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On July 25 2013 23:59 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 23:58 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Point taken. But like, the town sentiment @ the time was that TAA was getting lynched so it just felt like he was saying that we should lynch elsewhere. But yeah, it does make sense that he was just explaining why he didn't want to vote Corazon. That part of my case doesn't look so good now I admit. I wasn't making a point, I was asking you a question I'd like answered I thought I answered. Because TAA was the person that was surely gonna get lynched so I jumed to that conclusion. He bolded that part so I kinda felt that it was supposed to be a point that stands on his own. Look @ how he words it. He says "We" should hold of on lynching potential blues. It's just the way I read it.
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On July 26 2013 00:10 FiveTouch wrote:
Ok. Apologies if I came off over-aggressive about it, just seemed so weird to me. NP.
OK, so now the real suspicious thing is the fact that TAA actually WASN'T on his scumlist. Like the redcheck and TAAs initial response wasn't enough to convince him but claiming town roleblocker was?
And yeah the claim was pretty terrible, but not more terrible than "claiming detective is cheating"
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On July 26 2013 00:44 getmoript wrote:
@Onegu Will you please shoot JJD? Meta says scum
WTF? I thought you were the one who originally said I was town based on my meta? Please explain.
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On July 26 2013 01:08 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 01:06 FirmTofu wrote:Why you shouldn't shoot me:On July 21 2013 07:48 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 20 2013 15:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne got banned insulting SNM, haha. That's unfortunate.
I'm hoping we can start Day 1 off constructively with lots of discussion and no fluff.
Anyone out there yet? Hey guys look at my townie townieness im talking about being a good townie so i must be a good townie right? On July 20 2013 16:16 FirmTofu wrote:On July 20 2013 15:19 getmoript wrote:
What sort of things do you want to discuss? Are you mafia? FirmTofu gets what this game is about, just talk about how good of a townie you are and spam your post count up! Also this new hydra thing is anoying as hell. On July 23 2013 22:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
onegu i didnt respond to your case because its a very weak one. The first post you quoted i called firmtofu out for pretending to be very productive(or willing to be very productive) while not doing anything. That isnt a scum tell? in my book it is.
The latter post i tried to show what a facade getmoript was pulling, going full bad cop-good cop on us this game. His fake emotions and empty posts seemed scummy to me, really reminiscent of how iGrok played in a newbie mafia game. Player with a ton of experience making fluffy posts and talking a ton. He has kinda stopped making the flufposts so it mightve been just part of his day1 play. Still thinking about this one though. On July 23 2013 20:09 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
rayns post mortem.
Main thing rayne was concerned with day 1 was fighting with firmtofu, calling each other scum.
Austincc thought rayn was town whereas oats was convinced rayn was scum.
Tangeng joined the the rayn is scum train of thought later, but wasnt half as convinced as rayn was.
Speculation: id guess oats is town because it would be really stupid to tunnel some townie and then shoot him
super speculation: oats might be vigi and shot rayne but i dont know where the mafia killpower went then.
Alternatively firmtofu might have been scum who didnt like the pressure. Happy wifom everyone Bolded relevant.
Who you should shoot:Tier 1(High Priority): jrkirby, TanGengTier 2(Low Priority): JJD, cDgcDg claimed cop. It will be useful to see what he says about his check tomorrow. JJD seems a bit too aggressive to be mafia. He's also tunneling me heavily which seems stupid if you are scum. I think everyone else is town. Whoever wanted to shoot THIS guy needs....to be shot? I don't get it. His suggested shots are bad IMO. And I think he threw my name in there because I'm the hot topic at the moment.
I think TG is a terrible shot now that we know scum had a RBer. And Jkirby doesn't seem like a great shot to me either TBH. @ least not compared to cDg who is who would probably be my guess for last scum. The only thing that makes me hesitant about cDg is how he's practically daring Onegu to shoot him.On July 25 2013 22:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
First of all, people are calling for my lynch or vigi shot. Don't waste your breath. It's not going to happen. There are people who have played way scummier than me and you all know that. Are you really going to lynch me and turn a blind eye to TG, jrkirby, and Oats? You guys know that it's bad town play to do that. Don't waste anything on me. That just seems so ballsy for scum to say. Gonna look @ cDg some more.
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On July 26 2013 03:01 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 02:36 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 26 2013 01:08 FiveTouch wrote:On July 26 2013 01:06 FirmTofu wrote:Why you shouldn't shoot me:On July 21 2013 07:48 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 20 2013 15:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne got banned insulting SNM, haha. That's unfortunate.
I'm hoping we can start Day 1 off constructively with lots of discussion and no fluff.
Anyone out there yet? Hey guys look at my townie townieness im talking about being a good townie so i must be a good townie right? On July 20 2013 16:16 FirmTofu wrote:On July 20 2013 15:19 getmoript wrote:
What sort of things do you want to discuss? Are you mafia? FirmTofu gets what this game is about, just talk about how good of a townie you are and spam your post count up! Also this new hydra thing is anoying as hell. On July 23 2013 22:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
onegu i didnt respond to your case because its a very weak one. The first post you quoted i called firmtofu out for pretending to be very productive(or willing to be very productive) while not doing anything. That isnt a scum tell? in my book it is.
The latter post i tried to show what a facade getmoript was pulling, going full bad cop-good cop on us this game. His fake emotions and empty posts seemed scummy to me, really reminiscent of how iGrok played in a newbie mafia game. Player with a ton of experience making fluffy posts and talking a ton. He has kinda stopped making the flufposts so it mightve been just part of his day1 play. Still thinking about this one though. On July 23 2013 20:09 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
rayns post mortem.
Main thing rayne was concerned with day 1 was fighting with firmtofu, calling each other scum.
Austincc thought rayn was town whereas oats was convinced rayn was scum.
Tangeng joined the the rayn is scum train of thought later, but wasnt half as convinced as rayn was.
Speculation: id guess oats is town because it would be really stupid to tunnel some townie and then shoot him
super speculation: oats might be vigi and shot rayne but i dont know where the mafia killpower went then.
Alternatively firmtofu might have been scum who didnt like the pressure. Happy wifom everyone Bolded relevant.
Who you should shoot:Tier 1(High Priority): jrkirby, TanGengTier 2(Low Priority): JJD, cDgcDg claimed cop. It will be useful to see what he says about his check tomorrow. JJD seems a bit too aggressive to be mafia. He's also tunneling me heavily which seems stupid if you are scum. I think everyone else is town. Whoever wanted to shoot THIS guy needs....to be shot? I don't get it. His suggested shots are bad IMO. And I think he threw my name in there because I'm the hot topic at the moment. I think TG is a terrible shot now that we know scum had a RBer. And Jkirby doesn't seem like a great shot to me either TBH. @ least not compared to cDg who is who would probably be my guess for last scum. The only thing that makes me hesitant about cDg is how he's practically daring Onegu to shoot him. On July 25 2013 22:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
First of all, people are calling for my lynch or vigi shot. Don't waste your breath. It's not going to happen. There are people who have played way scummier than me and you all know that. Are you really going to lynch me and turn a blind eye to TG, jrkirby, and Oats? You guys know that it's bad town play to do that. Don't waste anything on me. That just seems so ballsy for scum to say. Gonna look @ cDg some more. wat On July 26 2013 02:36 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 01:08 FiveTouch wrote:On July 26 2013 01:06 FirmTofu wrote:Why you shouldn't shoot me:On July 21 2013 07:48 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 20 2013 15:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne got banned insulting SNM, haha. That's unfortunate.
I'm hoping we can start Day 1 off constructively with lots of discussion and no fluff.
Anyone out there yet? Hey guys look at my townie townieness im talking about being a good townie so i must be a good townie right? On July 20 2013 16:16 FirmTofu wrote:On July 20 2013 15:19 getmoript wrote:
What sort of things do you want to discuss? Are you mafia? FirmTofu gets what this game is about, just talk about how good of a townie you are and spam your post count up! Also this new hydra thing is anoying as hell. On July 23 2013 22:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
onegu i didnt respond to your case because its a very weak one. The first post you quoted i called firmtofu out for pretending to be very productive(or willing to be very productive) while not doing anything. That isnt a scum tell? in my book it is.
The latter post i tried to show what a facade getmoript was pulling, going full bad cop-good cop on us this game. His fake emotions and empty posts seemed scummy to me, really reminiscent of how iGrok played in a newbie mafia game. Player with a ton of experience making fluffy posts and talking a ton. He has kinda stopped making the flufposts so it mightve been just part of his day1 play. Still thinking about this one though. On July 23 2013 20:09 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
rayns post mortem.
Main thing rayne was concerned with day 1 was fighting with firmtofu, calling each other scum.
Austincc thought rayn was town whereas oats was convinced rayn was scum.
Tangeng joined the the rayn is scum train of thought later, but wasnt half as convinced as rayn was.
Speculation: id guess oats is town because it would be really stupid to tunnel some townie and then shoot him
super speculation: oats might be vigi and shot rayne but i dont know where the mafia killpower went then.
Alternatively firmtofu might have been scum who didnt like the pressure. Happy wifom everyone Bolded relevant.
Who you should shoot:Tier 1(High Priority): jrkirby, TanGengTier 2(Low Priority): JJD, cDgcDg claimed cop. It will be useful to see what he says about his check tomorrow. JJD seems a bit too aggressive to be mafia. He's also tunneling me heavily which seems stupid if you are scum. I think everyone else is town. Whoever wanted to shoot THIS guy needs....to be shot? I don't get it. His suggested shots are bad IMO. And I think he threw my name in there because I'm the hot topic at the moment. I think TG is a terrible shot now that we know scum had a RBer. And Jkirby doesn't seem like a great shot to me either TBH. @ least not compared to cDg who is who would probably be my guess for last scum. The only thing that makes me hesitant about cDg is how he's practically daring Onegu to shoot him. Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 22:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
First of all, people are calling for my lynch or vigi shot. Don't waste your breath. It's not going to happen. There are people who have played way scummier than me and you all know that. Are you really going to lynch me and turn a blind eye to TG, jrkirby, and Oats? You guys know that it's bad town play to do that. Don't waste anything on me. That just seems so ballsy for scum to say. Gonna look @ cDg some more.
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On July 26 2013 04:53 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 22:41 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 24 2013 22:40 FiveTouch wrote:
Got pretty high hopes for TAA actually being the scum roleblocker and our vigi shot going through ^_^ I dont think scum has a roleblocker. In context, this is JJD saying he doesn't believe scum has a roleblocker. He argues further that it doesn't make sense for scum to RB TG and that the RB was town aligned, right? Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 21:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 25 2013 15:12 getmoript wrote:
Guess that means we might be dead tonight, eh other head? I would think you'd have expected this regardless. Kill U , RB the vig makes sense. Doesn't matter now I guess. Maybe we have a medic. On July 25 2013 15:40 getmoript wrote:We'd better sign our shit or this is going to get confusing. Are you thinking newbie/afk scumteam? JJD: I'm really bad at reading him. And that's even considering I've played scum with him. Posts like this: On July 24 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##unvote
##vote TAA
Part of me thinks this a way for getmoript to save oats but I'll trade 1 for 2. Like....so unbelievably ridiculous. Too ridiculous to be scum in my opinion. I'm pretty sure scum would be a little more wary of attacking us when we were the towniest motherfuckers in thread all game. No real point in arguing this since you're confirmed town now but I don't think anyone would have labled you the "towniest motherfuckers" before your claim. On July 25 2013 15:44 getmoript wrote:
lol JJD has attacked like everybody throughout the game yeah, that's just completely untrue In context, Getmoript was musing about his getting a scum lynched. And JJD's reaction is...to forget that we just lynched a scum roleblocker and posit that the scumteam will RB the vig and kill Getmoript? I didn't forget. Getmoript is saying now that the roleblocker is dead, he's probably gonna get killed tonight. I was pointing out that he was probabaly gonna get killed regardless of what role TAA had because there was no way the roleblocker would have targetted him since he would have targetted the vig.
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On July 26 2013 05:36 FiveTouch wrote:
But that doesn't even make sense why would the RBer target the vig unless he was targeting scum? Town aligned vigs are just as if not MORE likely to hit townies than scum, that's a completely bogus line of reasoning. In fact, it makes MORE sense to RB the cop to make town suspicious of him. Town isn't gonna be suspicious of a cop that caught scum. And how would scum know exactly who the vig is gonna target? Like if there's evan a small chance he's gonna shoot @ scum, he's getting roleblocked.
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On July 26 2013 06:12 getmoript wrote:
However, the only reason for us to be dead regardless of the flip is if JJD 100% knew the exact flip already.
I didn't mean regardless of whether he flips town or scum. I meant regardless of him being roleblocker or not.
When you said "Guess that means we might be dead tonight" I just assumed that u meant: now that you know there's no scum roleblocker. It didn't occur to me that you meant: now that we know he's scum, because you already had a red check.
On July 26 2013 06:12 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##unvote
##vote TAA
Part of me thinks this a way for getmoript to save oats but I'll trade 1 for 2. This is the first time JJD brings up TAA at all. I'd talked about TAA a good amount; Austin had (but austin didn't think he was scummy). Tofu had. 5T had. Now JJD had a scum read on me for a while, but if that's the case then he should be trying to show how I'm making 'scum cases.' But at no point is he actively pushing for me; he's not trying to break me down and actually show why I'm scum. At no point is he actually engaging people to talk about the read on me or trying to talk to any other active player to convince them OR confirm his read. He's also actively ignored posts from multiple people talking about my scum meta (which is shall we say drastically different). Most importantly, his reads really haven't moved at all. His reads come off as static to me (which tends to be a scum tell) for me. He's not looking for confirmation bias at all. That's a really big indicator for me.
I have no defense for the TAA thing. I honestly never thought TAA was scummy @ all untill after the redcheck.
And I said originally why I thought you were scummy. I asked a few times for you to explain why you had a town meta read on me which you didn't answer. But you're right, I never really pursued it much further. I didn't think I really had a chance of getting people to believe you were scum because nobody really seemed suspicious of you at all. So I focused on my other reads @ the time.
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On July 26 2013 07:09 getmoript wrote:
@Onegu. Please dear god shoot JJD tonight.
Dude you're so frustrating. What about my last post didnt u like? You really don't believe that interpreted your comment the way I did?
Like I get that ur riding all high because you caught scum. But you're wrong right now about me. All game you've basically ignored everything I've said to you and it's so annoying. I get comments like On July 23 2013 06:19 getmoript wrote:
You really haven't been reading have you jjd On July 24 2013 05:04 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 24 2013 03:54 TanGeng wrote:
Btw, which one of you has the meta town read on JJD? Care to share? I've already asked for this. No they don't care to share. I already told you. If you had bothered to read my filter then you would understand how and why I have a meta read on you.
Communicate with me. You've given very few reasons here and I think explained my self pretty well for what you've said. Like I already said, the only thing I don't really have a good explaination for is TAA. Yes, he slipped my notice. But that doesn't make me scum.
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On July 26 2013 11:52 getmoript wrote:
Look Jarad. I know you haven't been reading my filter. Here's why: lulz
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On July 26 2013 15:27 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yeah so apparently I'm an alignment cop. And TG returned green. I wonder what the chances are of having 2 sane cops and a vig... On July 24 2013 06:22 cDgCorazon wrote:
I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane. ?????
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Yeah IDK what to think about this. Why would a scum cora give different results for his checks? I can't see any scum motivation behind this if it was a lie.
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On July 26 2013 21:49 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 21:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Yeah IDK what to think about this. Why would a scum cora give different results for his checks? I can't see any scum motivation behind this if it was a lie. The main (only?) scum motivation is if it was an enormous fuck up. Claimed rolecop -> isn't rolecop -> has to change story because he can't tell anyone else's role. That's kinda stretching the boundaries of believability I guess. But his check was on TG who's already claimed VT. Unless they're worried about future checks I guess. But that wouldn't really make sense either since as rolecop we're all gonna be suspicious anyway just because he'd be alive.
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On July 26 2013 22:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 21:49 FiveTouch wrote:On July 26 2013 21:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Yeah IDK what to think about this. Why would a scum cora give different results for his checks? I can't see any scum motivation behind this if it was a lie. The main (only?) scum motivation is if it was an enormous fuck up. Claimed rolecop -> isn't rolecop -> has to change story because he can't tell anyone else's role. That's kinda stretching the boundaries of believability I guess. But his check was on TG who's already claimed VT. Unless they're worried about future checks I guess. But that wouldn't really make sense either since as rolecop we're all gonna be suspicious anyway just because he'd be alive.
EBWOP *as alignment cop
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IDK about this. Why wouldn't you just get a greencheck back?
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@marv, dick-move analysis?
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On July 27 2013 00:00 TanGeng wrote:
@JarJarDrinks
How do you feel about my FirmTofu case? Oh I'm still all about lynching Tofu. I just wanted to clear up this whole corazon role thing first.
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Here was my original case about tofu and his scumpoints:On July 21 2013 15:20 JarJarDrinks wrote:Tofu is who I'm most suspicious of right now. His first post sounds like he was just trying to say the towniest thing he could think of. Then he makes his "scum points" post, which I thought was mostly a joke @ first. But he defended it and said he wants to vote based off of it. Like the only thing even remotely scummy here is getmoript saying he doesn't want to interact w/ marv and only barely. Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 08:00 FirmTofu wrote:On July 20 2013 23:00 TanGeng wrote:
FiveTouch is Marv/VE?
We must lynch this Redville scum and take revenge for the mayor!!!
Down with FirmTofu!!!! Up with SilkenTofu!!!
Constructively discussing? Are we dreaming about a different type of forum mafia. If we wanted constructive discussion, might as well lop off about 24 hours of time and get closer to the voting deadline. Beginning of games is always fluffy and I like fluffy.
Fluff=bad You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 03:32 getmoript wrote:On July 21 2013 03:00 FiveTouch wrote:
It's a very real fake vote meant to express my willingness to fake-lynch rayn. Sup?
Also geript no, I'm not on right now. I'll probably be on later though, in case you...you know...had anything you wanted to say. You wanna say something alignment indicative for me. Because otherwise I really want to lynch you because both Hydras can't be town. Why can't both hydras be town? You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 04:02 getmoript wrote:On July 21 2013 04:00 FiveTouch wrote:On July 21 2013 03:43 getmoript wrote:On July 21 2013 03:35 FiveTouch wrote:
Apart from anything else we're a replacement. So it's just full on retarded straight up.
And creating some false dichotomy based on nothing. Yuk yuk yuk.
~marv I'm not talking to you Marv. I can't read you for shit. As a matter of fact I don't think I've played a game with you other than the other hydra game. Put VE back on the line. You're serious? You say something horrendous and then just say you're not going to interact with me? How about some motivation, because you're being disgusting so far. ##Vote: getmoript Are you an idiot Marv or just scum? I told you I can't read you versus shit. I read people far better when I've followed/played in more games with them. Hell I still don't have a read on you in Ver's game. You just mad because I'm more gay ripped than you? Why would you want to glean information from only one half of the hydra? Why are you asking for less information to work with? You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah WoS, i am scum, what was the point of your question?
I don't think there is anything scummy in thread atm. Just stopped working and read the thread. Lemme drink a couple of beers so i can start playing. ^^
Oats why are you so silent? You claimed scum. You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Austin is town. I am so confused. You think Austin is town but you don't explain what makes you think that why. Why say it at all? You get scum points, sir. @ least 2 or 3 out of his 5 points are obviously not serious posts that he jumps on. Need to sleep now. I'll have more to say tomorrow.
I wasn't the only person to point out how bad these were. And that was my case BEFORE any flips. Now when you look @ that list, we can see that he was giving those scumpoints to 2 townies and TG who is pretty close to confirmed I think. Calling out townies isn't necessarily scummy. Calling them out for extremely thin reasoning is.
He then vote's oats for an even worse reasonOn July 22 2013 06:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Voting Oats for now because all he's typing is "lol", "don't lynch me", "nooooo"
##Vote: Oatsmaster
and when getmo confronts him about it he says he was just picking randomly from his lurker listOn July 22 2013 06:56 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 06:53 getmoript wrote:
Because anyone could've made those lists from any alignment. There's no real thought put into reading who's where and why. Some of those I have leans on in different directions but you can't even seem to find a favor as to which you want to lynch other than Oats for weird random reasons which don't differentiate him from the other lurkers. Of course anyone could have made those lists from any alignment! That's not the point at all. People asked for who I'd like to lynch and this is my answer. I have already justified why, so now it is your job to convince me otherwise. I picked Oats pretty much randomly. I could have easily picked any of the other lurkers. Do you want to lynch any of the other people on the list? If so, who and why? Convince me.
Then there's everything TG pointed out about his interactions w/ TAA. And just the fact that he was actually trying to convince us not to vote TAA is just shady beyond belief. I know people will say "why would he defend a scumbuddy that is auto-headed to the noose?". I think he was desperate to save him because he was the roleblocker.
Vig claimed so scum was probably happy cause they can nuetralize him. Getmoreipt then announces he redchecked TAA. Scum gets scared cause they're gonna lose their weapon against the vig. Plus it's gonna make TG look alot better cause we're gonna come to the conclusion that he was blocked by scum and tofu had been pushing him all game. So tofu tried to see if he could derail the lynch. He couldn't so he hopped on the wagon citing the bad roleclaim.
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So vivax shows up and thinks we should lynch the 2 most confirmed townies we have?
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I wish this all would have happened yesterday so there'd be more time to reread stuff to see if I really believe these claims. I'm leaning towards legit because it'd be so outlandish for scum to do something like this,
If u 2 guys are telling truths. then there's a fullproof way to see if cora is legit. Submit your own name tonight. According to cora u wont get town or scum, it'll say investigator or whatever it was he said.
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