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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 08:05 GMT
#869
On July 08 2013 16:50 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Previous

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On July 08 2013 14:59 CaucasianAsian wrote:
i have to go eat. will continue later today

Dandel Ion
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=Dandel Ion
On July 07 2013 07:12 Dandel Ion wrote:
Also, in an concentrated effort to prepare for sicilian mafia (for which I'm not actually signed up for, but you can never know), I'll stop posting for the dayphase, and only vote from now on.

So he posts a bunch of filler, and then states that he won’t be beneficial at all to town. Fair enough, so point blank, he has posted a refusal to not help town.

ghost_403
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=ghost_403
Lurker, very few posts. Not beneficial

Oatsmaster
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All his limited posts are pretty much filler, doing nothing beneficial to town.

Stutters695
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Filler, not being beneficial

Z-BosoN
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Pretty boring, not beneficial as of yet

Abenson
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He claims to have unvoted for Johnny here:
On July 08 2013 12:31 Abenson wrote:
Anyways I've unvoted from Johnny since although he looks kinda suspicious, it might be just newbie town. I think we can pay attention to him but not lynch him right away.
Gonna vote Chez. Interested to see what he flips and what motivated him to throw that nuke

Yet, he never even voted, as can see here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=Abenson
Beyond that confusing post, not beneficial

Meapak_Ziphh
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Unfortunately he is being nuked by someone who didn’t claim it. As Xatalos stated here: + Show Spoiler +
On July 07 2013 20:00 Xatalos wrote:
Looks like I'm still alive. Although after re-reading the rules, it's not that surprising:

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On June 21 2013 05:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Nukes can be fired up to 12 hours until the next deadline. It will be announced in thread whenever a nuke is fired. The nuke will trigger at the end of the deadline.

There are many different types of nukes.


So:
1) apparently every nuke will hit at the deadline, not before or after that time
2) there are different types of nukes

I can say that I'm immune to one type of nuke, but clearly I'm still in danger of death, since I don't know which type of nuke Chezinu launched at me. Ultimately it will be resolved at the deadline. If someone wants to use an anti-nuke or something, feel free to do so, although I can't be certain if it's necessary or not.

Chezinu, if you are town, I'd like to hear your reasoning for launching a nuke at me and the type of that nuke.

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On July 07 2013 18:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED

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A nuke has been spotted heading towards Meapak_Ziphh.


This at least proves that nukes don't necessarily have to be claimed. Dunno if Chezinu's nuke required claiming, but there's at least a strong possibility that he claimed it without needing to. That makes him look more townish IMO - why claim if my town flip would just put him in a tough spot as scum?

On the other hand, nobody claiming this nuke aimed at Meapak makes it likely a scum nuke... And Meapak town based on that.

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On July 07 2013 15:47 Alakaslam wrote:
VayneAuthority is tunneling jwupwut I forget his name for a stupid reason. This doesn't implicate Vayne in and of itself. Jwupwut looks like town.


Is that an actual read? If so, why?

There is no reason for a townie to randomly nuke someone so early on with very little reads. This makes me assume that he is town, and it is probably a scum nuke. Unfortunately we won’t be able to see him for much longer.

Ace
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The first person to actually be posting so far down this list (with the exception of Meapak who is unfortunately being nuked). To say that he is mafia or town is hard at the moment. After all, it’s still Day 1, and there is very little information to go off of. Although as everyone seems to be on the right page, people not talking are simply bad for town, and it’s good that he is saying something, town or mafia, as if he’s town we will be able to understand that through his future posts / voting / nuking (?) and if he is mafia, we will be able to see flaws in his logic and patterns through posts / voting / nuking (?)




Continuing

MajuGarzett

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Doesn’t post much, but from the few posts he has made, seems to be doing some actual analysis. Although he is inactive, he currently doesn’t seem as scummy or bad townie as other inactives. Should be looked at closely, and made sure that he continues to post again, but I’m not too worried about him yet


Johnnywup

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On July 07 2013 23:59 johnnywup wrote:
I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value.


On July 08 2013 14:09 johnnywup wrote:
Guys. I don't have much time left. I need to nuke someone to live. I'm getting a scummy read out of TanGeng. He's one I feel is most likely scum... So there you go.

##nuke TanGeng

I will not be able to change this.



Additionally, I am going to vote for Dandel Ion for now. Of the inactives, he seems most likely scum. I can change this in the morning if I feel like it, and I don't think a chez lynch is the best idea right now, and he seems to be gaining the most traction. I don't support that. So I'm voting for a new candidate which I think most people can agree on lynching on if it comes to it.

He never posted before that he needs to nuke in order to survive. If that were the case, I am starting to understand why he is bad for the town. Not only is his basis to target TanGeng absolutely absurd, when there are many other inactives (I myself was very inactive) who fit into the same line.
Also, I cannot assume that a town role forces you to nuke someone. If he is forced to nuke someone every day, and he is not lying, then that’s simply bad for town. It’s very risky.
Also, he votes for WaveofShadow, and Dandel Ion
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420340&user=johnnywup
His basis is that Dandel Ion is scummier than WaveOfShadow.

Onegu
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So right off the bat, before I even start to say anything. I want to note that MajuGarzett votes for him. As I stated earlier, I don’t feel as if MajuGarzett is very scummy yet.
Overall, even though I’m not a big fan of Onegu, he hasn’t done anything way out of the ordinary that would quantify him as being mafia, or town yet. I feel very neutral on him.

He continues to say that I’m a scummy lurker. I can understand why people would assume I’m a lurker. I’ll defend this once I get to me on the list.
But honestly, he seems to be proactive. I don’t see any hardcore basis behind lynching him yet, unless I want to go about a pride thing. But he gives me a more townie feel to be honest.


VayneAuthority

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I have a similar feeling to VayneAuthority as I do to Onegu. Even though he has less filler posts, he seems to be doing decent analysis. Despite the whole thing of me being drunk and thus that’s a sign of mafia, he’s not looking to be pro-scum from my point of view thus far. He does seem to be lynch happy, but ok. There are people much higher up on my radar currently.


strongandbig

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Very inactive, and blames 2 people that they look scummy. He is really sitting in the corner, showing he is watching the thread (with his 2 random suspicion posts) and not being beneficial to town at all.


gunshoe

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Almost every single one of his posts are filled with fluff. Not being productive at all.



Will continue later, need to study for class.


First are you sure you were looking at my filter because I never mention you let alone say you are a scummy lurker.

I agree with your thoughts on Johnny though, it just seemed convienent that he only posts he has to fire a nuke after chez says he had to fire his. Just seems like a easy way to fire his at someone on geripts list, especially if he has multiple nukes.
Also he never says why dandol is scummier just odd.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 10:46 GMT
#897
On July 08 2013 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On July 08 2013 17:58 FirmTofu wrote:
I don't think MZ's defense of Chez is comparable to Vayne's. MZ's defense is considerably more muted and only came after the nuke on Chez. Considering MZ has also been nuked and has posted a lengthy list of all of his reads, I don't think he warrants our attention today.

Wait wtf. Has someone nuked Chez?

He was fake nuked by xata, he says that is why he fired back in his own roundabout way.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 14:48 GMT
#938
On July 08 2013 23:39 Xatalos wrote:
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On July 08 2013 23:38 TanGeng wrote:
Hmmm what does infection mechanic do?


No idea.


It lets you nightkill.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 14:50 GMT
#939
EBWOP

Radiation is a mechanic that comes from radiation nukes. It infects people and kills them the next turn. The second part however doesn't happen to you. 
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 14:57 GMT
#942
On July 08 2013 23:55 Xatalos wrote:
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On July 08 2013 23:50 Onegu wrote:
EBWOP

Radiation is a mechanic that comes from radiation nukes. It infects people and kills them the next turn. The second part however doesn't happen to you. 


Do you know if there are other types of nukes or just Radiation nukes?


I only know of radiation nukes.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 15:25 GMT
#955
On July 09 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, after reading the last page i dunno. Maybe it's better that the nuke on Xatalos lands. If he does not die, gratz, we got a vigi. If he does die, Chezinu looks terrible. Xatalos can't be mafia working with Chez like this, there's no way he would have claimed that as mafia.

I suggest we lynch NG. Anyone in?
Because if Chezinu's nuke is some type that "helps" people, as there apparently are people who gain something from nukes, it makes sense to shoot it towards a townie.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Nirvana.Gabo


Here's the case:
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On July 08 2013 16:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 08 2013 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote: NG
NG is scum.
He says both WoS and vayne are scum then votes Onegu for being bad. then he gets into rayns face for NO Reason. This guys scum guys


To expand on this, this set of quotes:

On July 08 2013 06:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:58 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:43 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nirvana.Gabo why is Onegu your target and not me?


I happened to notice Onegu's posts in the past few pages and I didn't notice yours.

Ahh so you don't read the whole thread and just vote reactionary?
Is this the behaviour you are going to follow the whole game?


I didn't say I didn't read your posts noob

Now you are making zero sense. Elaborate please.


NG says he noticed Onegu's posts about Chezinu but not mine.
Then he says he apparently did see my posts after all?
When i ask him to clarify, he does not answer.
scum.


Xata is 100% town, but chez shouldnt get off yet because he couldnt know of xata role, and we arent sure if he launched a helpful nuke or not as that is the one question he hasnt answered.

My other point on him is he launched the first actual nuke, but when he did it he couldnt have known the others were fake, that is why I took my vote off of him.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 16:36 GMT
#1005
On July 09 2013 01:26 Z-BosoN wrote:
I won't dig too much into meapak right now, his filter seems ok.

One thing that is bothering me a LOT is Alakaslams posting. He pummels me asking for more quality from a few posts of mine yesterday, is pretty oppressive on my "17%" joke, complaining that most of the thread is fluff:


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On July 08 2013 09:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Two posts above yours, and his activity asking questions. But mostly, two posts above yours.

Was good enough for me. Glad your activity is spiking.

No comment on your 17% bs, reading this game you should know there is 10x more fluff than is desirable. I am watching you too, and I'll say it for you: OMGIS!!!


Yet his own posting quality is very fluffy. He isn't trying to steer discussion anywhere that is useful. Anyone familiar with his playstyle feels like commenting?


This is only his second game, I have already said this but it feels different then his last game though.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 21:33 GMT
#1340
Sorry I fell asleep speed reading now then back to sleep.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 21:44 GMT
#1363
How do we know the claim isnt real? Just seems odd.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 21:47 GMT
#1369
Ok back to sleep I trust xata 100%

##VOTE:ON
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 09 2013 10:19 GMT
#1603
Alright Im catching up now, my has been sick all day and just now went down for his nap. Im like 30 pages behind so give me a few min.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 09 2013 10:22 GMT
#1604
Ebwop son ^
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 09 2013 12:33 GMT
#1645
On July 08 2013 07:56 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey Mepak. I am back, I promise not to martyr again if I can help it. I am prone to martyr after last (and only) game. But fair enough and don't forget to watch me, I understand the need for town cred.


Onegu, yes you make a good point. But meta is meta, last game I was an ill- playing blue role, here I am just vanilla, with the added benefit of a little experience. So less worried about getting Lynched, and remembering the words of Hapa.

So I retract my old statements on WoS, I rebuild the alliance, but note that I still ally with Ace.

Reason being is I believe ace to be helping town in a genuine way, rather than in the ways I can see scum doing, and he is still doing better than WoS. Disclaimer, however: I suspect ace is capable of anything, and besides I should be taken with a grain of salt, considering how little I know I this game.

That being said, as Onegu points out I have no excuse to lurk and yet posting unsubstantial fluff is something I have found to be nigh useless, if not detrimental to my fellow town.

Geript, my ally: what thinks ye of Ace? You know far more about this great one than I.

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Я знаю, что смешнее, когда я теряю голову, но я оставлю это на новых игроков, как игра была сделана пылающей рукой. Так что я буду стараться быть спокойнее, и более полезными должна я в последний раз.




I dont think there are vanilla roles I think he is lying here, again I am sorry I am on a tab here so I will have multiple posts in a row.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 09 2013 12:34 GMT
#1647
On July 08 2013 17:54 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 08 2013 17:38 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 08 2013 17:20 Alakaslam wrote:
MajuGarzett, tunnel much, hmm?

On Onegu? His vote switch seemed to fit with my read, it would be dumb not to point it out. What would be the point in not highlighting evidence? And it seemed the most relevant topic in the thread at the time.

Oh and yes and suits me. If anyone else has a bone to pick they can have at it.


Really fast to get off the boat here, why so fast this answer isnt that great.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 09 2013 12:40 GMT
#1653
On July 09 2013 04:53 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 09 2013 04:51 FirmTofu wrote:
Dandel Ion is looking more and more like an easy scum misdirect.

Scum Thought Process: Let's find the one townie that is lurking and easy to lynch; that way no one will scumhunt and we can shift pressure off of us.


Yes, this is why I un voted.



Fast sheep of an unvote.


I do not see any benefit to town for me to explain that. In the further interest of town, I refuse.I do not see my own survival a more important than doing all I can to benefit town. I will not vote OriginalName, and will vote Vayne. I am sorry, and I'm pretty sure ON will be lynched anyway.Scum are not the only informed folk, and I am not informed, and I'm not making sense so that is all I will say.


I really dont like this explaining yourself is always good for town, I think he was trying to gain town cred by not voteing ON, but by not explaing himself makes him look really bad.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 09 2013 12:54 GMT
#1660
On July 09 2013 13:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Was starting to throw this together
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On July 09 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WaveofShadow: Answer me this.

I launched a nuke on Meapak. You were scummy as hell, came back in thread and implied you have a desire to use your power. Then you redirected the nuke from Meapak to NG. Now if you and Meapak are both scum and i am town, how does this not make sense from my point of view to call you both mafia?

Desires to paint Mepak and WoS as mafia

On July 09 2013 09:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Wait rayn, after you nuked me you called me town. Also you called me town all the up until now when you started disliking WoS's retarget. Take your tinfoil hat off, you're making me wish I had died.

Doesn't make sense bruh

Also fuck you guys for not lynching dandel, he came back and did literally nothing and then peaced the fuck out. Absolutely disgraceful.

At some point tonight I'm gonna do another big reads list because I fully expect to die tonight despite all the claimed blues -_-


Mepak calls bs

Which is 1000x harder on iPhone.

Then I realized: EVERYONE, PLEASE JUST READ PAGES 72-77.

It really needs the context.

How on earth is rayn not at the very least confirmed lying?

What is his motive for all that?



Why dont you say what you want us to see, really bad to just say go look.

Ok. He was the host of my other game, where I was completely different.I don't see a scum read on me from anyone who hosted in that game (or even played in it) as at all implausible. I am so different I know it. I have gone from (to use jungle book analogies) Disney Baloo to Rudyard Kipling Kaa in the space of two games.(In reality though that is just comparative. I am very like ohai i am nwe heer plz help me btw blazinghand cooler than cool hehehe Both games. Just this one I see most of TL mafia is pretty cool at it <3<3<3 as everyone from FirmTofu to Ace has managed to impress me at some point.)


Geript's answer strikes me as smarter than mine would have been. I would have labelled myself yet scummier, as it means I am consciously being different.I would still have said this. The coaching I (unconsciously) ignored last time? Calm down, be honest. That's all, and it probably would have prevented Lylo if I had followed that advice better (I thought I was, somehow).


Alakaslam are you trying to play different by makeing zero reads, sheeping answers, and posting fluff? Please its not like that.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 09 2013 15:06 GMT
#1721
On July 09 2013 22:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
We should probably give this rayn thing a rest for a bit as its killing discussion before the night post. People that have a chance to die should really throw out some reads/cases before they are gone.

I really need people's opinions on these three men, as I think they are all scum.

gumshoe, ghost, onegu

They don't have time to post anything meaningful in the thread but are able to show up last second and ninjavote for ON? Especially gumshoe who I know is much more capable than this.


I am sorry for this the deadline is 5am for me normally I am up until 2am ish, I fell asleep early and woke up a half hour before the deadline i tried to speed read but was still tired and since I know Xata is 100% town I sheeped him.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 09 2013 17:03 GMT
#1734
On July 10 2013 01:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Signifying I am caught up.

So Vayne, I can actually be of assistance to you

Onegu has begun to relive our prior game. He plays a pretty good scum game (especially from my perspective), by attacking town mistakes.

This is usually good because it scores you town cred while painting your target which takes attention off yourself. It would not have caught my eye as much if he hadn't started after some stronger players said (too happy-go-lucky, response to rayn's gig[????]) pretty much town. I usually assume I will look scummy because there is no usually yet and last game I was lynched as town. So I would actually expect what is coming from him.

Onegu just had bad timing this time

On a further note, yeah there are a lot of blues. There are also a lot of players. It isn't impossible that there are vanillas, who amuse the pre lynch time with speaking Russian, and then going story boarding when that derails. I know most posters have soft claimed but cauc hasn't yet, neither have a lot of people. But even if I was blue, I am not going to paint a target on my back for mafia. So the deal about vanilla claiming doesn't say scum even if it is a lie.

Oh, uh, hehehenothingpersonalkthanksbye
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Russian<That fool doesn't represent. At least he is a self-admitted fool, but a fool nonetheless.>

Hey!
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shut up. Russian<caught a spy today. I am disappointed you didn't enjoy my gift, Mepak_Ziph, but perhaps that was to be expected. I assure you, it was well meant. Let this suffice, I am in a distant land and my home is a smoking pile of ash. It will take time for me to build enough resources to afford luxury items again. However, though the idiot hasn't allied with you yet, I assure you my feelings toward you are as warm as those I have for Chezinu Isunizehc.


Uh...

Allied with M_Z.....


You dont actually defend yourself you just try to flip it back on me only useing meta. Butthis game is you arent scumhunting, you arent doing anything. You refuse to vote ON but wont give a reason to do so, you are just trying to get town cred.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 11 2013 05:51 GMT
#2097
Sorry I have been in a pain med coma the last day and a half, first I will be active and am sorry. Second I do not have a radiation nuke. Third I have left enough breadcrumbs for people to figure out my role not sure how you havent. I think only scum have radiation nukes since no town have claimed them and xata looks town at this point from most peoples persective. I also believe that radiation nukes are silent because it says in the role pm we do not know when we are infected. I visited Xata last night.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 11 2013 06:01 GMT
#2103
You are a Immune One! You have no special powers other than that Radiation nukes do not harm you, but do infect you. Each night, you may choose to visit a player. If you are infected with radiation, it will spread to them. You will not be informed if you are infected. Once infected, your infection will last the entire game. Reply 
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