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On September 23 2013 15:20 Mocsta wrote:
I'm actually more than happy to comply with ve request to die.
Martyr is not alignment indicative
Esp if clarity_nl
But this is VE we are talking about and he is town. Scum won't let him live. (well, as scum I let him live as cop till endgame so we could mislynch him HAHA) But in general scum won't let him live. And I am telling you he is town. This is what he does as town when accused for what he perceives to be no valid reason.
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On September 23 2013 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
Btw
If ve is town for martyr
Where does lm fit?
VE is town not for matyring. But because he is sulky when being called scum. I think LM should be vigged. Along with kush, Risen, and the other lurkers.
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On September 23 2013 16:22 Mocsta wrote:
I would think kush should be replaced with VA on that list.
Read kush's filter and then read Stutters case on kush. Then think of the last two games of his where he clearly gave a shit enough to be night killed. Then come back and tell me Kush is giving a shit this game. If you can do that then I can re think kush. Up until that point I think kush is likely to be scum.
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On September 23 2013 16:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 16:22 Mocsta wrote:
I would think kush should be replaced with VA on that list. Read kush's filter and then read Stutters case on kush. Then think of the last two games of his where he clearly gave a shit enough to be night killed. Then come back and tell me Kush is giving a shit this game. If you can do that then I can re think kush. Up until that point I think kush is likely to be scum. He actually got misslynched last game (golden sun), while he came off a very good town game in Persona. Dnu about Kush tbh. Wouldn't shoot him.
Oh ok. But yeah. He has the ability to give a shit about the game and this game he clearly doesn't.
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On September 23 2013 18:07 Mocsta wrote:
Marv.. I detect issues between u and risen in the scum qt, no?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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On September 23 2013 18:04 marvellosity wrote:
I don't give a crap what he crumbed. What goes through someone's mind when they're a total noob to purposefully play scummy?
To avoid the nightkill they're going to obviously draw in their grand noobiness?
Also, could the vigilante please kill Risen? He's playing like a cunt, he's ruining the game by signing up and not playing. What kind of cunt purposefully tries to ruin the games of others? Fuck off and don't sign up if you're not going to play.
Marv, why so angry at risen and not at all the other useless lurkers?
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Risen is a very good vig shot.
FT also.
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On September 23 2013 18:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:25 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 18:04 marvellosity wrote:
I don't give a crap what he crumbed. What goes through someone's mind when they're a total noob to purposefully play scummy?
To avoid the nightkill they're going to obviously draw in their grand noobiness?
Also, could the vigilante please kill Risen? He's playing like a cunt, he's ruining the game by signing up and not playing. What kind of cunt purposefully tries to ruin the games of others? Fuck off and don't sign up if you're not going to play. Marv, why so angry at risen and not at all the other useless lurkers? like who?
Liek there are at least 5 players who haven't posted a full page of filter.
Pandain, Onegu, Cephiro, Lone Meow, Vayne Authority I guess some have been replaced. I just want to know why you are mad at risen so bitterly and not at useless lurkers in general.
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On September 23 2013 18:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:24 Mocsta wrote:
actually, my read on rayn has nothing to do with the koshi push.
that's alignment null.. in my opinion he could push u like that as town or scum.
I don't care if u think my play I'd bad. its co pletely different playing day1 to replacing in.
when u replace, u can instantly analyse the thread.
being here day1 means I have to generate convo... man, I wanted yo lurk this game, but after the shitfight, someone had to step up.
if it wasn't clear, my first post with seals was written before joining the game. Dont understand why you think that rayn is 100% town if his 70 post towards me are total null. People like yamato, those are 100% town.
Yamato is not 100% anything.
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On September 23 2013 18:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:35 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 18:29 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 18:25 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 18:04 marvellosity wrote:
I don't give a crap what he crumbed. What goes through someone's mind when they're a total noob to purposefully play scummy?
To avoid the nightkill they're going to obviously draw in their grand noobiness?
Also, could the vigilante please kill Risen? He's playing like a cunt, he's ruining the game by signing up and not playing. What kind of cunt purposefully tries to ruin the games of others? Fuck off and don't sign up if you're not going to play. Marv, why so angry at risen and not at all the other useless lurkers? like who? Liek there are at least 5 players who haven't posted a full page of filter. Pandain, Onegu, Cephiro, Lone Meow, Vayne Authority I guess some have been replaced. I just want to know why you are mad at risen so bitterly and not at useless lurkers in general. Some of those players just weren't there. Pandain actually looked like he was trying while he was here. Vayne is pretty dickish but hopefully he'll start playing. Risen should know much, much better but he decided to stick around and post one or two one-liners just to troll the town. He was actually here at various points and decided to do nothing. It's... annoying.
Really? you think that Pandain was trying? Even though the hosts massively fucked up the deadline he never came back into the thread at all after I asked him some questions before i went to bed, He didn't vote at the deadline or when the deadline was supposed to be.
Vayne is posting poems in character. And not doing anything.
Both those players should know better. As should Risen.
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On September 23 2013 18:41 marvellosity wrote:
What's the point in this DP?
It seemed really weird to me that you burst out all angry at risen when others have been just as useless and should hold similar expectations in the quality of their play.
But I can kind of understand that you thought him actually being there was the difference. Just seemed odd. Not scummy necessarily, just odd.
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On September 23 2013 18:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:35 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 18:34 Koshi wrote:On September 23 2013 18:24 Mocsta wrote:
actually, my read on rayn has nothing to do with the koshi push.
that's alignment null.. in my opinion he could push u like that as town or scum.
I don't care if u think my play I'd bad. its co pletely different playing day1 to replacing in.
when u replace, u can instantly analyse the thread.
being here day1 means I have to generate convo... man, I wanted yo lurk this game, but after the shitfight, someone had to step up.
if it wasn't clear, my first post with seals was written before joining the game. Dont understand why you think that rayn is 100% town if his 70 post towards me are total null. People like yamato, those are 100% town. Yamato is not 100% anything. 100% town. His last scumgames compared to this. 100% town. The only reason he might be scum is because he found new love in rolling scum because he played voice mafia with you guys or something in those lines.
I agree that this is nothing like his last mafia game. But, to be fair, he didn't actually try in his previous mafia game. So if he WAS trying. Then he could play like this as scum.
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On September 23 2013 18:44 marvellosity wrote:
See above.
Yep. I understand. It is incredibly frustrating.
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Anyway. Going to watch breaking bad. Be back later.
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On September 23 2013 19:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Finally got some decent reads. :D
Firstly, I want to address the vigi situation.
As a vigilante you want to shoot the people who are currently useless and are unlikely to become useful in the future. I'll go through a few people and address the value of shooting them.
We have recent replacement inactives in Malongo, Deconduo, and Blazinghand. These guys deserve some time to catch up to the thread. Their deaths would not serve a higher purpose in the short-term.
Then we have people like VayneAuthority, kush, and VE. These are people that are capable of strong town games, but are currently either just trolling or posting with a subdued interest. I would say that this group of people becomes more easy to read as the game progresses, hence they aren't the best vig shots.
Tier 3 are people who are sitting in the semi-lurker category, but have some posts of substance. I would include Pandain, JAT, Mr.CC, Zaragon, Sentinel, Umasi, Stutters, and a few others I can't remember in this grouping. I believe that this group probably holds the majority of the scumteam. These are people that want to stay just above lurker territory so as to avoid suspicion. I think most of these guys would be good vig shots as long as some discretion is used.
Finally you have the completely useless. These are people that aren't trying to get better and aren't going to play better when asked. They are either hardcore lurking or posting little to no substance. Examples include Risen, Coag, and Lonemeow. Anyone who is in this category is a decent shot from a vig perspective, but is less likely to be scum than the previous category I mentioned.
Where are you're decent reads. This post is just a rehashing of the previous conversation in the thread about vig shots and lurkers. Basically mirroring exactly what was said.
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On September 23 2013 19:56 geript wrote:
So is nobody else find coag's choice of shot weird? I mean, at least he's town then and shit but ugh.
You have no right to be questioning others choice of shot when you plan on shooting me. None at all.
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On September 23 2013 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
I really cannot be bothered to comment on all the people who have claimed vigi and who are claiming to use their shot on x and y.
Pretty much what will be will be.
Really? you are just going to sit back and let geript vig me? I would expect you to point out how dumb that would be. But you don't care?
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On September 23 2013 20:05 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 20:02 FirmTofu wrote:On September 23 2013 20:00 geript wrote:
Ok. See you hon keys after the test.
Tofu. I want an explanation of how you gave me a townread but completely missed all my vig claims. I skipped the majority of your posts because I assumed you were having a shitfest with someone or the other and I wanted to finish catching up as fast as possible. It's a harsh reality, I know. So you just chose to give me a townread after skipping most of my posts? Where's the sense in that?
I read it after. It was not compelling.
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On September 23 2013 20:10 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 20:08 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
I really cannot be bothered to comment on all the people who have claimed vigi and who are claiming to use their shot on x and y.
Pretty much what will be will be. Really? you are just going to sit back and let geript vig me? I would expect you to point out how dumb that would be. But you don't care? Don't be so dull, DP. Christ.
What is dull about it? I believe he is a Vig. I believe I am getting shot incredibly stupidly, I obviously can't do anything to get geript out of his moronic tunnel, So I need other people to do it for me.
I am legitimately concerned about getting shot. And I don't know why you wouldn't be concerned about me getting shot.
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On September 23 2013 20:09 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 20:05 geript wrote:On September 23 2013 20:02 FirmTofu wrote:On September 23 2013 20:00 geript wrote:
Ok. See you hon keys after the test.
Tofu. I want an explanation of how you gave me a townread but completely missed all my vig claims. I skipped the majority of your posts because I assumed you were having a shitfest with someone or the other and I wanted to finish catching up as fast as possible. It's a harsh reality, I know. So you just chose to give me a townread after skipping most of my posts? Where's the sense in that? I read it after. It was not compelling.
er wtf? i quoted the wrong thing
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