Newbie Mini Mafia XLV - Page 8

On August 01 2013 04:54 sc_a.M wrote:
Hey guys!

In my opinion we should not kill anyone today but wait and let the investigators do the investigations. Perhaps there isn't even a SK and then everything would be fine!

On August 02 2013 08:37 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
Also, I think we need to be careful in how we deal with scam...we really should have taken him out instead of reps. Since we misfired on reps, if we go after scam and he is also a townie we are in some pretty hot water, down 4 townies with little to show. I think its important for us to be pressing more active players, then we can deal with him later if we can get on top of the game

On August 01 2013 09:44 Nightcat99 wrote:


RDaneelOlivaw and sc_a.M also do not want to lynch someone day one, what is the reason that you single infil out?

I would also like to talk about lynch every day, the reason we lynch every day is because this is the only method we have to force everyone to take a stand, and by taking this stand and backing them up with your words is the only way we can get reads to find the scum.

If we dont lynch anyone day one , then some one is going to die night one and the only information we will get, is well scum kills people.

I dont think rep is a scum because i know that scum has a private forum with scum friends and a scum coach... if he is scum, someone would have stopped him by now.....

However, i am watching infil RDaneelOlivaw and sc_a.M, i feel that atleast one of them or even two of them can be scummy, there is no reason for the scum team to agree to all voice their opinion on a no lynch but they would definitely jump onto that opportunity.

On August 02 2013 08:53 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:

I'm posting because I got home from work again :p. See my post earlier :p I agree we should pressure him a bit, but I don't think its a good idea to be spending our second lynch on him. Someone said earlier in the thread (you I think)? That you can't get a good read either way on the player if they don't post. So we'd be basically taking a complete shot in the dark. If we are wrong, I think we are in pretty serious trouble (maybe I'm wrong, haven't played this before...) with 3 mafia left, and what, 4 townies and one of the neutrals? I think we would be better off trying to identify more likely mafia that we have reasons for suspecting and trying to nail them down. If we make a strong lynch push for scam what are we going to learn

On August 01 2013 10:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Humph. Well if reps flips red I will be cool. If he flips green, know this: I have stated earlier that my own train of thought looked just like reps if not worse first game. It was because I 100% wanted to survive, rather than hunt scum- because I was tracker, and felt that tracking night actions would make me better prepared to successfully scumhunt.

See this; it hasn't happened yet, but I already feel that if reps flips green holy flare and deus x machina look scummier. Why?

Simple. Reps has given inclination toward being an ideal scum mislynch target.

That being said he hasn't helped things one bit. But I still fosftp for future reference, and yet here is my vote as I agree, we need to lynch.

I am fully aware that I will look scummy right with them if he flips town, because I'll look all knowing and distancing myself from mislynch. I am aware of this fact and still post it. So shouldn't affect your votes!

votes reps

On August 02 2013 08:57 Holyflare wrote:
Does 3/3 problems mean 3 mafia or any assortment ie 2 mafia and 1 neutral?

Mega analysis post coming up by the way, I shall also try and vindicate myself within it for your peace of mind slam.

On August 01 2013 10:54 Umasi wrote:
Rdaneel, if he flips scum none of this matters
but if reps flips town, and we're all just like "well they went balls out to get him lynched so they can't be scum" and they're ACTUALLY SCUM, what did they lose?
You don't get towncred for pushing a mislynch on a townie.
Likewise though, they aren't condemned because of it. You need more than a single key point to say "this guy IS scum because of THIS action" or "this guy IS town because of THIS action". Look at their motivations for doing something, that's equally important as what actually occurs.

On August 02 2013 00:24 infii wrote:


Because he could possibly improve in usefulness with more time and less preasure. And if he doesn't we can still lynch him the next day.
OTOH there is not much information and thought process from the other two. So I'd rather choose the predictable solution than the unknown.



Do I really have to explain every single thing in full detail? When participating in discussions I'd expect from the participants at least to be able to think on their own.
But I'll do it this time just for you:

Here are 3 quick posts from Umasi in which he also votes reps.



So in his second post he states that reps is counterproductive but others should vote him for the reason that he is scum.
And already in the next post he repeats that reps is counterproductive IN ALL CAPS, which is an easy way to increase preasure on someone.
He explains there are LOTS of good reasons to vote him, but interestingly only points out his counterproductiveness.
Then there are serveral more accusations "you have preformed jack", "You are hurting town", "Scum? Sure!, Troll? guess so!". Nothing wrong with that its just He writes it in such a lurid way that I tend to think he is trying to set others up on reps.

So if we presume that Umasi wants others to jump on the bandwagon and lynch reps, that would be a clear sign for mafia. To continue the thought process, reps did get lynched and he flips town, that would further increase the possibility of Umasi being scum.
Any more questions?

PS.: I am not pro reps, it's just that I am more anti sc_a.M/Stimaddict.

On August 02 2013 09:03 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:

Hmmm. I didn't see that he voted no-lynch....that's definitely suspicious.

Why the fuck would he throw himself out there like that though? Given that he doesn't seem to care enough to play the game, it could very well be a total newbie mistake. We had 4-5 people wondering why to lynch day 1 earlier.

Even if he is mafia, it's a totally boneheaded move. Like I said about Umasi's withdrawal before, its a bad move for either townie or mafia.

On August 02 2013 09:09 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
My main point is I think he's just a bad player who has no clue what the hell he's doing. Like me!!! Does he look scum? Yeah, there's definite indications. But most of those were about not wanting to randomly start lynching people day one, which may just be a misunderstanding of his and not due to any scumminess.

On August 02 2013 01:43 DeusXmachina wrote:
Guys DON'T jump ship right now. We have done really well so far. Why would we throw it away last minute? Alakaslam, unvoting reps is either a scummy thing to do by you, or just bad play. You have said yourself that we are even voting reps to get information at this point. Why would you want to throw that away!? We are already learning so much from the lynch. Stick with your gut people. Reps is either scum or a bad townie and I no way will help us win, simple as that. This is a game. Play to win. Reps will bounce back, no hard feelings.

On August 02 2013 09:11 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
Who is indio jones?

You make a good point about not really needing to read the thread though. Interesting

On August 02 2013 09:12 Umasi wrote:
I don't know why someone WOULD like infii, and would happily accept an explanation. Stim can't, apparently, idk why.
and even thne, he spends a lot of that post talking about the implications of reps flipping town, and at the end says that he's anti scam and stim.
Why is he anti stim? Why wasn't he anti Daneel?

Slam, he blatantly says that he won't post analysis on day one because there is not enough information to go on. (this is accepted to be untrue.)
He also spends most of the time in that quote defending himself against a single vote (I think it was just gotard at the time. if reps was on him at the time, doesn't really count as pressure :<)

On August 02 2013 02:44 sc_a.M wrote:
No, well eventually maybe, I think I am going to get killed next day anyway, the reason you kill reps is the same you can apply to me, only reps started posting earlier (and after seeing the reactions I didn't really bother), what he said made sense to me. That you hate him so much gave me a day I guess. Perhaps after night time when we actually have the chance on some clues we can do more than the random lynching that is occuring at the moment. I don't understand why beeing against random lynching, and nothing else you can do day1 is anti town, but what ever.

##vote no-lynch

On August 02 2013 03:07 StiMaDDict wrote:
To be honest, I would be surprised if rep flips red.

As for Alakslam/Umasi, I have a gut feeling that one of them is a scum and it is screw us at the end.
Deus' early aggression and "sticking to his gun" seems pretty town to me.
As for sc_a.M, I would have much liked to see him modkilled.
I don't know who you are..


When I looked at RDaneelOlivaw's filter, he didn't do shit. I will elaborate on further request. (I'm lazy and tired)

On August 02 2013 09:21 StiMaDDict wrote:
@RDO: Two times I said I will elaborate is first on infi, which I stated that I dropped my suspicion on him completely, and on my case on you upon request, which I never did get.

On August 02 2013 03:22 reps)squishy wrote:
I can help win this game much more then RDaneelOlivaw or sc_a.M. I am trying my best to get information out of people to help town win. I know I unvoted and voted other people but I do that to try to get people to talk. RDaneelOlivaw is busy or a lurker so he was my first vote. Usami defended me which I thought I could do my self so I thought he was defending me as a scum cover up changed my mind and went with infii because he seems pretty shady does no come up with answers but excuses.

On August 02 2013 04:06 Zyrre wrote:
Umasi, its an hour left and you simultaneously unvote the 7th vote and say you dont want a no lynch?
Its pretty much guaranteed to be that unless we go with reps.

I dont have a big scum read on him anymore so if thats what you want thats fine, but you cant really say those two things at once.

Newest scum read definately goes to Alakaslam though. Switching to someone that could have been modkilled with no explanation.

On August 02 2013 09:26 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:

:O such high praise :p

On August 02 2013 09:24 StiMaDDict wrote:
What up, Alakaslam?
I am at your service ^^