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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 31 2013 02:49 GMT
#281
There is also no logic flaw between wanting to hear replies to questions and telling him to slow down on the accusations. A more reasonable approach would have been to point out his suspicions and ask the questions, without the flat out balls to the wall scum call.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
July 31 2013 02:50 GMT
#282
@Holyflare: Your thought on Reps' response, please sir.
So far no one has really said anything till now. Making posts is hard when people are just blibber blabbering about nothing. But till now making post are going to be a lot easier after the game has a little bit of suspense.


@Deus: If you are gonna joke, joke. If you are gonna be serious, be serious. Don't mix those two. Also I know that mafia has flavor but use common language if you would be kind, such as town, scum, and lynch.
These technical problems are so pesky. I am tired of the bugs, the human error, and especially the out-of-date software. We need to shape up this business. We need to root out these problems. I understand that mistakes happen, but this is our livelihood we are talking about. Share your annoyance with these problems. Let’s get these issues resolved (the ball rolling).

I can appreciate your enthusiasm Umasi, as well as your insight on some of the characters of this town, or should I say potential problems. I hate bugs in code too. Especially the small, easy to overlook ones like a misplaced semicolon. Who else will chime in? Doesn't out-of-date software just make you want to send a nasty email articulating your frustration to the parties responsible? Also, Alakaslam says he is not a problem. Can he be trusted?

Lastly, if you are voting, announce it in this thread as well.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
July 31 2013 02:51 GMT
#283
What better way to find out if he is scum then to force him to defend himself? Holyflare, I don't have complete knowledge that he is scum. However, I am confident in my accusation, and I am not fearful of being wrong.
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
July 31 2013 02:55 GMT
#284
Okay StiMaDDict I will use common language. I was trying to get people talking about the subject matter. What I wrote was not a joke, I am merely getting involved in the game. Also I voted to lynch reps.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 31 2013 02:55 GMT
#285
On July 31 2013 11:50 StiMaDDict wrote:
@Holyflare: Your thought on Reps' response, please sir.
Show nested quote +
So far no one has really said anything till now. Making posts is hard when people are just blibber blabbering about nothing. But till now making post are going to be a lot easier after the game has a little bit of suspense.


@Deus: If you are gonna joke, joke. If you are gonna be serious, be serious. Don't mix those two. Also I know that mafia has flavor but use common language if you would be kind, such as town, scum, and lynch.
Show nested quote +
These technical problems are so pesky. I am tired of the bugs, the human error, and especially the out-of-date software. We need to shape up this business. We need to root out these problems. I understand that mistakes happen, but this is our livelihood we are talking about. Share your annoyance with these problems. Let’s get these issues resolved (the ball rolling).

Show nested quote +
I can appreciate your enthusiasm Umasi, as well as your insight on some of the characters of this town, or should I say potential problems. I hate bugs in code too. Especially the small, easy to overlook ones like a misplaced semicolon. Who else will chime in? Doesn't out-of-date software just make you want to send a nasty email articulating your frustration to the parties responsible? Also, Alakaslam says he is not a problem. Can he be trusted?

Lastly, if you are voting, announce it in this thread as well.



My thoughts on reps are still undertemined, the posts Deus is referring to are generally all pre-game. IF anything reps has progressed the discussion of the town through this post:

On July 31 2013 07:59 reps)squishy wrote:
So I have read a few TL Mafia games to try to get a grasp of the game. People love lynching people who don't post. What do you guys think of non-posters? Should we lynch them and hang them in the entrance of the town to let them all see that scums are not allowed here?


That was actually a somewhat productive post. It got people talking, a pro-town move if any. He has mentioned being new once in this day so to call that into the open so soon is beyond me, I would have personally waited for another one or asked some leading questions.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
July 31 2013 02:57 GMT
#286
I don't think that his talking about being newbie is a scum tell, since town do it too. it, like, could very well be, but calling him scum only because of this is hasty. I've made the same mistake before (see superfluous in last game) and turned out to be totally wrong, but I don't think it was a stretch. That said, pressuring him is a double edged sword, snce it could just scare him out of the game if he's town, and that LOOKS scummy, because people don't normally think that far ahead.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
July 31 2013 02:59 GMT
#287
(I'm around now StiM, sup)
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 31 2013 03:04 GMT
#288
StiMaDDict, what is your view on reps and also your view on Deus' bold scum call? Also, have you seen anything else suspicious or noteworthy?
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
July 31 2013 03:05 GMT
#289
Reps is in no serious danger. If he is town he should be able to defend himself. The discussion is opening up. We can look at several important factors:
1. Is anyone trying to defend reps?
2. Who is not posting their opinion?
3. What does reps have to say in his defense?
4. I am sure you guys have more to add.

Hopefully we can expose more than just reps intentions.

StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
July 31 2013 03:08 GMT
#290
On July 31 2013 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
My thoughts on reps are still undertemined, the posts Deus is referring to are generally all pre-game. IF anything reps has progressed the discussion of the town through this post:

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 07:59 reps)squishy wrote:
So I have read a few TL Mafia games to try to get a grasp of the game. People love lynching people who don't post. What do you guys think of non-posters? Should we lynch them and hang them in the entrance of the town to let them all see that scums are not allowed here?


That was actually a somewhat productive post. It got people talking, a pro-town move if any. He has mentioned being new once in this day so to call that into the open so soon is beyond me, I would have personally waited for another one or asked some leading questions.

On July 31 2013 11:46 Holyflare wrote:
I am not defending him, if anything his reply to Deus' post made me more suspicious of him. What I AM trying to avoid is a first few hour bandwagon that would deviate from discussions that we could potentially be having to determine who else is town.

Contradiction?
Only discussion that Reps's post brought up was this.

On July 31 2013 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
I am fully in agreement for lynching the quiet people and the non-contributive people as they don't reveal anything about themselves and could either be a bad town (which will screw us over in the late game) or scum. However, we should obviously have more discussion so that we get to know people more beforehand.

On July 31 2013 08:22 Umasi wrote:
well~assuming an apathetic poster is equally likely to be town or mafia
and we lynch all lurkers (IE people who don't care)
we gone be booooooned

On July 31 2013 08:22 Umasi wrote:
so basically, there's no correct way to deal with lurkers imo, you just have to pray they aren't in your game.

Nothing particular useful, in my humble opinion. You stated your opinion and Umasi kind of dismissed it in joking manner. If you think this particular topic was a good starting point for a discussion which is evidence from the fact that you answered it and brought it in your 'defense' of Reps, why did you not keep this on the table and press others to voice their opinion on lurkers?
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 31 2013 03:11 GMT
#291
On July 31 2013 12:05 DeusXmachina wrote:
Reps is in no serious danger. If he is town he should be able to defend himself. The discussion is opening up. We can look at several important factors:
1. Is anyone trying to defend reps?
2. Who is not posting their opinion?
3. What does reps have to say in his defense?
4. I am sure you guys have more to add.

Hopefully we can expose more than just reps intentions.




While I know what your intentions 'are', you have gone about it in the wrong way. You falsely accused someone of repetition when it has happened once, that is not a way to determine peoples alliances unless you mistakingly thought his post-game posts were in the day. It is also 4-5am in Europe so half the people won't reply for another few hours. I will also be off to bed shortly so if anyone has anything to ask me before I go, say it now please.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
July 31 2013 03:13 GMT
#292
On July 31 2013 11:49 Holyflare wrote:
There is also no logic flaw between wanting to hear replies to questions and telling him to slow down on the accusations. A more reasonable approach would have been to point out his suspicions and ask the questions, without the flat out balls to the wall scum call.

Difference in opinions perhaps and I do see where you are coming from, however Deus has already posted his accusation on Reps and voted, there is no 'slowing down.' Also if you wanted to hear Reps' response, then it is quite unreasonable that you are told Deus to 'slow down.' If your approach to scum is pointing out suspicions and asking questions, why didn't you do that to either Reps or Deus?
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
July 31 2013 03:14 GMT
#293
On July 31 2013 07:23 DeusXmachina wrote:
These technical problems are so pesky. I am tired of the bugs, the human error, and especially the out-of-date software. We need to shape up this business. We need to root out these problems. I understand that mistakes happen, but this is our livelihood we are talking about. Share your annoyance with these problems. Let’s get these issues resolved (the ball rolling).


That said, I'm not a fan of this post at all, because it specifically says "let's get the ball rolling"
and then like, doesn't get the ball rolling? Don't command us to do what you want, try to start it up if you are legitimately invested in it.
Moreover,
On July 31 2013 07:43 DeusXmachina wrote:
I can appreciate your enthusiasm Umasi, as well as your insight on some of the characters of this town, or should I say potential problems. I hate bugs in code too. Especially the small, easy to overlook ones like a misplaced semicolon. Who else will chime in? Doesn't out-of-date software just make you want to send a nasty email articulating your frustration to the parties responsible? Also, Alakaslam says he is not a problem. Can he be trusted?

You just like, lightly finger of suspicion alakaslam, post a lot of irrelevant fluff, and tell me you appreciate my enthusiasm.
What did any of that accomplish? It's done even less than reps, from what I can tell.
On July 31 2013 08:43 DeusXmachina wrote:
Also isn't excuses for not posting kind of a scummy thing to do? Basically saying "hey I can't post right now, but I don't want to call attention to myself for not posting, so here is my excuse" Why not just post a lot when you can and don't worry about the times you can't.

Why are you like, fishing for responses here?
All of this combined with your hard stance on someone so early that's really not backed up with a lot of facts makes me vote you. You're owning up to your thoughts, but your thoughts are over the top.
##VOTE DeusXmachina
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
July 31 2013 03:15 GMT
#294
On July 31 2013 12:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 12:05 DeusXmachina wrote:
Reps is in no serious danger. If he is town he should be able to defend himself. The discussion is opening up. We can look at several important factors:
1. Is anyone trying to defend reps?
2. Who is not posting their opinion?
3. What does reps have to say in his defense?
4. I am sure you guys have more to add.

Hopefully we can expose more than just reps intentions.




While I know what your intentions 'are', you have gone about it in the wrong way. You falsely accused someone of repetition when it has happened once, that is not a way to determine peoples alliances unless you mistakingly thought his post-game posts were in the day. It is also 4-5am in Europe so half the people won't reply for another few hours. I will also be off to bed shortly so if anyone has anything to ask me before I go, say it now please.

It seems as if you know Reps' alliance, hmm.. Also if you read Deus' accusation, he did differentiate Reps' pre-game post and in-game post.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
July 31 2013 03:17 GMT
#295
brb showering, back in a few
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
July 31 2013 03:18 GMT
#296
@Umasi:

First of all, UMASI FIGHTING!! *Fangirl scream >.<
Your thoughts on Holyflare, please.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
July 31 2013 03:19 GMT
#297
On July 31 2013 12:05 DeusXmachina wrote:
Reps is in no serious danger. If he is town he should be able to defend himself. The discussion is opening up. We can look at several important factors:
1. Is anyone trying to defend reps?
2. Who is not posting their opinion?
3. What does reps have to say in his defense?
4. I am sure you guys have more to add.

Hopefully we can expose more than just reps intentions.


First, answer those 3 yourself, then we talk.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
July 31 2013 03:21 GMT
#298
Well taking that DeusXmachina has already posted to lynch me Here I am going to remain neutral and NOT lynch him he may be town and, the more town the better right? It is day one and despite him going against me there is no evidence that he scum or an aggressive townsman or something else.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
July 31 2013 03:22 GMT
#299
Umasi before I called out reps there was hardly any valuable information that we could use so far. Putting myself under so much attention is NOT a scum thing to do. Furthermore, my accusation of reps has prompted a lot of discussion. I agree my first posts could have been more meaningful, however that is hardly scum worthy. I even express my disdain of scum in my first post. Furthermore, why is fishing for responses a bad thing? It gets people talking that that is what we want. Finally, I was a little alarmed by Alakaslam announcing his role so quickly.
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
July 31 2013 03:24 GMT
#300
These technical problems are so pesky. I am tired of the bugs, the human error, and especially the out-of-date software. We need to shape up this business. We need to root out these problems. I understand that mistakes happen, but this is our livelihood we are talking about. Share your annoyance with these problems. Let’s get these issues resolved (the ball rolling).


I can appreciate your enthusiasm Umasi, as well as your insight on some of the characters of this town, or should I say potential problems. I hate bugs in code too. Especially the small, easy to overlook ones like a misplaced semicolon. Who else will chime in? Doesn't out-of-date software just make you want to send a nasty email articulating your frustration to the parties responsible? Also, Alakaslam says he is not a problem. Can he be trusted?

I'm rereading these and going what the f..
Need a thorough explanation on this please.

Also, when I ask nicely, do it please, before I get pissed. If you voted on the voting thread, announce it here in correct format. By the way, bold the damn thing.
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
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