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On June 10 2013 05:57 Spicydinosaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 05:49 Gotard wrote:On June 10 2013 03:36 Onegu wrote:On June 09 2013 07:34 StiMaDDict wrote:Since the deadline is very close I will make this request short and clear. LoneMeow is a mafia. Kill him tonight if you are Vigilante. We have a solid case against him and his interaction with Firere345 (proven scum) further indicate that he is up to no good. I'm not sure whether he is afk or something but he is not even defending himself even though he is in a tight spot. Also he only made these two posts which in my opinion is contentless and weak. On June 08 2013 14:06 LoneMeow wrote:
Good morning, and good job on the lynch. I'll need a while to read everything that has happened but if anyone's here feel free to ask what's on your mind in the meanwhile. On June 08 2013 15:42 LoneMeow wrote:
Crap, running out of time.
Essentially, since voting is mandatory, I had to choose between Firere345 (who I mostly wanted to lynch for lurking so much and not really being very useful when he was around) and Gotard, on whom there was a relatively good case. Originally, I thought Gotard looked way too brash to be scum, but then he went on the "wasting time on me" tangent which felt scummy, discussing opinions on anyone is useful even if the target is later proven town. Just a quick question on this? Why ask for a vig kill on him so strongly, i find this quite scummy actually. I am not sure the case is so solid either, people said the samething on gotard and that didnt really turn out so well. Unless the case is a complete slamdunk I dont believe the vig should kill definitely not the first night. But why would be do that as mafia? If you do things like that and person that you request to kill turns out to be town you are in really bad position next day. Hypothetically its an easy way to kill a townie. Say LoneMeow was shot last night and flipped town. There would be some back lash against the one who said to pull the trigger but the defense would be "he looked so scummy everyone was on him." Then the vig will probably reveal himself to confirm himself as town. You have a little chaos and some suspicion on you but u gain a decent amount. I dont think this was scum motivated though.
There are a few other things that worry me a little about StimAddict. I touched on them in my wall.
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He sidelined his vote even though the competing bandwagons came down to 1 vote. If he had voted Gotard, Firere would still have been the lynch because he got to 5 first.
He's not at the top of my scumpile by any means. The stuff that bothers me about him have more to do with his lack of effect on the outcome of day 1. Pleading with invisible and probably non-present lurkers. Sidelined vote in bandwagon race where nearly all players took a stand one way or another about the 2 main bandwagons.
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On June 09 2013 07:00 Spicydinosaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 06:28 Umasi wrote:On June 07 2013 20:59 LoneMeow wrote:On June 07 2013 19:19 Onegu wrote:
Lonemeow what is your strongest scum read at this point? I would also ask yavanna the same thing. It's not really a strong scum read at all, but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so. This situation with Gotard has me worried, I can understand why people would want to lynch him but I'm having hard time convincing myself scum would dare be so brash. Just food for thought, but if this is before people truly looked into Firere as a lynch candidate and "merely someone scummy", why would Lonemeow as scum talk about him as his strongest scum read? I don't think it was an attempt to build town cred/bus/whatever the term is, because the wagon hadn't even really started. That said, it really was just slipped in there, and he didn't assert it at all, but it really throws off my read on him, which was "probably scum". Well scum have to interact with each other and that sometimes includes throwing suspicion around just to mess with you. Lone says he has a scum read on firere but doesnt vote him. If Lone actually put his vote on firere then we would be having a different conversation as voting is a stronger indication of what you are believing than just saying someone is scum. Y ou also point out correctly that a bussing hadn't started yet on firere, so it would be safe for Lone to say he was suspicious of firere without any really worries that he would be lynched. He could then go back later and say "hey look I was right." He only voted Gotard way later when firere had a ton of votes on him. The town cred build up was for later, not immediate cash-in. Personally I'm still not sure on Lone but then being scum buddies makes sense with what i just written.
A bussing hadn't started yet on Firere? When do you think he was bussed?
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SpicyDinosaur, could you give a short rundown of your current scumpile? Who's in it. Who's your top pick, Why?
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We're pretty much on the same page. I have StimAddict hovering close to my scumpile.
Umasi is troubling but his high visibility makes it difficult for me to accept that he's scum.
I'd probably compromise on Yavanna, but right now I want to lynch LoneMeow.
Xzav's posture has changed significantly, but he's still leaning town IMO.
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Interesting. Common themes are emerging I think.
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Is everyone suffering from day 1 burnout or something?
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The title says "ABRIDGED" which usually means parts were left out.
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LoneMeow,
Do you think the cases posted about you are bad?
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Day 1 end happened to coincide with the weekend. My concerns about Xzav will rise considerably if his activity doesn't pick up today.
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On June 10 2013 23:46 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 23:12 fferyllt wrote:
Do you think the cases posted about you are bad? I posted a pretty large rebuttal to StiMaDDict's case. I especially dislike how he didn't bother to update the Firere345/Gotard part of it, even though none of that is anything like valid after Firere345 flipped red. I do admit that I was afk a lot during day 1 and that made the few posts I did manage to write look somewhat worse than they could have been, so the case isn't completely without merit.
I like that your activity has increased, but I'd kind of expect that no matter what your alignment since you've been on the table as a possible lynch.
Last night, reading your convo with Onegu I read a buddying-up vibe to your posts. I'll have to fliter-dive again to confirm this, but my sense is that you have not initiated many interactions other than with Onegu.
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On June 11 2013 00:08 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 23:55 fferyllt wrote:
Last night, reading your convo with Onegu I read a buddying-up vibe to your posts. I'll have to fliter-dive again to confirm this, but my sense is that you have not initiated many interactions other than with Onegu. He was about the only one around, so I could hardly initiate interactions with anyone else :/ He's also on my list of suspicious people, though not at the top at the moment. I really didn't like his vote on day 1 being outside the wagons, that's somewhat counterproductive for town.
I wasn't talking about just last night.
I think you had something like 12 posts before day 1 nightfall. In the early part of day 1 you did ask some questions of other players. As the day grew more heated and the 2 main bandwagons began to shape up, not so much. Your posts became more reactive and observational. caveat - 12 posts, most of which were made in the first few hours of day 1 are not much to base a trajectory on.
And there was literally no trajectory leading to your vote post.
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the overall activity level of day 2 is really irking me, too.
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On June 11 2013 06:11 iVLosK! wrote:lol@ Umasi circling the wagons. Why ask town to lynch you? If you're town you should want their votes on scum, not wasted on you.  I laugh because you're doing a damn good impersonation of my scum-play with all this "Im not even going to try to respond because YES, I AM SCUMMY. But when I flip town..." I think I'd like to kill you today, Umasi. ##Unvote
##Vote: UmasiIf I were a gambling man, (and I am) I'd put 20 bucks on Lone flipping town. Just a gut feel.
I feel like scum might be perfectly happy with how today is going.
##Unvote
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On June 11 2013 06:38 iVLosK! wrote:
I've liked his content better than yours since the flip. Like I said, gut feel. I haven't read either of your filters since D1.
^^ Is this to Umasi?
On June 11 2013 06:45 Umasi wrote:
You may want to reevaluate your gut feel.
Believe it or not, it might be as far off as it could possibly be.
Fferyllt, why do you feel that they're happy with the progress of the day? What tips you off?
The other main bandwagon has been very slow to grow and the thread is seeing a low level of activity compared to day 1. Not a lot of chaff in the water.
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On June 11 2013 06:45 Umasi wrote:
You may want to reevaluate your gut feel.
Believe it or not, it might be as far off as it could possibly be.
Fferyllt, why do you feel that they're happy with the progress of the day? What tips you off?
The other main bandwagon has been very slow to grow and the thread is seeing a low level of activity compared to day 1. Not a lot of chaff in the water.[/QUOTE]
The other side of this coin, though, is that if Lonemeow is scum, the final scum may either be distancing as much as possible, or may be so well hidden among the more town-looking players that sticking with the herd is the best bet for long term survival.
I'm getting kinda sick of filter-diving btw.
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On June 11 2013 07:34 Umasi wrote:
Fferyllt, do you think scum bussed day one?
I am going to ask everyone this, just so you guys know. Feel free to answer.
There's nothing against answering this question, and it won't incriminate you, and it's not like it'll misdirect attention from me or anything so feel free to just TALK.
I don't know. In a true newbie game I would say not likely. This is not a "true" newbie game. There is a wide variety of background and experience level in this game, and I'm not sure I have everyone's level of experience pegged.
I'd expect no more than one additional scum on the Firere wagon, though.
I'll be shocked if all three scum were on the same day 1 bandwagon tbh.
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