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getmoript
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Corazon
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getmoript
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On July 25 2013 01:00 cDgCorazon wrote: Oats, if you're scum, vote for me. Don't accuse me of shit and then not follow through on it. WE ARE NOT DERAILING THE TAA LYNCH. GET OVER HOW AWESOME I AM SOME OTHER TIME!!!!!! | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On July 25 2013 01:00 cDgCorazon wrote: Oats, if you're scum, vote for me. Don't accuse me of shit and then not follow through on it. hehe | ||
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FiveTouch
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On July 25 2013 01:00 getmoript wrote: That's exceptionally disappointing. I was hoping that since I correctly used dick move analysis then I would be able to have some awesome combined two heads are better than one moment. Alas. So what do you think of Tofu? It's reasonably niche, because you have to be careful with its application, otherwise you start going wrong. Gotta be strict with it. I think Firm might be town for reasons already given by myself and austin. Not totally convinced, but I think so. Process of elimination is leading me towards kirby being mafia. ~marv | ||
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austinmcc
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On July 25 2013 00:52 FiveTouch wrote: You end with the simplest and most likely correct explanation being that mafia have a roleblocker and RBed TG because they dumb.Um, it doesn't rely on dumb, it just doesn't rule out dumb and therefore it is an acceptable explanation. Leans heavily on basic balancing of a game as well. If there's a town roleblocker, a town vigi, 1 (2) town cops, and whatever else, not having a scum roleblocker is... icky, let's say. ~marv I agree that if we have all these blues, it's unlikely we don't have a RB. And a GF. But maybe we don't have all these blues. Maybe we have a town and a scum RB. Maybe town RBed the scum RB. I'm not entirely sure whether I find TG town and rbed because scum dumb more likely that "someone claimed odd because dumb" or "some other dumb thing." Yes, scum RBing town TG isn't purely relying on dumb, but you're relying on dumb for the targeting. You need someone to do something dumb for that to be the case. The moment someone has to be dumb to make your assumption work, other assumptions involving "someone being dumb" are just as supported. I don't like that bit, but it's not for now. | ||
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getmoript
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On July 25 2013 01:04 FiveTouch wrote: It's reasonably niche, because you have to be careful with its application, otherwise you start going wrong. Gotta be strict with it. So I have to be strict and firm right? Like you can't go soft on your choice of when to or not to apply it. I think Firm might be town for reasons already given by myself and austin. Not totally convinced, but I think so. Process of elimination is leading me towards kirby being mafia. ~marv Yah, I could buy it. | ||
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FiveTouch
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FiveTouch
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On July 25 2013 01:08 getmoript wrote: So I have to be strict and firm right? Like you can't go soft on your choice of when to or not to apply it. The litmus test is something like this: if you read what someone has done from a scum perspective (say, WoS talking about what the hosts told him he could and couldn't say in Basterd) and it makes you barf in your mouth a little, it's time for dick move analysis. It really has to stir your loins. I think Firm might be town for reasons already given by myself and austin. Not totally convinced, but I think so. Process of elimination is leading me towards kirby being mafia. ~marv Yah, I could buy it. [/QUOTE] Mm. Quite unsure on number 3 at the moment. Got reasonably ok reasons to think most people are town. Probably not going to think about it too much until I see TAA's flip. ~marv | ||
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austinmcc
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On July 25 2013 01:08 FiveTouch wrote: And I the same I generally assume my assumptions and prerequisites are more accurate than yours austin, you know that <3  You honestly should look at the cut down post, though. Just the vote and the reads swapping at the end of the day. | ||
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FiveTouch
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On July 25 2013 01:13 austinmcc wrote: And I the same You honestly should look at the cut down post, though. Just the vote and the reads swapping at the end of the day. You see now, more than anything else, I just want to be proven right on this one small point, lol. Tangeng? I promise I will, at a later time. Feel free to poke me about it at various points, I can always tell you to go away. The main reason is that there are things that pull both ways and I could agonise over it and not come to a satisfactory conclusion. One possible way of solving it is, if town is planning to lynch Tangeng, just get everyone to claim if they're town roleblocker. I'm pretty unworried about outing that as a role when there's other more important ones floating about, and it would be genuinely important and useful information to have when deciding whether to lynch him or not. ~marv | ||
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getmoript
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On July 25 2013 01:11 FiveTouch wrote: The litmus test is something like this: if you read what someone has done from a scum perspective (say, WoS talking about what the hosts told him he could and couldn't say in Basterd) and it makes you barf in your mouth a little, it's time for dick move analysis. It really has to stir your loins. But what if the dick move is too big and instead of a little vomit I start choking? Like is there a specific range of 'just enough' dick move somewhere in between too little dick move and to much dick move? Also, couldn't Dr.H's play be considered for dick move analysis? Or is that too much dick to apply to the move? Or is Dr.H, like me, immune to dick move analysis. | ||
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FiveTouch
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I think DrH could ragequit as either alignment, so it doesn't qualify. | ||
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getmoript
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On July 25 2013 01:04 FiveTouch wrote: It's reasonably niche, because you have to be careful with its application, otherwise you start going wrong. Gotta be strict with it. I think Firm might be town for reasons already given by myself and austin. Not totally convinced, but I think so. Process of elimination is leading me towards kirby being mafia. ~marv I think I already used it slightly this game. On July 23 2013 02:30 getmoript wrote: If you're scum, technically you're not but it's a real shit way to play. 'Dick-move' analysis: You're being a dick, and it makes me not want to play future games with you. Done talking to you; I don't want this thread shit up any further in the hopes that this game is salvageable after you and DrH (and other lurkers?) are gone. -Wave Remember how the original dick move analysis meant to do something so 'borderline cheating'-y that would make you not want to play with that person again if they were using to their advantage as scum? It sort-of-but-not-really applies to Oats here (but as town?) but I just don't know if I'd want to play a game with him anymore regardless. -Wave | ||
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getmoript
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On July 25 2013 01:19 getmoript wrote: But what if the dick move is too big and instead of a little vomit I start choking? Like is there a specific range of 'just enough' dick move somewhere in between too little dick move and to much dick move? Also, couldn't Dr.H's play be considered for dick move analysis? Or is that too much dick to apply to the move? Or is Dr.H, like me, immune to dick move analysis. If DrH is scum, I'd say so, yes. | ||
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FiveTouch
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 Wave - I said something pretty similar to VE about Oats in our QT. | ||
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