A Bluelightz Mafia "The Attack" - Page 6

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 26 2013 17:18 GMT

#1930

Well, I think TG is probably town from cDg's claim. I just don't think a scumteam of the two is particularly likely and if they aren't on the same scumteam then I see no reason for cDg to say that TG is town.

I also subscribe to the belief that 5T is town.
Austin, I'm not entirely sure about... but that's only because I'm terrible at reading him and ive never played a game where he was scum. I'm leaning town.

That leaves Onegu, jjd, and jrkirby.

I'm really feeling Kirby and I think that jjd is the most likely teammate. Onegu is a toss-up. Its hard to tell.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 26 2013 17:21 GMT

#1931

I'm gonna reread the thread and figure this game out. I feel like I am missing something really obvious.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 26 2013 19:19 GMT

#1942

Okay, I read JJD's filter. I no longer think he's scum. His reaction to the whole getmoript claim and accusation is not what I'd expect from scum. He is one of the first votes on TAA. If he was scum, he probably would say something to question getmoript's sanity.

This leaves the following people.
1) cDg
2) jrkirby
3) FiveTouch
6) TanGeng
8) Onegu
9) austinmcc

There are a few things that bug me.
Why would scum rb TG if TG claimed VT?
Why did cDg claim cop and check himself for sanity instead of pursuing a read?

A few relationships I'd like to point out
Austin is basically incompatible with TG being his teammate. He's been attacking TG since the beginning of the game.
TanGeng and jrkirby both think the other is town. They have been buddying each other since TAA was lynched.
Onegu never liked TAA and even made a case against him iirc.
Rereading the thread, TAA seemed almost eager to get TG lynched. Additionally, he said the following before getmoript accused him.

On July 24 2013 06:20 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
I think claiming RB is very much a null tell, it shouldnt change your position on TG too much.

This indicates that he wanted people to stay on the TG wagon. I can only see this happening if TG is town.

Based on these relationships, I think I can remove a few people from the list of scum. Here is the updated list.
1) cDg
2) jrkirby
3) FiveTouch
9) austinmcc
Now, to me 5T has been playing extremely pro-town. I know this is not necessarily alignment indicative, but I highly doubt he is mafia at this point. There are a few things in particular that make me think he is town.

As I said before, I'm a little unsure about Austin. He could be mafia, but he is playing similar to his town games and I echo much of his sentiment on TG. I'm inclined to think he's town as well.

This leaves me with cDg and jrkirby as the mafia team.
My Theory:
cDg claimed cop to save TAA. He thought it would throw some doubt on getmoript's claim and get people to distrust getmoript. After some point, he realized it wasn't going to work and jumped on the TAA wagon. It was a impulsive move.

kirby is scum for his voting patterns and the case I outlined previously.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 26 2013 19:24 GMT

#1944

I also think cDg and TG is a possible scumteam because of the following:
"Why would scum rb TG if TG claimed VT?"
and the fact that cDg says he received town from his check on TG.

Therefore, I think cDg is our best lynch today.
##Vote: cDg

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 26 2013 19:33 GMT

#1946

On July 27 2013 04:25 FiveTouch wrote:
Have you ever seen a mafia counterclaim impulsively within a minute, Firm?

In my personal experience of playing mafia on other sites, yes. On TL, no.

But let's just put yourself in a scum cDg's position for a minute, shall we?

Your teammate has just been accused by a cop claim and you want to save him. What is the best possible way to do this?
Claim cop, right? If you claim cop, the real cop's claim should be called into question! After all, what is the likelihood of having 2 cops on the same team?

I think this is also part of the reason why TAA didn't show up in the thread until a long time after his scumslip. As he was discussing with his teammate cDg about the best way to save his ass, cDg probably told him to lay low while he tested the waters with his cop claim.

If cDg's cop claim worked, then TAA wouldn't need to claim. If the cop claim didn't work, TAA would need to claim.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 26 2013 20:38 GMT

#1948

I don't know. This is what I think is the most likely explanation of the events.

Why would I accuse you if I were scum? That would be really bad scum play, too.
cDg, what do you think the most likely scumteam is? Who is your #1 lynch target?

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 26 2013 20:54 GMT

#1952

On July 27 2013 05:42 cDgCorazon wrote:

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My #1 lynch target is swinging between jrkirby and you. I'm still mulling it over.

Okay, but what pairings? Obviously, you probably don't think kirby is on my team, so who DO you think is on my team? Also, if kirby is scum, who do you think his teammate is?

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 26 2013 20:56 GMT

#1954

On July 27 2013 05:55 cDgCorazon wrote:

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I'm still thinking about it. We have a long time for a lynch so I will continue to think about it.

I will be holding you accountable for this. Count on it.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 26 2013 23:53 GMT

#1956

On July 27 2013 05:51 TanGeng wrote:
Personally, I love the Corazon, TAA, and me scum team scenario. Wouldn't that have been hilarious?

Saving this for endgame for when everyone finds out I'm right.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 00:31 GMT

#1958

On July 27 2013 08:53 Bluelightz wrote:
Austinmcc has had a family event come up so that he has been tied up recently. I will attempt to find a replacement for him (if possible).

Replacement found! He will enter at Night 3!

Does this mean that Austin can't vote? How does this affect the votes needed to lynch?

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 02:22 GMT

#1964

On July 27 2013 10:22 Onegu wrote:
Going over firmtofus filter now, am I the only person who thinks he is town at this point?

Only TanGeng, Kirby, and cDg think I'm scum at this point. So basically all the scummy people think I'm scum. The choice is yours.

I really want to lynch cDg today.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 03:23 GMT

#1968

On July 27 2013 11:32 Onegu wrote:
JJD has you as scum and 5t has switched to you as null. I am going to post all my reads now and my thought process behind them.

Oh yeah, I forgot about JJD. I don't think 5T is serious, though.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 18:15 GMT

#2023

My biggest scumread is voting my second biggest scumread. This game is becoming frustrating.

Could he bussing? Yeah, sure. I'm inclined to think he's not though. One vote could change everything at this point.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 19:04 GMT

#2024

Alright, I gave myself a 12:00 deadline to post this. I've only delayed it this long because I wanted to see where the votes go before my reveal. I was also hoping for the off chance that people would lynch Cora without me having to reveal.

I am the Detective! I have the exact same role pm as getmoript.
Night 1, I checked TAA. Result: Town
Night 2, I checked Cora. Result: Town

This should answer a few questions for you.
Why did I defend TAA with "weirdness" for so long?
Because I got a town check on him.

If you have any additional questions, please ask.

I'm either a naive cop or a defective cop that gets everything wrong.
I'm leaning toward defective. I want to lynch Cora. 3 cops in this town? Highly unlikely.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 19:22 GMT

#2031

On July 28 2013 04:17 FiveTouch wrote:

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So annoying doing this via phone at a party. I believe this claim because we are also a detective, we have red checks on getmo and Cora.

If I were to speculate, I'd say we had 4 cops with a different sanity each. The combination of our and firm's checks means Cora is probably town though

Marv

Oh damn. Okay hold on, I'm going to have to think about this for a bit.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 19:27 GMT

#2036

Okay, so 5T is either paranoid or defective.
I am either naive or defective.
If I am naive, Cora is town/scum.
If I am defective, Cora is scum.
If 5T is paranoid, Cora is town/scum.
If 5T is defective, Cora is town.
Am I correct in this reasoning?

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 19:29 GMT

#2038

On July 28 2013 04:17 FiveTouch wrote:

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So annoying doing this via phone at a party. I believe this claim because we are also a detective, we have red checks on getmo and Cora.

If I were to speculate, I'd say we had 4 cops with a different sanity each. The combination of our and firm's checks means Cora is probably town though

Marv

The problem with this theory is that Cora didn't claim detective. He claimed investigator. I'm like 100% sure Cora is scum at this point.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 19:31 GMT

#2041

On July 28 2013 04:30 TanGeng wrote:
what was your checks?

He already said getmoript red and cora red.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 19:33 GMT

#2043

Host is trolling us

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 27 2013 19:47 GMT

#2045

I'm not going to lynch jrkirby today. I will lynch either TG or cDg. 5T, choose one.

cDg claimed investigator, not detective. He said he was unsure about whether he was a rolecop or an alignment cop. It reeks of fakeclaim.

I think he's the mafia investigator. I think TG is defending him by trying to discredit my claim. I think the mafia team didn't block anyone on night one so they could clear TanGeng by allowing him to claim blocked.

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