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On September 23 2013 20:06 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 20:03 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 19:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Finally got some decent reads. :D
Firstly, I want to address the vigi situation.
As a vigilante you want to shoot the people who are currently useless and are unlikely to become useful in the future. I'll go through a few people and address the value of shooting them.
We have recent replacement inactives in Malongo, Deconduo, and Blazinghand. These guys deserve some time to catch up to the thread. Their deaths would not serve a higher purpose in the short-term.
Then we have people like VayneAuthority, kush, and VE. These are people that are capable of strong town games, but are currently either just trolling or posting with a subdued interest. I would say that this group of people becomes more easy to read as the game progresses, hence they aren't the best vig shots.
Tier 3 are people who are sitting in the semi-lurker category, but have some posts of substance. I would include Pandain, JAT, Mr.CC, Zaragon, Sentinel, Umasi, Stutters, and a few others I can't remember in this grouping. I believe that this group probably holds the majority of the scumteam. These are people that want to stay just above lurker territory so as to avoid suspicion. I think most of these guys would be good vig shots as long as some discretion is used.
Finally you have the completely useless. These are people that aren't trying to get better and aren't going to play better when asked. They are either hardcore lurking or posting little to no substance. Examples include Risen, Coag, and Lonemeow. Anyone who is in this category is a decent shot from a vig perspective, but is less likely to be scum than the previous category I mentioned. Where are you're decent reads. This post is just a rehashing of the previous conversation in the thread about vig shots and lurkers. Basically mirroring exactly what was said. I can't help you if you don't keep reading.
I did. It was not compelling.
FIXED!
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On September 23 2013 20:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 20:11 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 20:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 20:08 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
I really cannot be bothered to comment on all the people who have claimed vigi and who are claiming to use their shot on x and y.
Pretty much what will be will be. Really? you are just going to sit back and let geript vig me? I would expect you to point out how dumb that would be. But you don't care? Don't be so dull, DP. Christ. What is dull about it? I believe he is a Vig. I believe I am getting shot incredibly stupidly, I obviously can't do anything to get geript out of his moronic tunnel, So I need other people to do it for me. I am legitimately concerned about getting shot. And I don't know why you wouldn't be concerned about me getting shot. I think geript is total boss. He is a parity cop, he pretends to be shooting you. So scum wont kill/rb geript, and wont kill you. Total boss town play.
I did consider something similar. But then his attacks on me felt to genuine.
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On September 23 2013 20:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 20:11 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 20:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 20:08 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
I really cannot be bothered to comment on all the people who have claimed vigi and who are claiming to use their shot on x and y.
Pretty much what will be will be. Really? you are just going to sit back and let geript vig me? I would expect you to point out how dumb that would be. But you don't care? Don't be so dull, DP. Christ. What is dull about it? I believe he is a Vig. I believe I am getting shot incredibly stupidly, I obviously can't do anything to get geript out of his moronic tunnel, So I need other people to do it for me. I am legitimately concerned about getting shot. And I don't know why you wouldn't be concerned about me getting shot. If someone says they're going to bathe in shit, then me telling them it's a bad idea probably isn't going to stop them bathing in shit, because it should be obvious enough already.
Sigh. People listen to you marv. You are usually very good at pointing out that people are about to bathe in shit and then convincing them that bathing in shit is a bad idea and should be avoided.
Earlier when I spoke to you you said you didn't want to talk about it because it wasn't relevant at that time.
Well it is relevant now and you still don't want to talk about it. In fact you seem to be ok with it happening. Doesn't make sense.
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On September 23 2013 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
The world doesn't revolve around you DP. This is the most uninteresting conversation I've ever had in a game of mafia.
My arm might fall off it's so fucking boring.
You scum marv?
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I'm going to read marv's filter. If mocsta and rayn are around can you do the same? I feel that marv has been VERY apathetic this game and hasn't really played a townie game.
I wouldn't want to lynch an asset like marv tomorrow. But on day three maybe. I think marv could be scum.
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On September 23 2013 20:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 20:20 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
The world doesn't revolve around you DP. This is the most uninteresting conversation I've ever had in a game of mafia.
My arm might fall off it's so fucking boring. You scum marv? yeah, and I'm triple stacking you tonight.
I would love that.
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On September 23 2013 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 20:17 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 20:13 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 20:11 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 20:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 20:08 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
I really cannot be bothered to comment on all the people who have claimed vigi and who are claiming to use their shot on x and y.
Pretty much what will be will be. Really? you are just going to sit back and let geript vig me? I would expect you to point out how dumb that would be. But you don't care? Don't be so dull, DP. Christ. What is dull about it? I believe he is a Vig. I believe I am getting shot incredibly stupidly, I obviously can't do anything to get geript out of his moronic tunnel, So I need other people to do it for me. I am legitimately concerned about getting shot. And I don't know why you wouldn't be concerned about me getting shot. If someone says they're going to bathe in shit, then me telling them it's a bad idea probably isn't going to stop them bathing in shit, because it should be obvious enough already. Sigh. People listen to you marv. You are usually very good at pointing out that people are about to bathe in shit and then convincing them that bathing in shit is a bad idea and should be avoided. Earlier when I spoke to you you said you didn't want to talk about it because it wasn't relevant at that time. Well it is relevant now and you still don't want to talk about it. In fact you seem to be ok with it happening. Doesn't make sense. DP, look at what geript did in Aperture. "I'm a motherfucking town vote rigger! Therefore i'll draw every single vote on me on D1 by playing stupid and i'll execute BH (who was town) just because". In case geript is town and a vigilante you are not helping yourself by telling him how retarded he is, because by doing that he will 100% shoot you no matter how wise/unwise that is. Do something else instead. I have not seen much scum reads/analysis from you this game, and i honestly think that's a bit worrying. You did enter shitfests with geript/FT, then called them both scum and voted for FT. Who else do you think is scum?
Yeah. I think marv could be scum. I'll post a thorough case on him by deadline. It is hard to get marv lynched so it will be a lot of work.
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On September 23 2013 20:26 geript wrote:Hey, I had good reasons to execute BH. They were wrong tho 
Then they were not good reasons. Christ, when you vig me I hope to god you don't say you had good reasons for it.
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On September 23 2013 20:28 marvellosity wrote:
I do miss the traditional DP-tunnel.
Yeah, this is not even close to that cutie.
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On September 23 2013 20:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 20:26 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 23 2013 20:17 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 20:13 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 20:11 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 20:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 20:08 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
I really cannot be bothered to comment on all the people who have claimed vigi and who are claiming to use their shot on x and y.
Pretty much what will be will be. Really? you are just going to sit back and let geript vig me? I would expect you to point out how dumb that would be. But you don't care? Don't be so dull, DP. Christ. What is dull about it? I believe he is a Vig. I believe I am getting shot incredibly stupidly, I obviously can't do anything to get geript out of his moronic tunnel, So I need other people to do it for me. I am legitimately concerned about getting shot. And I don't know why you wouldn't be concerned about me getting shot. If someone says they're going to bathe in shit, then me telling them it's a bad idea probably isn't going to stop them bathing in shit, because it should be obvious enough already. Sigh. People listen to you marv. You are usually very good at pointing out that people are about to bathe in shit and then convincing them that bathing in shit is a bad idea and should be avoided. Earlier when I spoke to you you said you didn't want to talk about it because it wasn't relevant at that time. Well it is relevant now and you still don't want to talk about it. In fact you seem to be ok with it happening. Doesn't make sense. DP, look at what geript did in Aperture. "I'm a motherfucking town vote rigger! Therefore i'll draw every single vote on me on D1 by playing stupid and i'll execute BH (who was town) just because". In case geript is town and a vigilante you are not helping yourself by telling him how retarded he is, because by doing that he will 100% shoot you no matter how wise/unwise that is. Do something else instead. I have not seen much scum reads/analysis from you this game, and i honestly think that's a bit worrying. You did enter shitfests with geript/FT, then called them both scum and voted for FT. Who else do you think is scum? Yeah. I think marv could be scum. I'll post a thorough case on him by deadline. It is hard to get marv lynched so it will be a lot of work. Seems you've already made your mind up. From "marv could maybe be scum" to "I will post a thorough case" without any legwork in between. Interesting, no?
Not really. I thought you could be scum a while ago, but held back because it is tedious fighting with you all the time. But this game you just seem to give far fewer shits than I would expect. Like. I could read your filter a few times and change my mind. Not saying it is impossible.
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Rayn what do you think of marv? How engaged do you feel that he has been? Have you read hapa's case from GSLIII?
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On September 23 2013 21:20 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 21:13 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn what do you think of marv? How engaged do you feel that he has been? Have you read hapa's case from GSLIII? I'm going to attempt to shut down your case right now, if you're going to use meta. I guess you can take it or leave it, but I probably won't say anything else on the matter. When I play scum, I try pretty hard to fake 'emotional investment' in town, to varying degrees of success. In this game, it's been pretty clear I've been trying to remain emotionally uninvolved as far as possible. Now, perhaps this is a new style of scumplay that I'm trying - I've decided that being cold and analytical will give me the best scumresults. If you believe this then there's not a lot I can do. Simplest and correct explanation is that I'm town, trying to keep emotionally stable and on an even footing as much as possible, and that this isn't my first scumgame ever where I'm actively trying to be UNemotional.
Yeah, i'm not talking about you being unemotional. Clearly you are emotional (Risen) this game. I am talking about how engaged you seem to be in the game and in scum hunting in general. Anyway. You don;t have to defend youerself until I read you properly. I may not think you are scum after that anyway.
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God I am sick of yamato. He is constantly a dick to me over the course of several games and voice mafia. Seriously I am just about done playing at this point.
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On September 23 2013 21:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 21:49 DarthPunk wrote:
God I am sick of yamato. He is constantly a dick to me over the course of several games and voice mafia. Seriously I am just about done playing at this point. You should probably filter yourself before you complain about what yamato has said about you here, which is 10x as mild as some of the things that you said. And also, Sentinel has been added to the shitlist. It's not so much that he changed his mind, but the manner is just awful. The same content goes from "nothing looks scummy" to "he is the best chance to flip mafia today" with nothing in between. There's nothing to indicate why the massive change.
I don;t mind it in one or two games but it has been every single game. Like. I say rude shit, but at the start of a new game it is a clean canvass. Yamato has just been dick mode for ever.
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On September 23 2013 21:56 marvellosity wrote:
yamato's not being a dick, and if you genuinely think what he's doing now is crossing some line, then yes, you should probably stop playing mafia, because he's not been unfair or overly harsh.
Yeah. I probably should. It's just a build up of yamato going at me every game of forum and voice mafia I have played in for like 6 months
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I'm going to ask for a replacement. Im done with mafia. GL town.
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On September 23 2013 22:04 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 21:57 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 21:56 marvellosity wrote:
yamato's not being a dick, and if you genuinely think what he's doing now is crossing some line, then yes, you should probably stop playing mafia, because he's not been unfair or overly harsh. Yeah. I probably should. It's just a build up of yamato going at me every game of forum and voice mafia I have played in for like 6 months I did not call you mafia in Les Mis. You WERE mafia in Catch 22 I don't even remember other forum games I've played with you in that time frame.
You did it at the start with perfection. then catch 22, then for a while at the start of Persona. And all the voice mafia games don't help. And then this retarded geript tunnel on top of everything else. I'm just not having fun anymore.
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On September 23 2013 22:05 marvellosity wrote:
Let DP cool down, there's no point arguing about whatever there is between you two.
Hopefully he'll come back with a fresh head and continue playing.
Until then there's no point talking about it.
Nope I'm done with mafia. maybe i will come back when vigi's don't tunnel you from your second post onwards and say they are killing you night one repeatedly all game.
I either get shot or called scum at the start of every game and it is boring.
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I've asked for a replacement so hopefully MZ can find one. Otherwise he can modkill me and save geript the trouble.
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On September 23 2013 22:18 marvellosity wrote:
If you've genuinely asked for a replacement, then stop posting please.
Will do.
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