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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 06:07 GMT
#2327
On July 28 2013 15:06 Onegu wrote:
Because we cant trust the checks...


With 1 Fakeclaim it's more likely to be SANE/SANE/INSANE
rather than the 4 way mess SANE/INSANE/PARANOID/NAIVE.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 06:09 GMT
#2330
On July 28 2013 15:08 Onegu wrote:
Would you be saying the same things if I switched to firm as I have him as town also? So please just stop.


What am I trying to say? What is done is done. Bluelightz has locked it in. I'm not trying to influence you. I'm just doing this for analysis.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 06:11 GMT
#2335
On July 28 2013 15:08 FirmTofu wrote:
Why do you sound so sure he's going to flip town?


Because YOU & AUSTINMCC both scum slipped. And if they knew how to read Corazon's personality, they would have seen that the impulsive action like snap counterclaim and that mess is perfectly true.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 06:12 GMT
#2337
On July 28 2013 15:11 FirmTofu wrote:
Okay, we lose. I can't believe that just happened.


LOL you as scum? Are you really going to follow through on your promise to lynch yourself and Vivax?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 06:14 GMT
#2341
no jrkirby. trust me FirmTofu and Vivax
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 06:16 GMT
#2344
On July 28 2013 15:16 FirmTofu wrote:
TG, I'm going to have a look at your case on Vivax/Austin again. Can you link it please?


LOL are you really going to tell me you're not scum?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 06:17 GMT
#2345
On July 28 2013 15:16 Onegu wrote:
How can you guys not see JrKirby is scum?

Why don't you post your scumhunting results?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 06:21 GMT
#2347
Tofu:

Well if you want to know how I caught you: Here's your links:
The "scripted conversation" sequence was the key.

On July 28 2013 14:58 TanGeng wrote:
@Onegu

What is your case against kirby. Really. It's "meta" but this jrkirby is a lurky newbie and you're trying to force a meta on him?

I posted my case, and you never liked it. You do realize these cases are scumhunting fundamentals, right? You use meta as a last resort.
Tofu
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=94#1880
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=95#1885

His scum partner Vivax/austinmcc
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=98#1960
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=99#1962

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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 06:31 GMT
#2350
Desperate plays...

That and you were still playing scummy.

You: I'm DT let's kill Cora.
5T: I'm DT, too. I think Cora is one of us.
You: Oh shit!
....
Later:
....
You: Let's kill Cora anyways!
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 06:33 GMT
#2351
On July 28 2013 15:23 FirmTofu wrote:
You didn't catch me. Explain to me why I would push for cDg's lynch if I was scum. This would only push your proposed scumteam of me and Vivax to the spotlight. If I was scum, I would have silently wagoned the kirby lynch so that neither of us would be suspected.


Cute...
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 17:50 GMT
#2360
@VE & Marv

Onegu was totally looking for a veteran to sheep and I'm looking at you.

After yesterday's mess, I'll be available if you ever want to hear and breakdown my case against FirmTofu & austinmcc/Vivax.
If you think I've got my read right, then you can make one last appeal and lead these townies to victory.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 17:53 GMT
#2361
On July 29 2013 02:42 FirmTofu wrote:
If anyone has any questions for me at all, please ask. I'll be completely honest. I don't think Vivax would push cDg so heavily if he was scum. There were clear reasons to think cDg was scum and I echoed his sentiment. I totally got what Vivax was trying to say from a town perspective. Austin has also looked town to me this entire game.

Just my 2cents. I know they don't matter much anymore. Looks like I'm a naive cop and 5T is paranoid. That's a bit odd.


So convenient, now that you turnout naive cop. So convenient. Of your totally bullshit anti-town plan.
You're not DT. You're scum.

LOL @backtrack from last night.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 23:56 GMT
#2370
@Onegu

See getmoript's comment about jrkirby. The guy is a newbie lurker that is lynchbait. Scum team needs to keep him around to win. That's why Tofu made the huge move. Scum need you to mislynch on jrkirby. If jrkirby isn't around town wins via process of elimination.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 29 2013 00:00 GMT
#2373
Sorry, 5T...

Are you going to hear me out on Vivax & Tofu, now?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 29 2013 10:46 GMT
#2409
On July 29 2013 16:04 jrkirby wrote:
Shit, is my terrible play gonna lose the game for town? T.T

Ok here's the thing: I think 5T theory is right. I think there's 4 cops, 1 of each type. That makes Tofu's claim true. Onegu killed someone, he's vigi, and he's town. That leaves me, austin/vivax, TG, and JJD. 2 of us are scum, and I'm pretty sure it's vivax and JJD.

Tonight I doubt anyone would want to lynch JJD. But I think a vivax lynch is doable. Unfortunately I'm not sure I'll be able to convince you guys that I'm not scum, especially not 2 nights in a row. I apologize for my poor play if we lose.

##Vote: Vivax


WTF.
I'm on the verge of policy lynching you ATM, MYLO be damned. Post that after lurking!?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 29 2013 10:57 GMT
#2410
Thinking over the possible choices at the moment:

policy lynch jrkirby
no-lynch
lynch vivax/tofu
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 29 2013 11:23 GMT
#2414
Scummy? What evidence? Build a case, dammit.

jrkirby is lurky - yes. He is also a total newbie and is completely liability for town. Yes.
Basically jrkirby opens his mouth and doesn't look townie. That's right.
That's not enough to mark scum for me.
And don't blame him for YOUR Oatsmaster shot AND Corazon lynch.
Scum? What evidence? Build a case for scummy plays.

So build a fucking case. And go lighter on the weak meta arguments please. Otherwise I will bust out
OMG Y U META
DO YOU EVEN SCUMHUNT

Only thing I have at this point is he lurks and then posts like no townie or scum would ever post, and that is a policy lynch.

And why policy lynch on MYLO?
I think marv said it best. Dick Move. Dick. Move.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 29 2013 11:42 GMT
#2420
On July 29 2013 20:27 Onegu wrote:
So you are admitting you want to play against you win condition if you are town. And I have made case after case on him, nor do I blame him for my mislynch and misshot, I do blame him for not makeing his own read last night and after showing who he wanted to vote then swich to make a lynch. He didnt care who was lynched as long as it was cora or tofu, he wanted to sheep my lynch target and make me look bad, but you are right I made the choice and I was wrong, but he showed complete apathy on the lynch targets and that is scummy as hell.


You had the choice to lynch, to no-lynch, to try to get others to switch their votes. You didn't. Your read of jrkirby is also wrong.
jrkirby only cared whether or not he was getting lynched. That's a null.
jrkirby made no pressure to force a lynch on Cora or Tofu. You had to identify whether or not the lynch was good or not. Don't call kirby scum for making you look bad. He didn't do anything at all.

BTW, you could have made a policy-lynch kirby case on day 3. I'd have agreed.
On July 28 2013 11:26 TanGeng wrote:
I think we need to be able a mechanism to vote in a forced replacements for lurky players. This jrkirby no show is ridiculous.

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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 29 2013 11:50 GMT
#2421
On July 29 2013 20:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 20:23 Onegu wrote:
Yes he was checked green by cora. Which doesnt mean to much with sanitys but just feels like after day one he has played pro townie. Also he claims he was roleblocked night 1, and after the scum roleblocker died no more rb claims were made, which makes it likely he was telling the truth, and I dont see scum roleblocking thier own player.


I claimed fake roleblock as scum,too.
Do you think scum had a good reason to roleblock the guy who just survived D1?
If anything, he had a good reason to fake a roleblock on himself.

We don't know sanities.

All we know is that this guy has NOT been lynched by scum D1.


Hey, all I know is that:

Scum TAA didn't vote for me. But he was also not active in the thread.

Also jrkirby and Onegu (DocH) didn't vote for me.
But, hey if scum Tofu/Vivax voted for me then, two of the three scum would have been on my bandwagon.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 29 2013 12:11 GMT
#2424
You didn't ask for a policy lynch.

Just because you make the "scum" argument and it doesn't work, doesn't mean a different angle isn't going to work.

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