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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 19 2013 00:08 GMT
#2063
gg guys, not much I can do about that
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 20:55 GMT
#2226
I honestly thought Super was SK until I just read this. It made so much sense for Super to kill me. Nightcat...should of killed Chrom! ;(
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 21:05 GMT
#2229
It was SK's job to kill the people who were roleblocked. Mafia KP was factional, SK was not.

Your read on me was not townie, you read me as holding back. That is because I was scum :p
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 21:08 GMT
#2231
Ah good point. Chrom was not the most obvious jailer target.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 21:28 GMT
#2240
You were far from Town, Chrom. As long as Super was alive there was that potential association hanging over you. Also, once Umasi claimed RBed then it made your claim a little strange, as you were not the most obvious jail target N1.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 21:33 GMT
#2243
As for improving your play, I would say: Suspect everyone.

You are fantastic at pushing your scum reads, but you get into tunnel mode very easily.

I think you need to play a game as scum so that you get a feel for the things that scum is doing behind the scenes.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 21:35 GMT
#2244
Umasi, once Sponge flipped Cop I would of backed off. I only wanted to lynch you because I thought that you were SK. After Sponge flipped I thought that Super was SK, so Xzav would of pushed him and I would of tried to find away to gently get Super lynched.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 22:29 GMT
#2254
To be fair, I 'knew' a lot of things this game that turned out to be incorrect.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 22:30 GMT
#2257
At the point of my death, I had Super as Cop (with a N1 guilty check on Xzav), Sponge as JK and Umasi as SK. I also had Rainbows as Vet on D1.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 22:31 GMT
#2258
What is the 'food' in the picture you posted, Alaka? I think it is food anyway, might be vomit.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 22:42 GMT
#2262
For me now, scum-hunting is not looking at actions but at motivations. It's not hard for scum to act like town, but it's really hard for scum to make their motivations appear to be town. For example, my motivation on D1 was to keep Gotard alive while letting the wagon backed by Stim and Chrom win. I backed myself into a corner though, where I could not save Gotard D2.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 22:47 GMT
#2263
A good example Sponge:

My motivation for attacking you at the start of D2 was because you knew scum shot Rainbows, therefore you might be the SK. I did not really back off until I thought that you were blue.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 22:52 GMT
#2265
Xzavier did not put enough time in, though.

If I could of told him what to say D3 then I think I could of gotten him out of it, but he had no confidence to try himself so he just played league of legends.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 22:56:21
July 21 2013 22:56 GMT
#2267
I could not waste a kill on you though, because if you flipped Cop then someone would of read your filter and Xzav would of been lynched. I wanted you alive until you were pressured enough to claim cop during the day, then xzav would of counter claimed and traded 1-1. I did not mind losing Xzav after a mislynch on the Cop, but I did not want to lose him after night-killing the cop.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 23:05 GMT
#2270
On July 16 2013 10:07 Superfluous wrote:
Ignore last comment, forgot role is revealed on death so we could just go off reads if they die prematurely.


On July 16 2013 10:20 Superfluous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:00 Xzavier wrote:
well shit 2 of my 3 top scumreads just died, leaving 1 alone at the top:

sup super.

##VOTE SUPERFLUOUS

this will be removed once you start some LIGIT scumhunting none of that "vote for one guy, make a case on another guy" bullshits okay?

if i dont think youve done an adequate job/you look more scummy as the day goes on expect this to stay, and a case to be made along with it.


I get the feeling you barely even know what you are saying. It's like you see when other people raise criticisms of me then copy them exactly. Also, it feels SO SCUMMY that you and Umasi are so quick to vote an hour into the day. Don't forget that after the jkirby lynch a decent amount of town said that they felt it was too easy and a town-town lynch, including rainbows who is dead and proved town.

I'd also like to go back on what I said about umasi. Generally I feel it is a good, pro-town move to put pressure on people and get info from them. On day one he pushed me and jrkirby and it didn't work out. Now that's not the worst thing in the world, but then that he immediately goes back and puts pressure on me instead of forcing info/ reads from other people which is much more productive. It's fine that I'm his biggest scum read and he wants to vote for me, but why the rush to vote? It doesn't make him scum, but I don't feel he's clearly town anymore.


On July 18 2013 07:37 Superfluous wrote:
Hey guys sorry I've been missing, been sick the last few days and mafia hasn't really taken priority. Regardless I'm back and surprised that I am somehow not the main lynch target. I think Gotard is a good lynch and would like to honor kirby's last reads. That said I find it strange how no one is defending him too too much, though if he's maf it may just be that his teammates felt town would really push his lynch and they didn't want to defend him only for him to turn red.

Other thoughts: Gut still says something's up with Xzavier, but with the revelation of sk it could be that and not necessarily maf.

I agree with Onegu's case against Hurricane, though don't really have much to add to it. I realize it's kinda scummy to show up and just agree with the closest we have to proven but eh.

I feel like Chroma has been playing completely differently day 2 than day 1. Now, maybe that's because he spent the first day defending me and had less to do today, but it feels weird how his main reason for defending me and calling me town was just to lynch kirby. Also keep in mind that while I think Maf killed Rainbows and not Koshi, Koshi WAS going really hard on Chroma for defending me. One line sticks out in my head, Koshi said that considering how hard Chroma was defending me it was almost as if he knew I was town. Something to keep in mind.

I also feel like Umashi has done very little for town on day 2. Day 1 he was putting out pressure and trying to accomplish something, and it doesn't feel the same today. Now, he has ceded this roll to Onegu as he is pretty much confirmed yet hasn't done much himself. (Correct me if you feel I'm terribly wrong, this is just from skimming over and trying to post my thoughts before lynch). I also thought he was the obvious kill for mafia n1 if he was doing a good job of leading town.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 21 2013 23:21 GMT
#2273
That looks a lot like a soft-claim to me :/

No Miller, just a Framer.

I disagree with you going by your gut. Your D1 read on me was luck imo, as there was no way to have a solid scum read on me that early.
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