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iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:06 GMT
#337
On June 06 2013 13:01 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 12:58 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:56 Xzavier wrote:
##vote:iVlosk!
Ill take this vote back when you defend yourself with logic over brofists

Keep it there, then. I like my brofists.

Just explain why you think what you do, why you made a preemptive excuse, and why you like your brofists. Liking brofists is BAD. Brofists are emotional. We, as town, do not want emotional. We want thought and logic.

See above.
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iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:08 GMT
#338
On June 06 2013 12:40 Firere345 wrote:
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On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:

I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.
At this point I'm leaning towards scum.


Yeah, the random lynch vote also leads me in that direction.

Gut feel, the Toss is scum.

I made it very clear that my vote was not a "lynch vote" by saying I would remove it when the player told me who he was.
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iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:10 GMT
#341
On June 06 2013 12:57 Umasi wrote:
##VOTE iVLosK!

Why are you asking to be voted upon this early?

FOS's are weak and can be easily backed down from.

I like for my accusers to put their money where their mouth is.
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iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:12 GMT
#343
On June 06 2013 13:09 Xzavier wrote:
You still havnt given a pro-town motivation for defending lurkers. and imo there isnt one. lurking hurts the town. says so in every guide iv read.

And sometimes lurkers are town and you end up using your lynch on a townie instead of finding scum. Says so in every logic I've read.

I didn't say "I'll never vote for a lurker." I said "This is a noob game, there are going to be lots of lurkers, I will use my own discretion regardless of activity levels."
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:16 GMT
#347
On June 06 2013 13:11 Umasi wrote:
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On June 06 2013 13:05 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:57 Umasi wrote:
##VOTE iVLosK!

Why are you asking to be voted upon this early?
I think that what you're doing is antagonistic. I think that, if you were townie, you'd voice concern about these weak FOS's, try to correct them, and develop reads on us based on that. You didn't correct them....You're asking for votes on you.
That's confusing, and not wise no matter the case.
You wouldn't be poking the fire if you were town, and scum wants to poke the fire. Or at least, you wouldn't have motivation to poke the fire as town, but you would as scum.
If mafia want to sow confusion, why are you doing something I think is scum-like, if you are town?
Since I feel confused, I'm feeling even more of a scum read on you, so my vote rests.

First underline: Ask that other guy from OMGUS who my vote is on. I give literally zero fucks about your FOS's. In my original post where I "excused myself for future scumminess" or whatever, I was simply stating that I'll do what I want regardless of what you think is scummy. If I don't want to vote for a lurker, I won't. And if I feel like voting for a lurker, bet your fine ass that I will. Regardless of what I've said in the past.

Second underline: Maybe you should adjust what you think is "scum-like." I would suggest it, actually. If you and I are going to be friends. I would like to be friends.

Also "since I feel confused, you are therefore scum." is literally the dumbest thing that I have ever heard in my life. And I actually laughed quietly to myself upon reading it.

First of all, thanks for saying something other than brofists as a response.
Second, your second underline: I'll make this clear.
Scum want to sow confusion and get emotional. I think brofists is an emotional term. Scum want to sow confusion, and you did not do something to figure things out, you, as I said, "poked the fire". Don't try to say that's not what scum want to do, that's the entire POINT of what scum wants to do. I'm not sure you're scum, but I think you've a better chance of flipping scum than anyone else here at this point.

And I still think you were trying to excuse yourself for future scumminess, which I dislike.

1. I wasn't the one who used the term brofists, I believe that was Xzavier.

2. I don't think my remarks were particularly confusing. I said, and bear with me, this must be the 4th time. "I don't like lynching lurkers in a noob game. But I will lynch the fuck out of some lurkers if I feel like they're scum." And then I said "I don't really care if you think this is scummy." The fact that you find that confusing really isn't my fault.

3. Then we can't be friends then.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:18 GMT
#348
Where the fuck is my OMGUS friend?
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:22 GMT
#351
On June 06 2013 13:19 Onegu wrote:
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On June 06 2013 13:12 Xzavier wrote:
I was at first to. but the more he posts the less pro-town he gets. he could b the fucking SK for all i know.


Haha this actually makes sense. It doesnt seem he is pro town or pro mafia. But if he is mafia I am confused so he did his job well...

Yes... Yes. I am now in possession of the majority of votes. Everything is going exactly according to my nefarious plan.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:23 GMT
#356
fferyllt and Onegu. You guys are saying you think Im scum but your votes aren't on me. I don't like that shit, throw 'em on.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:26 GMT
#358
On June 06 2013 13:22 Umasi wrote:
You're right, brofists was not a term you coined. You ran with it though.
Even aside from brofists, I think that telling us to vote you is stupid. Scum? maybe! stupid? yes!
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE VOTED.
I DO NOT THINK THERE IS A JESTER
if you want us to put our money where our mouth is, and we are, and you aren't responding to our "money", then what are we supposed to think? I'm going to back up and reread everything in this exchange to make sure I'm not overlooking something, but my feeling on you keeps growing scummier, just because of the tone of your responses.
There is a possibility I'm just awful! or overlooking something! so I'll go reread.

I do not think that talking about lurkers is important with iV, just what has resulted from it.

1. No but you've responded to me. Which is all I need, silly billy.

2. This is a distinct possibility.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:28 GMT
#360
On June 06 2013 13:25 fferyllt wrote:
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On June 06 2013 13:23 iVLosK! wrote:
fferyllt and Onegu. You guys are saying you think Im scum but your votes aren't on me. I don't like that shit, throw 'em on.

The hell I am. I'm saying I am leaning town on you, brah.

Aight denn, brah. Welcome to the smart kids club. Let's talk about smart kid things while these punks try to figure me out. (Pro tip: You can't.)
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:34 GMT
#364
On June 06 2013 13:33 Xzavier wrote:
Why wouldnt you want the town to trust you?? Or figure you out. only blue roles & mafia have something to hide?

"Let them hate me, so long as they fear me."

As long as you guys don't lynch me, you can throw as many votes on me as you like.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:38 GMT
#370
On June 06 2013 13:36 fferyllt wrote:
You know who wants town to trust them? Scum, that's who.

You are right, to a degree. You're in the smart kids club, so we can talk about this. There is always value in establishing your innocence, if you're town.

Though sometimes, a little pressure has it's uses.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:40 GMT
#373
On June 06 2013 13:38 Xzavier wrote:
Then your saying you dont care if we waste precious votes that could b used to lynch scum. this makes no sense. thats the scummiest thing iv seen again. your gonna get lynched if you keep this up.

Damn, twice in one night? I'm on a roll.


That or you're easily impressed. But I'd prefer to believe the former.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:44 GMT
#377
On June 06 2013 13:41 Xzavier wrote:
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On June 06 2013 13:36 fferyllt wrote:
You know who wants town to trust them? Scum, that's who.

Everybody wants trust. thats how you win. Read the flipside of that sentance: who DOESNT want town to trust them? Nobody.

*raises hand*

Like I said, I give 273 degress Kelvin shits if you trust me.

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Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:48 GMT
#380
On June 06 2013 13:47 Umasi wrote:
Onegu: Four posts. I can't make a read on this, but I lean town gut-wise
tE_: no-posts, null
Firere: I agree, it seems too easy. not that it can't be easy. slightly-town null
Stimm: null, no post
Ffer: waiting to see post, slightly town atm
Spicy: I agree with what he said game-theory wise, but that tells me nothing -null
Gotard:no post, null
Xzavier: I agree with what he's said, and lean straight town
Yavanna: Hasn't said much. Laughed at my stupid cat joke, tells me nothing. null
umasi: towniest motherfucker
Skan: no posts, null
iV: Leaning heavy scum, but harbor doubts. can't rationalize anything he does as town, but I can't rationalize what he's doing as scum indicative either, just scummier LEANING.
LoneMeow: one post, who gives a shit, null.

Conclusion: GET MORE PEOPLE TO FUCKING POST

I was wondering when someone would make a shitty list post.

Duely fucking noted, sir.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:51 GMT
#384
On June 06 2013 13:49 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:43 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:38 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:37 fferyllt wrote:
All this earnestness is very touching. I'm firming up some more reads, I think.

Tell us what you think so far, I will start writing my list.

Most of what I'm seeing so far looks town-on-town.

And I see trepidation about how serious early votes are, which looks pretty newb to me. Everybody in the game could vote the same player in this next hour and it might not mean a thing in terms of who eventually gets lynched.

iVLosK! is provoking lots of reactions and that is good. It gives other players stuff to think about and analyze about every player involved, not just iVLosK!.

This actually makes sense. if i think about it like that then its a pro-town and pro-mafia motive. more likely pro-town cuz mafia would be scared shitless. this convinced me. You sir, are town and a buddie. ( why would mafia want to stop this banter)

Scared shitless? I have no fear, regardless of alignment. I fart in the face of death.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:53 GMT
#385
On June 06 2013 13:50 Umasi wrote:
iV, you DO care if people trust you.
THAT IS HOW YOU WIN THE GAME
You can't be correct on every read and win without convincing everyone else to go along with your read.

Wait for it...





Wait for it...

On June 06 2013 13:50 Xzavier wrote:
##unvote iVosk!

Huh, I guess he trusts me. And I did it all without making some shitty "plan" that I'm not going to follow anyway. Go figure.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 04:59 GMT
#390
On June 06 2013 13:54 Umasi wrote:
My vote rests on you, but in light of Xzav pulling out, I'd be open to other lynch candidates.
I'd 100% rather lynch you than some lurker though.

"pulling out"
teeheehee.

Oh yeah? Well as soon as that random OMGUSer shows up, Im gonna take my vote of him and put it on you. The accumulated filth from all your badness and lack of player reading ability will foam up about your waist and you will look up and shout "Save me!" ... and I'll whisper "No."

How does that make you feel?
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:03 GMT
#392
On June 06 2013 13:59 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:53 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:43 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:38 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:37 fferyllt wrote:
All this earnestness is very touching. I'm firming up some more reads, I think.

Tell us what you think so far, I will start writing my list.

Most of what I'm seeing so far looks town-on-town.

And I see trepidation about how serious early votes are, which looks pretty newb to me. Everybody in the game could vote the same player in this next hour and it might not mean a thing in terms of who eventually gets lynched.

iVLosK! is provoking lots of reactions and that is good. It gives other players stuff to think about and analyze about every player involved, not just iVLosK!.

I agree that iV provoking votes is good, I disagree that it's town on town, assuming iV is included in the town.
it's giving us stuff to think about, but is it the correct stuff to think about? It wouldn't have taken much to settle the at the beginning minor accusation. If he did diffuse it, town could be doing OTHER productive things.
I wish he'd diffused it, I really do. I think everyone else getting involved in the discussion around iV is town except for iV, who hasn't actually given me a fucking reason to think he's town.

If he'd diffused it, then I probably wouldn't have any town reads in my hip pocket right now. And I'd be suspicious as fuck of him for trying to smooth things over.

This guy gets a fucking gold star. Keeping up with me (almost) every step of the way.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 05:04 GMT
#394
On June 06 2013 14:03 fferyllt wrote:
I'm not a guy.

This non-gender-specific being gets a gold star. Gold star for you, non-gender-specific being!
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