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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 22 2013 04:29 GMT
#434
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 22 2013 04:35 GMT
#438
Don't lynch me. It really was trying to stir up some activity. I'm trying to help out town and austin just jumped all over me.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 22 2013 05:14 GMT
#458
On July 22 2013 13:38 getmoript wrote:
Convince me you're town. Who do you think is scum and why?


My top suspicions are actually Tofu & Rayne. Tofu for trying to opening up ultra townie and then flinging shit around. Rayne is more of a gut feeling for those series of one liners to Tofu instead of real analysis. I wanted to follow up on Rayne but it looks like he's off.

Honestly I don't know who to vote at the moment for because the day one voting volume has been so low, it's hard to pick up on anything.

Doesn't look like there will be much more before the deadline so:
##vote: FirmTofu
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 22 2013 05:15 GMT
#460
Plurality Lynch?

Hmm. Might be GG for me and 4 others
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 22 2013 05:38 GMT
#475
I'm not scum! I am just trying to stir up activity and seriously if one mislynch can get activity instead of a bad quiet game, then I'd make that trade because town can actually win with the activity, but right now we're not get activity and you're just tunneling on me.

5T,
About the list comment, it's facetious!
Your list was fine for its timing and Tofu was calling me useless. The list themselves aren't all that useful.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 22 2013 19:00 GMT
#699
Fuck this. I'm wishing I could have voted for myself, now.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 01:51 GMT
#802
On July 23 2013 07:11 FiveTouch wrote:
That's just your opinion though rayn and you can't profess to know what the scumteam's opinion on the matter is unless you're on the scumteam right?

From my perspective, a no-lynch is an INCREDIBLE boon for the scumteam, ESPECIALLY if TG is town. Because now everyone's eyes are on TG for TOMORROW'S lynch right? By DEFAULT.

But anyway, that's just MY opinion, and it's regarding DocH who is either replacing out or getting modkilled or providing further content later, so it's whatever.


Really? Scum would refuse a mislynch served on a platter for them? Especially with how Geript blew up at DocH for that. Sheeping as scum would be the lowest risk play ever. Just do it and continue to fly under the radar. DocH is very unlikely to be scum, ok!?

Your idea is that scum takes a shot at saving a town and while preserving lynch-bait? Weight the risks and rewards, there. Look at the heat on DocH. It's not even close.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 02:11 GMT
#806
On July 23 2013 10:53 FiveTouch wrote:
There is no heat, I'm the only one saying he's suspicious are you high dude?

A bit of forgetfulness or just ignoring the red letters everywhere while the getmoript hydra raged and floated just lynching him blindly. Is that not enough risk?

On July 23 2013 10:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
So are you scum or town??

I'm still town and it looks like DocH is/was town. I don't know what you are.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 11:34 GMT
#852
Interesting,

I got a PM stating I was roleblocked.

Use that information as you want.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 14:13 GMT
#929
Assholes make players want to rage quit.

Moderator warning is enough.

I just want to know what the hell Oatsmaster is doing.

+ Show Spoiler +

Between joking scum claims:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=27#527
On July 22 2013 15:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 15:20 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 22 2013 15:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 22 2013 15:15 getmoript wrote:
Seriously though, we're lynching Oats for the lulz tomorrow. He wants to super lurk. I want to shoot him in the face.

i dont want to super lurk, circumstances have forced me into this position.

Oh, the circumstances being that you rolled mafia this game?

Circumstances like I like to play dota.
Also my QT keeps wanting me to lurk. dunno why man.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=42#826
On July 23 2013 15:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its not alignment indicative for me that Rayn died btw, Depending on what the rest of my team thought, it may have been a good move.
So yeah its not alignment indicative.

VE, where you go bro?


The Rayn tunnels.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19250007
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19251108
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19251151

And then some strange waffling about me
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19251298
On July 22 2013 16:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
#taticalreplacement


TG probably town now actually.
Hmm. I dunno. WIFOM?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19253363

But finally settling on a scum conclusion
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19262278


What is this madness and what is your method?


@cDgCorazon
I still got 40 hours.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 14:28 GMT
#934
On July 23 2013 23:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
So TG, do you not agree with my final analysis?


I don't agree with the final analysis, but I'm more interested in the change of heart.

Also if you could perhaps a give a hint of a plan or something like that rather than just flinging stuff around.

As for the final analysis:

getmoript (1) TheAwesomeAll
FirmTofu (2) raynpelikoneet, TanGeng
Oatsmaster (1) jrkirby
TanGeng (6) FirmTofu, getmoript, austinmcc, FiveTouch, JarJarDrinks, Oatsmaster
Not Voting: (2) Zephirdd, DoctorHelvetica

With 12 alive, 7 are required to lynch.

Noone is lynched!

Only DocH(Onegu) was around for the bandwagon moment. Who do you think scum could have mobilised for a mislynch? Your conclusion is only valid if the mislynch is easily possible. Since it hinged on Onegu, that's why I am confident he's town.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 15:39 GMT
#942
On July 23 2013 23:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont have a plan.
I dont need a plan.
Only DrH was posting. Couldve been other people there, so Zeph/TAA/jrkirby.

Whos scum though TanGeng?

Zeph wasn't going to vote.

I can say who isn't scum. Getmoript, Onegu, and I aren't scum. JJD is confidently not scum. The rest are all open to suspicion and some are stronger than others.

And recalling Rayne's train of thought, what have you said here?
On July 23 2013 22:58 FiveTouch wrote:
I don't think everyone was believing Onegu's claim easily at all, rather expressing disbelief at the fact it occurred in the first place.

If you think Tangeng is scummy as hell and you're not sure about his roleblock, shouldn't you be voting for him? Actually speaking of that, I don't actually remember any reasons why he is scummy as shit. What are your reasons?

~marv

Do you not remember why your reasons and the reasons that your other hydra half voted for me?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 18:10 GMT
#985
On July 24 2013 01:52 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 01:47 FiveTouch wrote:
On July 24 2013 01:44 getmoript wrote:
On July 24 2013 01:38 FiveTouch wrote:
VE & I just musing in QT. Gonna let him have some post-time. I agree with almost everything you said, Wave, except I think Tangeng could be town.

~marv

I don't like the idea of letting him go though. Someone said it earlier but we're always going to have that 'what if' feeling about him.

What makes you think he's town?


I know, it feels icky.

He's twice used the argument that Onegu is town because he could have lynched him. Now I'm well aware that scum can fake this argument, but in my experience usually they don't, it's usually townies who say stuff like this, because townies have a very self-centric view like that. I know I do that much more as town than I do as scum. Possibly because I'm usually under less suspicion as mafia, but meh.

~marv

I don't think it's a great example. I believe everything DrH said before he ragequit was true and he justified his lack of activity to himself. He figured voting for himself wouldn't have actually mattered at that point and didn't catch up or care enough about this game at that point to help us out. It had nothing to do with him being a towny or scum not dropping the hammer imo. I think scum probably knew this so I don't really think that argument holds much water.


@WoS
Scum DrH would come from a position of information unlike Town DrH which would be in ignorance. Acting on their information is what should be happening and a mislynch was the easy answer. Do you think scum would act as DrH apparently did and abstained from the vote?

Again, scum DrH COULD STILL make the no-lynch play if they were confident that I would be lynch bait and waste town time on a Day 2 lynch. In such a play, they'd have to know town well and be able to push town agenda. Given that, I'd expect one of the more vocal town voices to be scum and DrH would have been prepared for some kind of pressure on the null vote. He surely would not have rage quit.



The way I see it, I was completely focused on Onegu. There is nothing in my post about myself except the unquestionable assumption that I am town. If you want to analyse me via my posting, clearly you'll have to peel back the assumption and run through the scum scenarios.



@Marv
Not sure what kind of mentality you mean by "self-centric."
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 18:54 GMT
#987
On July 24 2013 03:18 getmoript wrote:
You're not following me.
I don't think DrH is scum, I think you are.

Ok, if that is the case, I'll leave you to your analysis.

Btw, which one of you has the meta town read on JJD? Care to share?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 19:58 GMT
#993
I'm not sure why I sucked out a RB on night 1.

If scum RB, would scum put me on a blue role?
If town RB, what does it mean? In small games, is a town RB feasible?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 20:10 GMT
#997
On July 24 2013 04:59 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 04:58 TanGeng wrote:
I'm not sure why I sucked out a RB on night 1.

If scum RB, would scum put me on a blue role?
If town RB, what does it mean? In small games, is a town RB feasible?

I have a theory. I'm waiting to hear Cora's theory first. I think it has something to do with you maybe lying about being roleblocked.


There is always the lying about being VT and about being RB'd interpretation.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 20:33 GMT
#1001
Actually I'm completely speculating. It's hard to believe myself.

Repeat:
I'm not sure why I sucked out a RB on night 1.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 20:46 GMT
#1007
@ JJD

Are you still around?
Now that you're on Oatsmaster, what happened to your stance on FirmTofu? Has your read changed at all?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 21:22 GMT
#1046
Closed setup. One DT does preclude Two DTs.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 21:36 GMT
#1066
err EBWOP

One DT does NOT preclude Two DTs.

Also:
Role Cop is possible for scum but there is no reason to check himself. Checking himself in such a circumstance is just strange.

Why did you check yourself cDgCorazon?
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