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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 23 2013 08:15 FiveTouch wrote: ... where do you get the impression I/we are reading him as town? ~marv You (VE in fact) called DrH, Cora and "someone of the active posters" scum. I asked him about "lurkers". I purposely left Oats out. He did not say anything about it. If Oats was scummy a townie would ask me why i left Oats out of the list. Or are you trying to say Oats goes to the "active posters" section? And yes marv, YOU are calling Oats out. Why don't you guys get your shit together if you are town? You are saying stuff that feels like you are not even playing as a hydra and your reads are all over the place. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 23 2013 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think I mostly started it, although one head of getmoript was on board initially iirc. Just read the progression from TanGeng's vote onwards.Who did make the actual case on TanGeng? On July 23 2013 07:17 FiveTouch wrote: What part of the existing wagon got you all hot and bothered?I did this thing I really don't like...it's pretty stupid looking back, but he was lurking most of the day, and when he was called out for not doing anything he was all "What? Look I'm just trying to generate discussion!" Like, no you weren't dude. No one posts with the sole intent of "generating discussion". People have stuff to say when they post, and he defended himself by saying "Dude don't listen to me, I was just trying to generate discussion" That's ultimately why I assented to lynch TG. That and the existing wagon. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
Vigi him if you have to. Stop wasting time talking to him. For the lynch tomorrow, TG is the only viable choice. He's been scummy all game long and needs to be exterminated. His death would also provide us invaluable information about jrk and DrH, maybe even Oats. As for where discussion should go..., I think we should be talking about people like TAA and JJD, maybe rayn as well. There are people who are currently sitting in the null-scum territory for me and are likely to scumslip when pressured. I'm going to go through their filters and see if I can find some dirt on them. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 23 2013 08:37 FiveTouch wrote: There weren't a lot. You came in either actually or fake pissy that we weren't lynching the lurkers you'd pointed out:I had my own reasons - the fact that there was a wagon played a part of my choice, but the reasons I gave were the reasons for my support of the wagon. -VE On July 22 2013 13:56 FiveTouch wrote: None of the leading candidates are scu.my lurkers.😞 You'll regret making me read filters for tonight. This I swear. On July 22 2013 14:28 FiveTouch wrote: You could lynch him, because he didn't scream townie and was weird.I can lynch TG. Nothing screams townie to me in his filter, the "why leave me off ur list" is completely weird. Can we make TG lynch happen? On July 22 2013 14:49 FiveTouch wrote: Then he was lurking but came back, and hadn't looked townie without specifics, ending with him being nullish.TG was mostly lurking, but came into the thread as soon as his name was called and has since put on a pretty poor show of appearing townie. Admittedly this doesn't exclude him being town. I just find it far more likely to come from scum than town in this instance based on how he's presented himself in thread. Look at his defense - he's not even trying to convince me he's scumhunting. He's appealing to my fear of mislynching, exclusively. Like I said - it's nullish, but I'm leaning scum and we've got an established wagon DocH. Plz vote TG I had gone to sleep, but you came in shortly before the lynch and started from there. I'm honestly interested in more specifics on why he was scummy, because the reasons you gave weren't boatloads and were tempered by him not being townie and being nullish leaning scum. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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getmoript
1016 Posts
I think I've made this clear but I'll say it again. Either TG or Oats tomorrow. Not sure I really care which. List post of our reads coming later tonight before deadline; Geript and I have been mostly in agreement with our reads for the game so whoever posts it shouldn't matter. -Wave | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 23 2013 09:21 FiveTouch wrote: I don't terribly know either. Something different. Well I just don't know what else to say on the matter austin. I gave my reasoning for supporting the wagon, so I'm not really sure what you're after here. -VE | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 23 2013 09:25 FiveTouch wrote: Nah, different stuff about why you voted TG. Not different stuff like not-TG stuff.Well that's what I've been doing this whole cycle - something different - yet you've been harping on my TG reasoning. If you're after "something different" then why not comment on all the "different" I've been doing SINCE then? :/ | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 22 2013 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: I already asked but i'll ask you again. How do these points you bring up make me (or anyone else you mentioned) scum? To show i am serious: ##Vote: FirmTofu Bringing up random quotes from random people with calling them scummy without a follow up or better explanation. Weird pressure vote which doesnt have any stuff in it how firmtofu is scum. Nothing. Just OMGUS. On July 22 2013 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Seems like he is trying to figure shit out. I don't think his vote on you is good though. Anything specific you see there? Also his points calling FiveTouch scum are pretty bad, but i can understand them from town pov. Also, so firmtofu cant make a bad case but this dude can? Double standerds = scum. On July 22 2013 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: And how thae fuck FirmTofu is "the easiest target" in game? getmoript for example has 2 votes. Yeah no, since when has the number of votes on a dude = to easiest target? Why does rayn even give a fuck that firmtofu is the easiest target? Why does town rayn care whether FirmTofu is an easy target or not? Rayn then says that a lynch is always preferable to nolynch for scum, so therefore TG is scum right? On July 23 2013 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fair enough. I understand your pov, i just disagree. :D My eyes are not on TG, at least fully. I'm far more interested in lynching Oats. I don't even know why people voted for TanGeng. For being useless? um nope. Contradictions everywhere. In other news, Cora didnt even address me at all, so he didnt read the thread. He doesnt push anyone. All in all, a horrible opening post. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
"Not screaming townie" On D1, I basically narrow down the lynch to players I will lynch by first generating a list of players I WILL NOT lynch. TG was easily not on the list of players I WILL NOT lynch, but as for why he was demoted from null to WILL LYNCH... "Attempting to APPEAR townie" On July 22 2013 12:43 TanGeng wrote: Tofu, I'm multitasking. Doing two things at the same time. When votes are counted, lynching an active based on evidence is preferable to lynching an inactive. I'm poking the inactives while I still have time. On July 22 2013 13:35 TanGeng wrote: Don't lynch me. It really was trying to stir up some activity. I'm trying to help out town and austin just jumped all over me. On July 22 2013 14:15 TanGeng wrote: Plurality Lynch? Hmm. Might be GG for me and 4 others  On July 22 2013 14:38 TanGeng wrote: I'm not scum! I am just trying to stir up activity and seriously if one mislynch can get activity instead of a bad quiet game, then I'd make that trade because town can actually win with the activity, but right now we're not get activity and you're just tunneling on me. 5T, About the list comment, it's facetious! Your list was fine for its timing and Tofu was calling me useless. The list themselves aren't all that useful. I saw these posts as attempting to look "just like a good townie" after being called out for his less-than-stellar posts about Tofu and I leaving him off our "lurker lists" or whatever. Taken with the fact that there was resistance to his lynch (when I entered the thread he still had a few votes to even reach majority) and the fact that we had so many lurkers, I thought it better to lynch into a weak scumread rather than roll the dice on a null. I hope this helps, but honestly I don't know why any of this isn't clear from what I've posted. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
I did mention you in my opening post. You haven't done jack shit all game, along with most of the players in this game. | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
On July 23 2013 09:42 Oatsmaster wrote: rayn scum guys. Weird pressure vote which doesnt have any stuff in it how firmtofu is scum. Nothing. Just OMGUS. Also, so firmtofu cant make a bad case but this dude can? Double standerds = scum. Yeah no, since when has the number of votes on a dude = to easiest target? Why does rayn even give a fuck that firmtofu is the easiest target? Why does town rayn care whether FirmTofu is an easy target or not? Rayn then says that a lynch is always preferable to nolynch for scum, so therefore TG is scum right? um nope. Contradictions everywhere. In other news, Cora didnt even address me at all, so he didnt read the thread. He doesnt push anyone. All in all, a horrible opening post. I've seen town do pretty much all of the things you've mentioned. Now that doesn't make rayn automatically town, but... I haven't seen town say "don't kill me" and tunnel someone without giving a reason for a whole day. Even in my last game where I was tunneled so hardcore as town, the person tunneling me (who was also town) at least gave a couple reasons when he made his case. But at least you've finally given some reasons. Took you long enough. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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