didn't see. This goose is happy with his answer for today. Tough shit, I guess. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Him and Moc are my active poster question marks in general really. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:41 marvellosity wrote: rayn, FIrm did bring up VE, in more than one post he mentioned him as scummy. Unlike you to miss such a thing. Yes, at the start of the game, never after this: I don't like voting when there is still information to read. While VE is my strongest scum read at page 40, he may not be at page 58. Which is apparently @ page 40. Then FT does not come back before the lynch. This is his next mention about VE: Then we have people like VayneAuthority, kush, and VE. These are people that are capable of strong town games, but are currently either just trolling or posting with a subdued interest. I would say that this group of people becomes more easy to read as the game progresses, hence they aren't the best vig shots. And now VE has apparently made some extremely strong contributions. I want to know why his read on VE has changed. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:48 FirmTofu wrote: @rayn I had only read to page 40 when I had a scum read on VE. So my read changed after page 40, not after Day 1. AND I JUST PROVED YOU WRONG! ##Unvote: ##Vote: FirmTofu | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On September 25 2013 06:51 marvellosity wrote: Fine OO, but don't expect anyone to take your read seriously if that's what it's based on. Trying to solve the game before end of night. You can use my filter for reference when I get shot. You're welcome. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On September 25 2013 00:13 Mattchew wrote: So yamato is town, thats no fun Did I ruin your singular scum read by being so townie I got protected N1? Should tell you something about how you're playing this game. On September 25 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote: @Rayn: Regarding - Mattchew OP links are NOT updated. Mattchew filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=Mattchew Im just going to list things that stick out to me whether pro/con and then summarise + Show Spoiler +
Overall. I have a few problems with him (1) Tries to insinuate stutters is scum through others, but provides no insight of his own. In fact, he doesnt even probe stutters directly to ascertain his alignment. Exacerbated when he confirms he didnt have a scum read on yamato when voting him... but lists stutters on his scum team (His vote should have been on stutters !!) (2) When speaking about chariman_ray opener; the phrasing is really odd. Its almost as if he knows the guy is town.. i actually cant pinpoint my issue with it, its just really odd. (3) I have played voice mafia with this guy twice now. As town, matt is easily able to establish himself. He speaks freely and with confidence, is to the point, and doesn't listen to bullshit. I'm not getting an iota of that this game. I actually can't see how this guy can be town. His actions are very scummy/deceitful, and I can't picture the motive for a town to keep asking about stutters, without providing personal insight, or querying stutters directly. Im actually really happy with this guy to be voted. And willing to vote him above anyone else I discussed prior this cycle. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mattchew For the record, this case is very good and why I am reconsidering my townread of Matt. Him being exceptionally useless and not at all attempting to prove that he is town is not what I would expect from Matt, if he were town. Him having bad reads isn't necessarily a tell, because he accused me of being mafia in Voice once when I was literally the most active player in the game and drove discussion. Officially on the fence about Matt. If he were town, I wish he would do something useful. On September 25 2013 01:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Can I just say how annoyed I am that the "confirmed town", yamato and Coag, have had nothing to say today? SOOOOO salty. On September 25 2013 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote: The fact that there are only 3 kills weighs on my mind. The fact that I was suspicious of Coag, and that he's claimed one of the three kills last night. The fact that Yamato hasn't done shit since the day post except try and leverage his position. Yes, iamp, I do have reason not to believe him. Fucking ass. VE bitching about me not having played so far today is fucking ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is this sentiment that he doesn't want to confirm me as town. However, I don't know that scum VE would continually attempt to ruffle my feathers so much. He likes to placate townies more than butt heads with them. He accuses me like every game we're in together as town, so its whatever. On September 25 2013 05:58 deconduo wrote: Wait unless I'm missing something here, how is yamato confirmed? From what I understand, and coag hasn't been that forthcoming with information, coag claimed a vig shot on yamato, and yamato claimed he was protected. Why does that make yamato town? All it means is that coag is semi-confirmed, and a doc saved yamato. Why would a scum lie about being protected, it makes sense for yamato to claim the protection regardless of his alignment. Deconduo has also attempted his best this game to argue that I'm not town, which is amazing. He's done nothing else, notably. It's unfortunate that this is what is typical of his town play. Not a good lynch. As far as Sentinel goes, he's still the best lynch of all time. His explanation of why he voted for Ray is ass, and even if it wasn't ass, is so far removed from the actual action that it's meaningless. Suddenly he realized I was town because he thought Ray was scum and I couldn't be bussing? WTF FT's case on Umasi is not as impressive as people think. Umasi is on my "not looking at for a while" list that includes Pandain/Zaragon/JAT as people that aren't posting much but are probably town. FT's other reads this game have been unimpressive. However, I do like that he self-analysed his own meta. That's not something I would expect out of scum. Cephiro is someone I think could be mafia. Will look into shortly. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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