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pretty sure rayn suggested I choose the order. here's what i posted:
On July 03 2013 06:58 JarJarDrinks wrote: I'm assuming I die for sure. W/ the mass claim looming they can't leave me alive because I'm close to confirmed town as well as uncounterable @ this point.
not necesarily my order of scumminess (though close) but this is the order I think people should claim. Use it if I die:
gumshoe and marvellosity - get these out of the way first. Marv doesnt really need to @ this point but cant hurt.
s0Lstice - was one of my earliest suspects and has been so insanely quiet I almost forgot he was still playing
WaveofShadow -
raynpelikoneet - I do have a history of reading scum rayn as town. I'm really not sure about him anymore. I think this whole marv/lazor thing did make sense @ the time however I feel like he's trying to direct attention away from the whole mass claim which should be the first order of business tomorrow.
mkfuba07 -
Oatsmaster -
Stutters695 -
Vivax - First person to bring up a mass claim gets him lotsa townie points
I think that's everyone.
Before all that though see if lazer claims to have caught a red and have that person claim first. Though I'd be shocked if he says he came back w/ an unblocked check regardless of alignment.
man rayns last few posts are serious WTFs.
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On July 03 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Ladies and gents we have a problem here. There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz. I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked. Vivax were you notified of your hit? Who do you think is lying?
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On July 03 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Ladies and gents we have a problem here. There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz. I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked. Vivax were you notified of your hit? Who do you think is lying? I have no clue now to be honest. How do you not autovote lazer? If you were roleblocked then you're saying that you think mafia not only left the cop alive but didn't roleblock him as well? Shouldnt he should be confirmed scum to you?
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On July 03 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Ladies and gents we have a problem here. There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz. I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked. Vivax were you notified of your hit? Who do you think is lying? I have no clue now to be honest. I was worried when the possibility of fakeclaims were brought up that this would be a possibility. I have no fucking clue why I was roleblocked though. I'm still thinking strictly role-wise it would make the most sense to have a cop in this game so certainly one of the protection/KP roles has to be a fake. Since I know mine is legit that leaves Vivax/gumshoe. Are 2 or 3 blues more likely in this setup because I would think then if only 2 blues are really present maybe Lazer DID fakeclaim along with one of the others. Gameplay-wise if I had to pick one of the blueclaims to lynch Lazer has had by far the scummiest play out of the three of them so I'd lynch him first. I'm not sure which of Vivax/gumshoe are lying if only 2 blues are present. In fact, ##Vote: Lazermonkey did you edit that vote in? I could have sworn it wasn't there originally
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On July 03 2013 09:35 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:34 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2013 09:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Ladies and gents we have a problem here. There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz. I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked. Vivax were you notified of your hit? Who do you think is lying? I have no clue now to be honest. I was worried when the possibility of fakeclaims were brought up that this would be a possibility. I have no fucking clue why I was roleblocked though. I'm still thinking strictly role-wise it would make the most sense to have a cop in this game so certainly one of the protection/KP roles has to be a fake. Since I know mine is legit that leaves Vivax/gumshoe. Are 2 or 3 blues more likely in this setup because I would think then if only 2 blues are really present maybe Lazer DID fakeclaim along with one of the others. Gameplay-wise if I had to pick one of the blueclaims to lynch Lazer has had by far the scummiest play out of the three of them so I'd lynch him first. I'm not sure which of Vivax/gumshoe are lying if only 2 blues are present. In fact, ##Vote: Lazermonkey did you edit that vote in? I could have sworn it wasn't there originally Do you see an edit stamp? Derp. Strange I totally missed it. Also I didn't realize parity cop worked like that. I thought you just submit 2 names each night and get same/different.
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Don't think I'm missing anyone here:
marvellosity - Sgt. Hugo Stiglitz gumshoe - Shoshanna s0Lstice - Pierre LaPadite WaveofShadow - Sgt. Donny Donowitz mkfuba07 - Oatsmaster - Pfc. Andy Kagan Stutters695 - Vivax - Lt. Aldo Raine Lazermonkey - Cpl. Wilhelm Wicki JarJarDrinks - Pfc. Michael Zimmermann
Fuba and Stutters need to claim. Townie points to whichever one claims first.
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Not totally caught up but I see fuba claimed 3rd party. Few things first:
- Doesn't that pretty much mean he's extremely unlikely to win? If I'm 3rd party I think I'd just counter the scummiest looking dude and take my chances.
- Why not jail someone? Especially gumshoe who claimed blue and could potentially vig kill him? Saying that he figured vig would shoot lazr or marv seems like a poor reason to not use ur ability.
- I find it way too coincidental that he's the last claim and he happens to have the only non-red role left in the game. That means for him to be telling the truth, every scummy got lucky and picked a role not already in the game.
Gonna reread stuff but I doubt I'll see anything that would make me want to vote anywhere else.
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Yeah, I just can't buy into roleclaimgate™ . Just seems too crazy for a # of reasons. I'm sure rayn is cursing @ me from the obs deck but sorry I just can't buy into it.
So I'm gonna mark marv and lazr down as legit for now. WoS on the other hand has got to be scum.
- Last blue to claim. - Claims roleblock when I can't see any reason for hitler to have targetted him. - Claims to have shot @ marv which as has been pointed out seemed unlikely for him to do. - Plus @ the deadline yesterday the votes seemed to want to go anyone but him.
Not sure who's the better lynch between fuba and WoS.
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Yeah I'm suggesting lynching survivor. I'm suggesting fuba is scum and had no choice but claim the only non-red role left in the game.
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On July 03 2013 22:52 JarJarDrinks wrote: Yeah I'm suggesting lynching survivor. I'm suggesting fuba is scum and had no choice but claim the only non-red role left in the game. EBWOP *not suggesting lynching survivor
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On July 03 2013 22:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 22:52 JarJarDrinks wrote: Yeah I'm [not] suggesting lynching survivor. I'm suggesting fuba is scum and had no choice but claim the only non-red role left in the game. And if he's actually survivor? What kind of wierdo question is this? We lynch who we think is scum. Couldn't you ask this question about every lynch? Like you want to lynch WoS right? well what if he's actually Vig?
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On July 03 2013 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote: Should we nolynch today. No, lynching fuba accomplishes the same thing and he could very well be scum.
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Vivax, if Fuba is 3rd party then we are @ mylo. Look @ Marvs #s above. Lynching Fuba is the correct play IMO.
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On July 03 2013 23:37 Oatsmaster wrote: Is Vivax scum marv? ##vote WoS Vivix is 100% confirmed town.
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On July 03 2013 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote: JJD, if its mylo and we dont lynch scum, we lose if there are only 2 townies dead tmr and no one else. highly likely. Lynching Fuba is the only way we guarantee that we don't lose the game unless we're 100% sure we're lynching scum. if we lynch WoS and he's town (or any townie), it's 3/3/1 tomorrow and we lose the game. If we lynch Fuba (and he's survivor) it's 4/3 tomorrow and we don't lose.
The kicker is fuba might actually be scum.
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On July 03 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Everyone on fuba, please get off fuba.
So you want to risk the game on todays lynch? You were just asking if we should vote no lynch because we're @ mylo. This is essentially doing the same thing but w/ a much bigger upside.
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On July 03 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 23:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Everyone on fuba, please get off fuba.
So you want to risk the game on todays lynch? You were just asking if we should vote no lynch because we're @ mylo. This is essentially doing the same thing but w/ a much bigger upside. We're going to have to risk the game 3 more times after today to win the game. The issue is that after tonight, 2 of the most level-headed people will be gone and we won't even have got a scum yet. Who's gonna be gone? Vivax obviously. Who else?
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On July 03 2013 23:48 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 23:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Everyone on fuba, please get off fuba.
So you want to risk the game on todays lynch? You were just asking if we should vote no lynch because we're @ mylo. This is essentially doing the same thing but w/ a much bigger upside. Dude. If we lynch scum we bring KP down to 1. And if we lynch town, we lose.
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On July 03 2013 23:52 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 23:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 23:48 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2013 23:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Everyone on fuba, please get off fuba.
So you want to risk the game on todays lynch? You were just asking if we should vote no lynch because we're @ mylo. This is essentially doing the same thing but w/ a much bigger upside. Dude. If we lynch scum we bring KP down to 1. And if we lynch town, we lose. And if you lynch survivor, you lose a guy who can turn the tides for town with his JK. Doesn't matter for him who he wins with, he's a potential medic. We need his compliance. Can't turn the tides if we mislynch today. He says "hi scum, kill 2 people today please, I wont stop you. Then tomorrow I will vote with you and we both win GG"
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Also people. Keep in mind rayne had fuba on his scum list,
@marv, You really think that rayn was completely wrong on all 3 of his scumreads?
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