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On June 11 2013 12:20 fferyllt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 12:12 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 11 2013 12:06 fferyllt wrote:On June 11 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
If we have investigative roles I think Umasi is the perfect target since he is now highest on people's list. If we can clear him/ condemn him at night, itll free up the day to look at another. I would say forget Umasi, for investigation given Yavanna's interactions with/about him that I posted earlier. What do you think, Spicydinosaur? I tend to agree given the quote you brought up though I'm hesitant to completely give him a pass since Yavanna never did actually put a vote down. Who do you think invests should focus on them? I think her posts, which all put him in a bad light even before that final post where she built on my comments, make him a lower priority than some others. Do you think her posts sucking up to Xzav semi-clear him as well? She made one comment to Onagu, and that's the level of interaction that I tend to find associative, but aside from that one hellaciously defensive post he made, he hasn't pinged much. I should look over Onagu's day 2 posts again. I don't think she would have interacted with me at all if I hadn't written a wall to/about her. There was a comment she made about iV as well.
I dont think the post sucking up to Xzav clears him. I went back through her filter and found this reply to something I said about firere... and she agrees with me.
On June 07 2013 02:34 Yavanna wrote:Show nested quote +@Firere345 seems to be only sheeping. He agrees with Umasi's post about iVLosK! and then asks a pointless mod question about a jester. Reading the first page of the thread tells you what roles are possible in this game and jester is NOT on it. So why ask it? A true newbie to this game would probably read that first page up and down multiple times. So far he feels pretty scummy. I like this a lot. Spicy, you said to pressure lurkers. This is where I’d want to put some pressure. Where you at Firere? There are a couple other lurky fuckers still, but this guy shows up, randomly agrees with Umasi’s post but he never follows up, in fact he doesn’t explain anything. At all. That bugs me.
Given this I think it shows that Yavanna was spreading out her criticism to multiple people, scum included. She was openly critical of a fellow scum player, even if it was only sheeping.
I'm off to bed now and ill look more at her filter and interactions in the morning.
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On June 11 2013 20:20 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 12:54 Onegu wrote:On June 11 2013 12:24 Xzavier wrote:
I know im town, but if you guys want to put investigative roles on me to check, go ahead. but id rather have them searching for scum over "clearing a townie"
you said yourself were here to hunt scum right now.
And yes im town. I had an inactive day yesterday. that probably wont happen again for the rest of this game.
Onagu and Stimaddict are my prime two suspects, those are who we probably should devote our resources too, unless somebdoy has a better idea? (if so share) Except many people have put scum reads on you. Also anyone getting rolechecked and has a town alignment is confirmed town at this point because the godfather is dead. Sorry re reading the OP it is possible if we have a SK they can choose cop immunity, so we may still not be able to confirm town...
And theres usually 1 miller in the game so a check should just be used as more info to figure it out, not be definitive.
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Here are some thoughts on Onegu.
Onegu and Yavanna have this conversation early in the game
On June 06 2013 23:15 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 22:40 Yavanna wrote:On June 06 2013 21:55 Onegu wrote:
Skanjab what is your biggest problem with spicydino is he has had good post on the lurker issue, I am getting a town vibe from him. The strongest read I have is on iVlosk as town t this point, but a wish he would curse less. xzav is also giving me a very strong town vibe. Umasi is my only scummy read as he fueled the iV rant even after it most likely should have been moved on from it. Also the whole brocuff thing. Also what are your guys thought on finding a serial killer? Could you explain this a little further to me? Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town. I got more of a bruised ego vibe than anything. I'm open to discussion on it though. Can you add anything to your case that might sway me? In other news, I'm trying to discern atm about LoneMeow. He had some input on the lurker lynch issue but since he's just asked a couple questions without any real opinions of his own. Thoughts? Ok 2 things the first he kept the iV thing going on alot lomger than it needed to be. Secomd and the thing that made me feel the most was he would make a statement and when the majority had different ideals he would conform to them. This is what feels like he is scum.
Yavanna seems to be wanting to get Onegu to explain his posts more in a very odd fashion.
In this next quote, Onegu down plays my criticism of firere by saying its just noobish.
On June 07 2013 21:54 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 21:39 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 07 2013 14:28 Firere345 wrote:
sorry for it being over 24 hours since my last post. I went to sleep right after my last post and have spent all my free time catching up today(which wasn't much). Fortunately, tonight was my last night of having prior commitments, so I will be much more active.
To meow, who asked my opinion of Vlosk a few pages back, he's obv not my top scum read atm, but engaging shitfests isn't the towniest thing to do. As for my current reads, though, Xzav is the only one who would make me really surprize dto flip scum.
Umasi and Gotard don't have any defense against their accusations, so I find it hard to not be biased by thecurrent town consensus. Gut says both bad, Umasi town, Gotard maf, if only for lynching the one guy who we all should agree is mister town.
As for the jester question, the forum I used to play on was very inconsistent. The OP would only state basic roles, yet there would end up being bus drivers or phychics as flips, so I just wanted to make sure that Jest was not a role and that we wouldn't give up a day 1 loss to a jester. So scummy. Makes excuses for his absence, then promises more analysis that never came and simply sheeps other's opinion. Vote is staying on him. I would really like to hear from him also to see if he really was absent or just lurking. But lets be honest alot of people are sheeping, I think that is just noobish at this point. The thing I have been looking at is offering a thought on someone then sheeping once a majority is on someone else.
This next quote is Onegu down playing fferyllt's criticism of Yavanna.
On June 07 2013 22:16 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 21:44 fferyllt wrote:On June 07 2013 16:40 Onegu wrote:
Ebwop
Say who or what you are thinking dont just fish for ideas. The person I am thinking about is Yavannah. Her posts did get better after I pushed her a little yesterday. As I was driving home last night and thinking about the game I was trying to figure out what it is about her play that still bothers me. And I realized it was the contrast with some of the other players who said they are new to the game. She seems so sure of her town reads. I dont really have that feeling at this point. Has she said this is her first game? So far people have had some very strong reads and I dont think that makes you scummy. Why would scum want to say strong reads at this point when just sheeping is a better way of hideing.
The last two quotes I think are far more important than the interaction with Yavanna as she was trying to be friendly with everyone. The subtle defense of two non confirmed scum has me questioning whether his vote for Umasi was just to put a vote on someone else so he wouldnt look suspicious on the wagon.
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EBWOP: The last two quotes I think are far more important than the interaction with Yavanna as she was trying to be friendly with everyone. The subtle defense of two now confirmed scum has me questioning whether his vote for Umasi was just to put a vote on someone else so he wouldnt look suspicious on the wagon.
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On June 12 2013 03:12 Onegu wrote:
And if you want to look at someone defending firere and yavanna look at xzavier filter.
I'm looking at everyone. You just happened to be the first and I posted some things I thought were relevant. You too can post their quotes defending them... fferyllt and I shouldn't be the only ones filter diving.
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Well either the jail keeper protected the right person from attack or they jailed the attacker.
Also I think we can rule out SK at this point.
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On June 12 2013 09:41 fferyllt wrote:
There are other possibilities.
True, veteran took the hit, medic healed.
Do you want to reveal those roles now though? I want to see first if an invest role found anything.
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He was saying it because the way i wrote it sounded like i didnt consider other possibilities.
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On June 12 2013 10:24 Umasi wrote:
why would we have any reason to think there is a serial killer?
"what if"
"what if"
literally zero evidence supports it. There may very well just NOT BE A SERIAL KILLER.
Fuck, if no one claims, the only thing we can be sure of is a masoner (because he flipped) and a cop (because there was a godfather)
Worrying about the SK at this point is entirely irrelevant. We can worry about it once we see two kills and no vigilante claim
Why write this rant? the only mention of an sk that came after night actions was by me... which said not to worry about it which is exactly what u said.
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You are completely missing everything. Your rant is not justified.
On June 12 2013 09:36 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Well either the jail keeper protected the right person from attack or they jailed the attacker.
Also I think we can rule out SK at this point.
On June 12 2013 09:41 fferyllt wrote:
There are other possibilities.
This was directed at my jail keeper comment. Not my SK comment as you can see by my response
On June 12 2013 09:54 Spicydinosaur wrote:True, veteran took the hit, medic healed. .
This really didn't need to be spelled out Umasi it was pretty clear.
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Umasi this will be my last post on the subject so not to spam the thread up.
No one is saying there is an SK right now and everyone is scum hunting. "he" in that context should have been a she since it was fferyllt. We were talking about possible reasons why there was a no kill, that is all.
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On June 12 2013 11:11 iVLosK! wrote:Oh shit that was probably the jail, lol. Somebody tried to shoot me and I was jailed. Thanks, Jailer. You're a peach. 
Did it say you were attacked or just roleblocked/jailed?
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On June 12 2013 11:17 fferyllt wrote:
Who got a message on night 1?
I did. roleblocked and jailed. You receive both messages. Didn't want to tip off scum that there was a jailor D2 so thats why I wrote this.
On June 10 2013 01:56 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Ok caught up on the reading and here are some thoughts.
1. I want to see the complete mason logs between skanjab1 and iVLosK! as a partial reveal just feels a bit suspicious.
2. (speculation) Skan was probably killed because scum feared that the more vocal townies were protected at night. Or Vlosk is uber pro scum and had me fooled (hope not).
3. We only had 1 night kill so there is less likely a chance of an sk. If a jailor was on someone last night I would say keep up the roleblock just to be safe.
4. No vigi kill can mean a few things... either we don't have a vig, the vig didn't want to shoot, or they are unable to shoot till night 2.
5. Yavanna needs to speak up a lot today and the fact she didn't vote is quite troubling (as is the fact she is still alive).
6. As for lone... I want to see more of his posts before I throw a vote on him. Also Lone... who are your scum reads atm.
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On June 12 2013 11:22 iVLosK! wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 11:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 12 2013 11:17 fferyllt wrote:
Who got a message on night 1? I did. roleblocked and jailed. You receive both messages. Didn't want to tip off scum that there was a jailor D2 so thats why I wrote this. Which mod sent you yours? Mine is from OO and it just says "You were roleblocked." End of message.
2 separate messages. First from Sylencia saying i was jail kept. Second from Acrofales saying that just in case I didn't know, I was roleblocked.
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On June 12 2013 11:28 fferyllt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 11:26 iVLosK! wrote:On June 12 2013 11:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 12 2013 11:22 iVLosK! wrote:On June 12 2013 11:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 12 2013 11:17 fferyllt wrote:
Who got a message on night 1? I did. roleblocked and jailed. You receive both messages. Didn't want to tip off scum that there was a jailor D2 so thats why I wrote this. Which mod sent you yours? Mine is from OO and it just says "You were roleblocked." End of message. 2 separate messages. First from Sylencia saying i was jail kept. Second from Acrofales saying that just in case I didn't know, I was roleblocked. Mine is just one message. They probably figured I didn't need the "In case you didn't know...". But it was a role block, not a jail keep message?
Scum roleblocker is dead, no town roleblocker except for jailer. Unless you think there are two 2 scum roleblockers the language doesn't really matter.
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Alright looking at Stim.... he tunnels lone for 2 days straight while not looking at anyone else. It looks bad... but is that really something a last scum would do? He would know that when lone flipped he would be next day target. Anyone else feeling this way?
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On June 12 2013 11:43 Xzavier wrote:
How many blues are normally in a setup like this? One is dead, were assuming another is a town roleblocker/medic/vigi?
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Last newbie game there were 2 blues, 1 miller, and on the scum side... role cop, 1 shot roleblocker, goon.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407058
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@iVLosK! thats from the movie "From dusk till dawn." Classic movie from before your time.
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On June 12 2013 12:00 fferyllt wrote:
That happy thought killed the thread.
Well I brought up Stim but no one noticed
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On June 12 2013 12:04 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 12:01 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 12 2013 12:00 fferyllt wrote:
That happy thought killed the thread. Well I brought up Stim but no one noticed Actually I went back and checked he makes 2 posts with just fluff after day 2 results then nothing since. Possible he just afk'd and didnt make a action...
But do think his actions were scum... that was my question. Tunneling one person and barely posting doesnt sound like a long term scum strategy to me.
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