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On July 02 2013 06:09 marvellosity wrote:why did you dump your vote on WoS then leave? because it looked like the only wagons @ the time were WoS, Lazer, and Vayne and I felt that was the best vote. The fuba thing just up and happened out of thin air. I think he's a bad lynch.
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On July 02 2013 06:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 06:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 02 2013 06:09 marvellosity wrote:On July 02 2013 06:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:
anyone have a vote count? why did you dump your vote on WoS then leave? because it looked like the only wagons @ the time were WoS, Lazer, and Vayne and I felt that was the best vote. The fuba thing just up and happened out of thin air. I think he's a bad lynch. Don't you think the contradiction I pointed out which has been left unanswered by fuba is scummy? OK. I just went back and I guess I missed it the first time. Yes that does look bad. I just feel like the votes moved to fuba so quick after Lazers claim that he had to be town. Meaning that one of the other potential wagons (WoS or Vayne) were probably scum.
Sorry guys, I can't hang out for this last hour though I will do my best to get in front of a computer 5 minutes before the deadline.
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I'm back
On July 02 2013 06:45 Vivax wrote:
Who's in for WoS? We have 15 mins Me. Pretty sure my vote's already there.
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On July 02 2013 06:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 06:53 JarJarDrinks wrote:I'm back On July 02 2013 06:45 Vivax wrote:
Who's in for WoS? We have 15 mins Me. Pretty sure my vote's already there. why don't you consolidate with me on the guy who's not-cop k done
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On July 02 2013 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so people who are most likely town:
JarJar, Lazer, marv, Vivax, Oats, gumshoe Why is gumshoe most likely town? What about my case don't you like? (Especially the stuff about the mass claim).
Also, you think it's reasonable to assume that I'm town and there was no mafia were pushing my lynch yesterday?
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Regardless he unvoted so the point is moo.
What is wierd though is how he disappeared during the crucial part of the day. Especially considering he used that exact same reasoning to build his case against Stutters and myself. See if I was like him, I'd start throwing out all these theorys that he couldn't refute about how the mass roleclaim idea scared him away and he purposefully stayed away from the thread.
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On July 02 2013 22:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
And competent scum also dont do shit like that. So yeah..
So incompetent scum does? If so, how is it alignment indicative?
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On July 02 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Regardless he unvoted so the point is moo.
What is wierd though is how he disappeared during the crucial part of the day. Especially considering he used that exact same reasoning to build his case against Stutters and myself. See if I was like him, I'd start throwing out all these theorys that he couldn't refute about how the mass roleclaim idea scared him away and he purposefully stayed away from the thread. In fairness he did say his activity would be spotty on Day 1, Canada day and what have you. I agree with you that it's at best extremely hypocritical with the Stutters thing. ..and me too. And yeah, that's all I was implying. He searching for anything that he can call scummy about me.
ie:
- my post about voting to save myself
- "flipflopping" when I changed my opinion on rayn
- The aforemention inactivity of myself and stutters
- me "piggybacking" oats opinion on marv
Is any of this stuff really scummy?
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On July 02 2013 23:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On July 02 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Regardless he unvoted so the point is moo.
What is wierd though is how he disappeared during the crucial part of the day. Especially considering he used that exact same reasoning to build his case against Stutters and myself. See if I was like him, I'd start throwing out all these theorys that he couldn't refute about how the mass roleclaim idea scared him away and he purposefully stayed away from the thread. In fairness he did say his activity would be spotty on Day 1, Canada day and what have you. I agree with you that it's at best extremely hypocritical with the Stutters thing. ..and me too. And yeah, that's all I was implying. He searching for anything that he can call scummy about me. ie: - my post about voting to save myself - "flipflopping" when I changed my opinion on rayn - The aforemention inactivity of myself and stutters - me "piggybacking" oats opinion on marv Is any of this stuff really scummy?
In fact, I relooked @ the piggyback accusation and check this out:
On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar Drinks's first post is essentially just him piggy backing off Oat's accusation of Rayne (who in turn was just recycling my initial analysis and presenting it as his own but with gusto) while simultaneously attacking Lazer without providing any reason why (he also associates them here as if they are in league, when in reality they're is no real proof connecting the two other than Wifom) he backs mine and Oat's assesment of Stutters maybe just being silly town, but doesn't comment on his long absence.
Here's my first post that he's referring to:On June 30 2013 13:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.
Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'
Does anyone else not see that something is wrong? Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far. I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him: Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view.
##Vote: Stutters And here's the post in question: Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:On June 30 2013 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stutters what do you think about Lazer's post?
Also what do you think about WoS' posts? I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd. WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages. I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town?
Am I really piggybacking? I acknowledge oats case barely and then give 3 of my own reasons for thinking rayne was scummy. And also I wasn't attacking lazer and I certainly wasn't associating them as if they were in league. And then again he mentions actvity by saying that I didn't comment on stutters long absence. Like, I commented on stutters actual posts. What could he possibly expect me to say about the fact that he wasn't posting?
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On July 03 2013 00:04 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 23:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 02 2013 23:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 02 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On July 02 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Regardless he unvoted so the point is moo.
What is wierd though is how he disappeared during the crucial part of the day. Especially considering he used that exact same reasoning to build his case against Stutters and myself. See if I was like him, I'd start throwing out all these theorys that he couldn't refute about how the mass roleclaim idea scared him away and he purposefully stayed away from the thread. In fairness he did say his activity would be spotty on Day 1, Canada day and what have you. I agree with you that it's at best extremely hypocritical with the Stutters thing. ..and me too. And yeah, that's all I was implying. He searching for anything that he can call scummy about me. ie: - my post about voting to save myself - "flipflopping" when I changed my opinion on rayn - The aforemention inactivity of myself and stutters - me "piggybacking" oats opinion on marv Is any of this stuff really scummy? In fact, I relooked @ the piggyback accusation and check this out: On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar Drinks's first post is essentially just him piggy backing off Oat's accusation of Rayne (who in turn was just recycling my initial analysis and presenting it as his own but with gusto) while simultaneously attacking Lazer without providing any reason why (he also associates them here as if they are in league, when in reality they're is no real proof connecting the two other than Wifom) he backs mine and Oat's assesment of Stutters maybe just being silly town, but doesn't comment on his long absence. Here's my first post that he's referring to: On June 30 2013 13:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.
Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'
Does anyone else not see that something is wrong? Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far.I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him: On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view.
##Vote: Stutters And here's the post in question: On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:On June 30 2013 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stutters what do you think about Lazer's post?
Also what do you think about WoS' posts? I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd. WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages. I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town? Am I really piggybacking? I acknowledge oats case barely and then give 3 of my own reasons for thinking rayne was scummy. And also I wasn't attacking lazer and I certainly wasn't associating them as if they were in league. And then again he mentions actvity by saying that I didn't comment on stutters long absence. Like, I commented on stutters actual posts. What could he possibly expect me to say about the fact that he wasn't posting? 1:This is effectively you saying you have found Razors null/posting scummy, but doing it an uber passive way. I find this scummy/shiit flinging without the effort. Sue me of you dont. Finding someones post not town-indicitive <> attacking that person. That's a huge leap to make.
2:Regarding the timing of my absence, at the time of my leaving you asked me Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 00:46 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar did you get any flavour text at least XD might help me swallow this.
We're not supposed to I thought but yes I got flavor. Didn't you?
I'm actually worried that I wasn't even supposed to post what I did.
On July 01 2013 09:35 iGrok wrote:
Game continues. Deadline will not be pushed back, as only ~ 2 hours we missed.
To reiterate, the game is now unpaused, please continue. Thanks for working with me to sort this out.
I do need everyone else to go ahead and send in their role PMs, and I have changed one rule in the OP:
It is no longer allowed to post your role pm. You may only post your role name.
I'm thinking that the whole role name means I was only supposed to say "vanilla". Because I feel like the whole mass claim is kinda broken in this setup. Does this sound accusatory? At my time of leaving I assumed we were on fine terms, this means that my absence is nothing like stutters because I left when there was no heat on me. It's also not like yours because I did not pop up as a case formed on me, which means I was not actively not contributing. Also I told everyone I was leaving for the day, and you took the opportunity to pounce. You've started a case because I announced I was leaving and then called me a hypocrite because you started a case and I was gone... Also sorry about the vote, Canada day eh / : my absence is nothing like yours or Stutters just like Marv's is not like yours or stutters.
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On July 03 2013 00:56 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 00:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 00:04 gumshoe wrote:On July 02 2013 23:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 02 2013 23:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 02 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On July 02 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Regardless he unvoted so the point is moo.
What is wierd though is how he disappeared during the crucial part of the day. Especially considering he used that exact same reasoning to build his case against Stutters and myself. See if I was like him, I'd start throwing out all these theorys that he couldn't refute about how the mass roleclaim idea scared him away and he purposefully stayed away from the thread. In fairness he did say his activity would be spotty on Day 1, Canada day and what have you. I agree with you that it's at best extremely hypocritical with the Stutters thing. ..and me too. And yeah, that's all I was implying. He searching for anything that he can call scummy about me. ie: - my post about voting to save myself - "flipflopping" when I changed my opinion on rayn - The aforemention inactivity of myself and stutters - me "piggybacking" oats opinion on marv Is any of this stuff really scummy? In fact, I relooked @ the piggyback accusation and check this out: On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar Drinks's first post is essentially just him piggy backing off Oat's accusation of Rayne (who in turn was just recycling my initial analysis and presenting it as his own but with gusto) while simultaneously attacking Lazer without providing any reason why (he also associates them here as if they are in league, when in reality they're is no real proof connecting the two other than Wifom) he backs mine and Oat's assesment of Stutters maybe just being silly town, but doesn't comment on his long absence. Here's my first post that he's referring to: On June 30 2013 13:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.
Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'
Does anyone else not see that something is wrong? Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far.I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him: On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view.
##Vote: Stutters And here's the post in question: On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:On June 30 2013 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stutters what do you think about Lazer's post?
Also what do you think about WoS' posts? I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd. WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages. I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town? Am I really piggybacking? I acknowledge oats case barely and then give 3 of my own reasons for thinking rayne was scummy. And also I wasn't attacking lazer and I certainly wasn't associating them as if they were in league. And then again he mentions actvity by saying that I didn't comment on stutters long absence. Like, I commented on stutters actual posts. What could he possibly expect me to say about the fact that he wasn't posting? 1:This is effectively you saying you have found Razors null/posting scummy, but doing it an uber passive way. I find this scummy/shiit flinging without the effort. Sue me of you dont. Finding someones post not town-indicitive <> attacking that person. That's a huge leap to make. 2:Regarding the timing of my absence, at the time of my leaving you asked me @gumshoe - opinion on mass role claiming? On July 02 2013 00:46 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar did you get any flavour text at least XD might help me swallow this.
We're not supposed to I thought but yes I got flavor. Didn't you?
I'm actually worried that I wasn't even supposed to post what I did.
On July 01 2013 09:35 iGrok wrote:
Game continues. Deadline will not be pushed back, as only ~ 2 hours we missed.
To reiterate, the game is now unpaused, please continue. Thanks for working with me to sort this out.
I do need everyone else to go ahead and send in their role PMs, and I have changed one rule in the OP:
It is no longer allowed to post your role pm. You may only post your role name.
I'm thinking that the whole role name means I was only supposed to say "vanilla". Because I feel like the whole mass claim is kinda broken in this setup. Does this sound accusatory? At my time of leaving I assumed we were on fine terms, this means that my absence is nothing like stutters because I left when there was no heat on me. It's also not like yours because I did not pop up as a case formed on me, which means I was not actively not contributing. Also I told everyone I was leaving for the day, and you took the opportunity to pounce. You've started a case because I announced I was leaving and then called me a hypocrite because you started a case and I was gone... Also sorry about the vote, Canada day eh / : my absence is nothing like yours or Stutters just like Marv's is not like yours or stutters. This is just a complete misrepresentation of what happened. I had made my cases against you BEFORE any of the role stuff happened. I didn't take the opportunnity to pounce after you said you were leaving for the day. The majority of what I said was before that. Yes I reposted it for marv and then sure, I started it up again today while you were still gone. Are you saying that I shouldn't push my scumread because he disapeared for the day? I don't know how you can say you "assumed we were on fine terms" when we already had plenty of back and forth and I posted @ least 2 full cases against you. Well then tough, you've been misrepresenting half of what I said as well, this is just the way I see it. I'm not talking with you about this anymore though, answer my question on Lazer please.
How is that an answer? You said you thought we were on fine terms even though I had spent a great deal of time accusing you. Why would you have thought that?
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On July 03 2013 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
Jarjar, if we assume gumshoe is indeed blue, then now what? I think we do what we should have on day 1. Proceed w/ the mass claim.
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I agree w/ rayns assesment and also agree that vig should shoot into lazr/marv tonight
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On July 03 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv. Why the gumshoe clause? What am I missing?
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OK I'm flip-flopping again and don't think vig should shoot @ marv/lazr tonight. I'm actually kinda upset that all this was brought up cause was totally gonna post @ the deadline that there's no way marv and lazrr should be alive after tonight. But now that's all wifom.
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is deadline in :45 or 1:45 ???
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On July 03 2013 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i do not die i'll tell the thread what happened when the game was paused.
wtf is this?
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On July 03 2013 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, afaik the OP did not state scum have 2 KP until the game was paused. This seems like a real wierd thing to know.
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I'm assuming I die for sure. W/ the mass claim looming they can't leave me alive because I'm close to confirmed town as well as uncounterable @ this point.
not necesarily my order of scumminess (though close) but this is the order I think people should claim. Use it if I die:
gumshoe and marvellosity - get these out of the way first. Marv doesnt really need to @ this point but cant hurt.
s0Lstice - was one of my earliest suspects and has been so insanely quiet I almost forgot he was still playing
WaveofShadow -
raynpelikoneet - I do have a history of reading scum rayn as town. I'm really not sure about him anymore. I think this whole marv/lazor thing did make sense @ the time however I feel like he's trying to direct attention away from the whole mass claim which should be the first order of business tomorrow.
mkfuba07 -
Oatsmaster -
Stutters695 -
Vivax - First person to bring up a mass claim gets him lotsa townie points
I think that's everyone.
Before all that though see if lazer claims to have caught a red and have that person claim first. Though I'd be shocked if he says he came back w/ an unblocked check regardless of alignment.
man rayns last few posts are serious WTFs.
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