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On July 22 2013 08:19 getmoript wrote:
@Austin... Why Oats over TitsAndAss? For legitimate and illegitimate reasons.
He was scum in Nuclear and one of the things that stuck out about him when I was really looking at him on D2 (before forgetting him qqqqqqqqq) is that he was somewhat inactive and just not affecting the game like I think Oats should.
Oats is REALLY inactive this game and not affecting the game, yet at least has LOOKED at the thread at some point.
So in part, it's wrong because I'm lynching him due to looking too hard at last game. But that gets a little WIFOM-y in my head - maybe he's angry/unmotivated because he just got scum again / maybe I'm just overreacting.
TAA is...I misread his filter before and wanted to talk with him, but then couldn't find whatever it was I wanted to talk about. He's been SO bristly and SO jumpy on calling people scum that I give him minor minor not-scum points. But I'm more than willing to chat about him and consider it.
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TAA, who was this post referring to? FirmTofu or FiveTouch, and which lurker post?
On July 21 2013 23:11 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
also a strange thing about FT is the calling out the lurker post. He left TanGeng out of his list of "ill hop aboard these bandwagons any day" call for no apparent reason. Im really interested in TanGengs collor if FT turns red and vice versa. E
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On July 22 2013 06:55 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 06:51 FiveTouch wrote:
Yeah my vote was outdated.
getmoript, you think TAA's cases were malicious rather than wrong townie then?
~marv I don't read him as wrong townie. Feels like he's trying to post just to post and not actually try to force or move discussion which is something I see very rarely out of town. Why do you think he's misguided townie? See above. Yeah, he's not rallying the troops for a lynch, but he's calling a bunch of folks scummy and he's jumping around so much. If he's just posting to post, why is everything an accusation? It reads more like he had a scumread or two, then started getting attacked, the just started attacking everything back (to me). I'd agree with misguided townie over scum based on his cases/votes.
On July 22 2013 07:14 getmoript wrote:
@Marv. His responses read to me like the more he gets pressured the less thought he tries to put into his responses. That reads like scum hasn't fully thought through their line of reasoning. Plus, he keeps on having these "Well you want to know what I think" type of posts which feel really non-towny; very "See what I'm contributing"-esque. For someone like me that'd be the norm, but he doesn't come across as that type of person and between Wave and Me, he's the lurkier player I'd like to kill. I see what you're saying, but I think you can spin this both ways and I like the other. Yeah, some of his responses look very unprepared, but I think that's townie and not scummy. I know when I get accused I post lots of stupid crap because I'm so worried about being thought of as scummy and needing to find scum and needing to defend myself and...being accused of being scum just gives a townie so much more to worry about (unless you're really, really used to getting called scummy or don't care at all). The less thought/more posts reads like that to me, not like scum unraveling.
The "you want to know what I think" point is ... interesting? I don't think I've seen mafia do that, don't think I interpret that as a mafia tell, but he HAS made a bunch of those, and it's a thing that I'll note. Especially if you can say "this is something I would do as town," then I don't think it's utterly damning on someone whose playstyle I don't know.
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On July 22 2013 08:40 TheAwesomeAll wrote:fivetouch made a post calling out the lurkers, Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 15:19 FiveTouch wrote:
Okay I've read the thread and I want to lynch a lurker. Throw a dart between DocH, Zephirdd, Oatsmaster and TAA. None have even tried to fake caring about the game, so I'm not even going to fake caring about their lives. Who's it gonna be guys?
I prefer Zeph, as he's actually posted yet has said literally nothing...but like I said, I would support any of the other lynches I mentioned without hesitation.
-VE evidently he named almost every lurker(up to that point) except TanGeng. TG strikes me as smart and competent with the few posts he made but he hasnt contributed yet so im kinda interested in him and then FT made that post which intentionally left TG out of the spotlight so i thought it was worth pointing out. It IS worth pointing out. Honestly it's the single post in your filter that stuck out the most to me, and I think it's townie.
getmoript, either/both halves, chat about that post (by yourselves, in this thread, whatever). TAA's post is 8 hours after 5T's post. After that 5T post, TAA has:On July 21 2013 23:06 TheAwesomeAll wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 11:24 getmoript wrote:
If there's a goddamn vigilante in this game and you shoot at all in this game I swear I will rage so fucking hard against you in the post game it's not even going to be goddamn funny. Closed setup. Nothing fucking known. Don't fucking kill town. I don't want another fucking repeat of Nuclear. I fucking hate playing as town because I always fucking lose. Goddamn this shit. this post is so weird, fake outrage from nowhere, no real message "plz only shoot the mafia", if i could i would lynch only geript but for now ##vote: getmoript would do. Im fairly sure either FiveTouch or getmoript is scum but since they attacked each other a bunch its probably not both, and since FT has been doing the attacking and getmoript has been backpaddeling as soon as he gets any heat im leaning towards him. On July 21 2013 23:11 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
also a strange thing about FT is the calling out the lurker post. He left TanGeng out of his list of "ill hop aboard these bandwagons any day" call for no apparent reason. Im really interested in TanGengs collor if FT turns red and vice versa. I read that as TAA actually looking through 5T and getmoript's filters, a "figuring the game out" thing. Do you read this as "trying to be all sneaky and make an extra bro scummy"?
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On July 22 2013 08:42 getmoript wrote:
The "that'd be the norm for someone like me" point refers far more to the stream of consciousness type posting. Like I post mostly on gut as town and move from there where I can keep on going. Not the "well do you want to know what I think" type of posts; I don't think I've ever really seen that as town and I honestly can't imagine doing it as town. I've seen something like, "well you want to know what I think. Here's what I think" type of post all connected not this strung out sort of play. Whichever head didn't write this, you should add a "well do you want to know what I think" before every post you make in hydra chat.
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okeedoke. I really do not want to lynch TAA with that one post and then his response just now.
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On July 22 2013 08:58 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 08:51 austinmcc wrote:
okeedoke. I really do not want to lynch TAA with that one post and then his response just now. Who do you want to lynch then? I don't want to lynch FirmTofu. I could go for a lurker right about now but it seems half the game might be modkilled for not voting. Mods, if you're reading this (and if you read come of what I wrote in the Nuclear postgame) I'm going to use this game as an example and start pushing for stronger activity rules in games/harsher bans. -Wave I'm happier with an Oats lynch. Don't have a good scumread on anyone who's been posting a good bit. I'm slightly worried that I'm just punishing him for last game, but I feel pretty good that that's not actually the case, that's he's super lurky but actually was reading at one point or more, and can get behind the thought of "Oats is EVEN less impactful this game because he's rolled scum 2x in a row."
I don't want to lynch FirmTofu either. jrkirby interests me but I'd like to wait and see more from him. DrH valuable if town imo, would like to wait. So I come down to really looking at zephir and Oats, and wanting to lynch Oats between the pair.
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On July 22 2013 09:07 getmoript wrote:
WTF Austin? TAA admits that TanG looks all logic'd up and stuff and doesn't think that VE/Marv can have a read on him from a few posts? Just because someone's a lurker doesn't mean that you're automatically interested in lynching them. You can get reads from lurkers. I've correctly nailed someone as town based on 3 almost single line posts before. Wish you were just bad cop + cop that makes sound effects. Calm down. I FULLY agree that you can get reads from lurkers.
You're interpreting something differently than I am. As I read it, TAA was wondering why 5T didn't mention TanGeng with the other lurkers, when VE said he wanted to lynch a lurker and made a tiny list. Not attacking 5T for having a read on a lurker, but just noting "This dude made a list of lurkers, but he left this one lurker off, and I think that's interesting."
On July 22 2013 09:04 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 08:46 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 08:40 TheAwesomeAll wrote:fivetouch made a post calling out the lurkers, On July 21 2013 15:19 FiveTouch wrote:
Okay I've read the thread and I want to lynch a lurker. Throw a dart between DocH, Zephirdd, Oatsmaster and TAA. None have even tried to fake caring about the game, so I'm not even going to fake caring about their lives. Who's it gonna be guys?
I prefer Zeph, as he's actually posted yet has said literally nothing...but like I said, I would support any of the other lynches I mentioned without hesitation.
-VE evidently he named almost every lurker(up to that point) except TanGeng. TG strikes me as smart and competent with the few posts he made but he hasnt contributed yet so im kinda interested in him and then FT made that post which intentionally left TG out of the spotlight so i thought it was worth pointing out. It IS worth pointing out. Honestly it's the single post in your filter that stuck out the most to me, and I think it's townie. getmoript, either/both halves, chat about that post (by yourselves, in this thread, whatever). TAA's post is 8 hours after 5T's post. After that 5T post, TAA has: On July 21 2013 23:06 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 21 2013 11:24 getmoript wrote:
If there's a goddamn vigilante in this game and you shoot at all in this game I swear I will rage so fucking hard against you in the post game it's not even going to be goddamn funny. Closed setup. Nothing fucking known. Don't fucking kill town. I don't want another fucking repeat of Nuclear. I fucking hate playing as town because I always fucking lose. Goddamn this shit. this post is so weird, fake outrage from nowhere, no real message "plz only shoot the mafia", if i could i would lynch only geript but for now ##vote: getmoript would do. Im fairly sure either FiveTouch or getmoript is scum but since they attacked each other a bunch its probably not both, and since FT has been doing the attacking and getmoript has been backpaddeling as soon as he gets any heat im leaning towards him. On July 21 2013 23:11 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
also a strange thing about FT is the calling out the lurker post. He left TanGeng out of his list of "ill hop aboard these bandwagons any day" call for no apparent reason. Im really interested in TanGengs collor if FT turns red and vice versa. I read that as TAA actually looking through 5T and getmoript's filters, a "figuring the game out" thing. Do you read this as "trying to be all sneaky and make an extra bro scummy"? I really disagree with this. Filter diving isn't necessarily a "towny" thing to do. Scum filter dive too. More importantly I want to bring up how He's 'filter' diving. Here is where the FiveTouch post comes then the post on me. If he were going systematically down through the player filter list, the primary thing he'd comment on is how dead/lurky people are + Show Spoiler [Player List in Order] +1) Zephirdd
2) jrkirby
3) FiveTouch
4) raynpelikoneet
5) FirmTofu
6) TanGeng
7) JarJarDinks
8) DoctorHelvetica
9) austinmcc
10) Oatsmaster
11) TheAwesomeAll
12) getmoript
. If he were going chronologically through the thread, then he would've commented on my Vigilante rage stuff here first and not on VE's lurker comment here. Rather he's popping in, making random comment, getting called on his shit and popping back out. Just looks exactly like a fluff indicator. Anywho going to work now, WoS please take over. See, look at all this calm discussion. Scum filter dive, but...he didn't just accuse 5T with that post? It's not like he looked through for scummy stuff or townie stuff or whatever to reinforce this case. He found something INTERESTING and posted it, makes me think he was reading without planning to do anything specific. I dunno, it's somewhat fluff but not scummy fluff imo. It's actually reading this post and pointing out this interesting thing about this post, but not trying to spin it (at least for instant effect).
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Went ahead and voted Oats. There's merit on both sides of the TAA thing, but I like that post and his response to me as townie posts. The only caveat is that if 5T is town and marv disagrees with my thought process entirely and thinks I'm dumb and TAA is mafia, then it ups that chance TAA is mafia by more than I'd like.
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On July 22 2013 09:30 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 09:27 austinmcc wrote:
Went ahead and voted Oats. There's merit on both sides of the TAA thing, but I like that post and his response to me as townie posts. The only caveat is that if 5T is town and marv disagrees with my thought process entirely and thinks I'm dumb and TAA is mafia, then it ups that chance TAA is mafia by more than I'd like. Uh. Marv's with me on this on bro. My post was like 80% joke, but also it's more whether he agrees with my particular thought process and less the read, I think.
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On July 22 2013 09:32 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 09:14 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 09:07 getmoript wrote:
WTF Austin? TAA admits that TanG looks all logic'd up and stuff and doesn't think that VE/Marv can have a read on him from a few posts? Just because someone's a lurker doesn't mean that you're automatically interested in lynching them. You can get reads from lurkers. I've correctly nailed someone as town based on 3 almost single line posts before. Wish you were just bad cop + cop that makes sound effects. Calm down. I FULLY agree that you can get reads from lurkers. You're interpreting something differently than I am. As I read it, TAA was wondering why 5T didn't mention TanGeng with the other lurkers, when VE said he wanted to lynch a lurker and made a tiny list. Not attacking 5T for having a read on a lurker, but just noting "This dude made a list of lurkers, but he left this one lurker off, and I think that's interesting."
On July 22 2013 09:04 getmoript wrote:On July 22 2013 08:46 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 08:40 TheAwesomeAll wrote:fivetouch made a post calling out the lurkers, On July 21 2013 15:19 FiveTouch wrote:
Okay I've read the thread and I want to lynch a lurker. Throw a dart between DocH, Zephirdd, Oatsmaster and TAA. None have even tried to fake caring about the game, so I'm not even going to fake caring about their lives. Who's it gonna be guys?
I prefer Zeph, as he's actually posted yet has said literally nothing...but like I said, I would support any of the other lynches I mentioned without hesitation.
-VE evidently he named almost every lurker(up to that point) except TanGeng. TG strikes me as smart and competent with the few posts he made but he hasnt contributed yet so im kinda interested in him and then FT made that post which intentionally left TG out of the spotlight so i thought it was worth pointing out. It IS worth pointing out. Honestly it's the single post in your filter that stuck out the most to me, and I think it's townie. getmoript, either/both halves, chat about that post (by yourselves, in this thread, whatever). TAA's post is 8 hours after 5T's post. After that 5T post, TAA has: On July 21 2013 23:06 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 21 2013 11:24 getmoript wrote:
If there's a goddamn vigilante in this game and you shoot at all in this game I swear I will rage so fucking hard against you in the post game it's not even going to be goddamn funny. Closed setup. Nothing fucking known. Don't fucking kill town. I don't want another fucking repeat of Nuclear. I fucking hate playing as town because I always fucking lose. Goddamn this shit. this post is so weird, fake outrage from nowhere, no real message "plz only shoot the mafia", if i could i would lynch only geript but for now ##vote: getmoript would do. Im fairly sure either FiveTouch or getmoript is scum but since they attacked each other a bunch its probably not both, and since FT has been doing the attacking and getmoript has been backpaddeling as soon as he gets any heat im leaning towards him. On July 21 2013 23:11 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
also a strange thing about FT is the calling out the lurker post. He left TanGeng out of his list of "ill hop aboard these bandwagons any day" call for no apparent reason. Im really interested in TanGengs collor if FT turns red and vice versa. I read that as TAA actually looking through 5T and getmoript's filters, a "figuring the game out" thing. Do you read this as "trying to be all sneaky and make an extra bro scummy"? I really disagree with this. Filter diving isn't necessarily a "towny" thing to do. Scum filter dive too. More importantly I want to bring up how He's 'filter' diving. Here is where the FiveTouch post comes then the post on me. If he were going systematically down through the player filter list, the primary thing he'd comment on is how dead/lurky people are + Show Spoiler [Player List in Order] +1) Zephirdd
2) jrkirby
3) FiveTouch
4) raynpelikoneet
5) FirmTofu
6) TanGeng
7) JarJarDinks
8) DoctorHelvetica
9) austinmcc
10) Oatsmaster
11) TheAwesomeAll
12) getmoript
. If he were going chronologically through the thread, then he would've commented on my Vigilante rage stuff here first and not on VE's lurker comment here. Rather he's popping in, making random comment, getting called on his shit and popping back out. Just looks exactly like a fluff indicator. Anywho going to work now, WoS please take over. See, look at all this calm discussion. Scum filter dive, but...he didn't just accuse 5T with that post? It's not like he looked through for scummy stuff or townie stuff or whatever to reinforce this case. He found something INTERESTING and posted it, makes me think he was reading without planning to do anything specific. I dunno, it's somewhat fluff but not scummy fluff imo. It's actually reading this post and pointing out this interesting thing about this post, but not trying to spin it (at least for instant effect). My point is that there isn't a methodical method to what he's approaching. Rather he's reading to some "current point of interest" posting on it and leaving. How is that towny? Because I don't see it as much as a "current point of interest." He found this one post, identified this one thing about it that IS interesting, and mentioned it. If he'd done more with it I'd actually like that less. If he tries to use that to actively paint either party as scummy now, it'd look more like he was grabbing whatever, throwing it in a bucket and calling someone scummy. But instead, he's just pointing out this connection, NOT basing current reads off of it.
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On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit.
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My apologies.
Pretty please explain that sentence and your vote.
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It's late in the evening
She's wondering what clothes to wear
I want to lynch TanGeng
For making this post right here.
On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless.
(1) - On July 22 2013 09:27 TanGeng wrote:I'm not even the most inactive in this game  Fuck! This is going to be bad for town. At this point I'm looking at the most active filter: getmoript. All this stuff looks townie for me right now. Looks at getmoript's filter, doesn't mention all the TAA suspicion, the TAA vote, and apparently even though the voting thread is only one page, doesn't notice that getmoript's vote has moved and nobody is on JJD right now.
(2) Initial pressure/suspicion vote with...5ish hours until deadline in a game that TanGeng has mentioned, at multiple points, is low activity. How is he pressuring?
(3) Dat reason for voting. Vote him cuz he played conveniently
(4) Repetetive "game is dead"/"I am useless"/"LOL I'm not most inactive town" comments.
Checked nuclear, much more active there, has thoughts, follows up on thoughts. I don't care if he's busy, that's fine, but that post and vote are my least favorite thing in the thread right now.
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Hi Oats. Why are you town and is TanGeng scum?
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On July 22 2013 10:34 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote:
My apologies.
Pretty please explain that sentence and your vote. Looks to me like he's posting as he's catching up with the thread. I don't really understand why people do that, or at least do so without explicitly saying they're going to do so and vote and shit when it may be completely irrelevant by the time they've caught up. So....4 or so hours to go. Half the thread hasn't voted, a bunch of people have barely posted. 5T, lurker lynch or do we stay on TAA? Tangeng and Tofu, same question to you. Does it really?On July 22 2013 09:08 TanGeng wrote:
Hey all, got back and looking through the thread as the deadline starts to get closer.
Let's go look over the who might look like a surer lynch among the actives. If no clear candidate, let's go with an inactive.
On July 22 2013 09:27 TanGeng wrote:I'm not even the most inactive in this game Fuck! This is going to be bad for town. At this point I'm looking at the most active filter: getmoript. All this stuff looks townie for me right now.
On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. He's catching up, then 19 minutes later has decided he's not the most inactive, and is looking at your filter. Then 18 minutes later, he knows that you said JJD's entrance was convenient.
But he doesn't talk about anything else in your filter. Doesn't say anything of his own except that he's useless. Doesn't notice that your vote isn't actually on the guy he's now voting for. Is pressure voting with no time left and not actually adding any pressure.
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On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure?
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On July 22 2013 10:45 getmoript wrote:
Fwiw, Austin, the last couple posts are all Wave. I dislike TG, but I've been burned on him before. Where's Marv/VE? Also, I want your thoughts on Rayn @Austin
~g Profile so big that I only checked nuclear. Way more posts with reasoning and thoughts and stuff, just no experience with him beyond that. But...dat post. Not joking, least favorite post in the thread.
I dunno. rayn called me town early on when really not needing to. Gave him minor townie points for that, glossed over a lot of today cuz I'm a bum. Gimme couple minutes and I'll look more in depth.
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On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote:
Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it?
From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it. Wut? It's interesting that he made a lurker list, and, assuming marv has been doing the posting, has basically ONLY made the lurker list and contributed little else, yet left you off of it. 48 hours to make a lurker list in a mini and he leaves a dude off. Just interesting for now.
You say it's stupid. Anything else? Do you think it's alignment-indicative at all?
But more importantly:On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure?
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On July 22 2013 10:56 getmoript wrote:
VE made the lurker list Austin. Not Marv. Sorry, it's unclear. Assuming marv has made most of the hydra's posts, then VE has contributing almost nothing except the list.
If VE has been making some of the other posts, then he's done more than just the list, so he's spent 48 hours making a single list and then maybe another couple posts. It's...better-ish.
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