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As for Spicy, I can't really tell if he is or he is not a scum, because he is playing a very much thought out and careful game. There is nothing solid of evidence that I can point to as a proof. I will this though, in the last game he played an excellent townie but I'm not getting that same feel in this game. Can elaborate further if you request. As for Aquanim, only looking at votes, cases and interactions, he is a scum. He voted for Xzavier and Alakslam. He has a bizzare relationship with LoneMeow. However he fucking talks a lot and he has strong opinions. So that's that.. | ||
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4th line second sentence - *I will say this though,... | ||
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You are dead. Stay dead >: ( | ||
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The reason I voted for Onegu day 2 comes down to this. At the time, everyone were too caught up in either-or. Either Alakaslam was lying or Onegu was lying. After reading Alakaslam's post, I didn't think he was lying at all, but then I questioned why would Onegu have claimed? It is way too risky to fake-claim in case he get busted. So I began thinking, "what if they are both telling the truth?" Maybe I missed it but if I remember correctly, Onegu never claimed Watcher. He only claimed that he knew Hurricane visited Alakslam. He could have Watched Alakaslam OR he could have tracked Hurricane. If we assume that Onegu is a Tracker rather than a Watcher, it all makes sense. From Onegu's point of view, what he claimed IS truth, he just let others assume how he knows the truth. + Show Spoiler + Well played, Onegu. I really don't want to do this but here are some of my posts from Day 2. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2013 10:13 StiMaDDict wrote: hzflank, could you help me a bit here? Did Onegu actually claimed Watcher? It could've been that he tracked Hurricane to Alak. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2013 10:25 StiMaDDict wrote: What's bothering me at this point is that this "Alakaslam enthusiastically tandem-claimed Tracker (with no public intent of countering Onegu's claim)" doesn't look like it was intentional. So what I'm was thinking is that Onegu is scum tracker and he tracked Hurricane. He knows Hurricane visited Alakaslam. So he pretends to the town watcher by telling what he knows. Lastly, Hurricane will defend Onegu. Does that make sense? + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2013 10:26 StiMaDDict wrote: If what I suggest is true, then what Alak claimed makes sense. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2013 10:29 StiMaDDict wrote: I wasn't here at that time so you will have to fill me on it. Obviously, Onegu couldn't have anticipated Alak claiming. I will have to check but was Onegu under vote pressure at that time? + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2013 10:37 StiMaDDict wrote: Then I don't see why Onegu would claim.. I know you had a scum read on me and if I remember correctly FirmTofu was on Onegu.. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2013 10:43 StiMaDDict wrote: I'm going to vote Onegu at this point. If Alakaslam flips red, then I'm probably next on lynch but my gut tells me Onegu playing this. ##Vote: Onegu Oh btw, Hurrican voted Alakslam, so that means that he DID visit Alakslam + Show Spoiler + or he is NN. SOOooooo, that's that. What I have here is pure gut and instinct. Why did Aquanim emphasize Onegu is a Watcher.. On June 29 2013 09:22 Aquanim wrote: Onegu has claimed Watcher. He claims to have watched Alakaslam, and to have seen Hurricane visit Alakaslam. But then this bothers me.. On June 26 2013 02:19 Onegu wrote: To be honest I dont care who is killed if Xzavier flips town my vote will go on aquanim and if he flips scum I will vote Spicydinosaur. My current read on Xzavier is null with scum reads on alakaslam and aqua. With every post Alakaslam makes he looks more and more like noob scum to me. | ||
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On July 03 2013 05:32 hzflank wrote: Still reading, but Onegu did absolutely claim watcher. He did? Then I guess what Aquanim said shouldn't be suspicious. | ||
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On July 03 2013 05:34 hzflank wrote: Also, we all knew that Hurricane was NN who accidentally visited Alakaslam. We had deduced this at the time of the vote. Then why the fuck did he ask me whether he should claim or not... *making me look stupid and shit *grumble *grumble | ||
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On July 03 2013 05:44 hzflank wrote: @Stim There are 2 scum. Your options are: hzflank, Aquanim, SpicyDinosaur and LoneMeow. Who are your picks? LoneMeow and SpicyDinosaur. btw, if Lone flips town, I'm going to super fucking pissed. | ||
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I already stated that I'll vote LoneMeow and Spicy. | ||
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##Vote: Spicydinosaur | ||
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I played a pretty terrible town and I thought scums would have jumped on me by Day2. It was a lot of fun playing with you guys ^^ | ||
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Since now everyone think I'm a hardcore lurker, regardless of my ailment in future games, even if I'm active in forum, I'll be suspicious? Dang.. | ||
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What exactly did people see in me that made them think I was town? It's my play but even I'm not so sure XD Only thing I can think of is when asked questions and voted Onegu at the end of Day2. | ||
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On July 06 2013 08:58 ObviousOne wrote: To those who reached out to me for coaching: would you like to see me coach town again? Could you coach Survivor if I become one? | ||
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On July 06 2013 13:31 AxleGreaser wrote: In my experience. + Show Spoiler + (which is short in this game)(so dont listen to me, but do think about what I say.) It is very very hard for a person(you) to see why other people(us) see person(you) as town or scum. When most people I have played with say, " but I was townie town I did X" , then its usually true that doing or not doing X actually had very little weight in my decision/guess about what PM I thought they received. People seem to think its concrete things, like, asked questions voted this or that. (which are easily observable and changeable behaviours, hence for me often poor WIFOMY scum tells. Though they do have weight too.) IIRC voting for onegu when you did looked townie, but one possible (less likely) scum story for it ... if the scum QT had wifomed themselves into thinking he(onegu) was dead meat and they wanted to seriously pencil in the three man lylo play if it came down to Stim then they might be willing to risk something to buy Stim some townyness now. Note: I don't actually care if that is or is not a good idea for a scum, it is always possible scum are not making good plays.... Also scum often split their votes on a scumVtown lynch. As for what made you look town, if I could just tell you then you(and everyone) could just do that as scum, _unless_ it was something that is hard to do as scum. My current best guess is that if you try to write this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19007111 when you actually have a scum PM, it will look different. It will look different in ways you will find very hard to avoid. That the game is hard like that is why it is fun and challenging. That the post would have disagreed with my personal interpretation of the events is not as important, as me believing that is you trying to work that out. + Show Spoiler + Why was you green? it was green because IMO there are players on the forum that can make that post or its equivalent as scum. For them merely making that post is not a significant town tell. Thank you for your kind explanation and advice ^^ I'll make sure to read, understand, and keep what you wrote in mind while playing Mafia. It's a big help when a veteran player share his/her wisdom. A side note: From what I hear, is ObviousOne like a god of TL mafia? XD | ||
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