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Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 06:24 GMT
#424
I have to say, being away for a couple hours has led to some very entertaining reading.
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 06:43 GMT
#430
Xzav, you seem to have your shit together. Probably my strongest town read atm and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna sheep the shit out of you in the future.

Now that I've ruffled your feathers, maybe you'll help me out a bit. Just so I know we are on the same page, you think iV is town now? I would concur with that analysis. Is it too early to ask for your opinion on anyone else who's posted so far? Humor me, I'm bored as shit and looking for some good convo.
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 06:58 GMT
#434
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That's just me being a whiny emotional bitch.


I dig this a lot. Way to man up. I respect that. I can understand why he was egging you on though. It did help to start some discussion. Sorry you had to be "that guy". lol. Are you at a null read on iV? I'm really feeling him as uber town, but its so early in the game and so many people haven't posted shit its hard to have a conclusive read on anyone. Or maybe that's just my inexperience talking.
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 07:07 GMT
#438
Ok, well town's opinion aside, go with your gut here. Besides his overall abrasive attitude and the fact that he basically poked you with a stick, what is it that gives you a scum vibe from him? I feel like if he were scum he wouldn't be so in your face with it. I could be terribly wrong though.
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 07:10 GMT
#440
nm, shoulda refreshed before I posted. whoops.

Word, if Xzav flips scum I will bow to him. lol
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 07:11 GMT
#441
On June 06 2013 16:09 Xzavier wrote:
He might just be sensitive town lol.



LOLOL
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 07:18 GMT
#443
On June 06 2013 16:07 Xzavier wrote:
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On June 06 2013 15:43 Yavanna wrote:
Xzav, you seem to have your shit together. Probably my strongest town read atm and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna sheep the shit out of you in the future.

Now that I've ruffled your feathers, maybe you'll help me out a bit. Just so I know we are on the same page, you think iV is town now? I would concur with that analysis. Is it too early to ask for your opinion on anyone else who's posted so far? Humor me, I'm bored as shit and looking for some good convo.

Umasi is over reacting or unnaturally emotional. but at the momet i want to hear from more. the enlightening genderless being is probably town as well. being he stopped the arguement and explained iV's actions for us. thats about all i know. and i just read a fuckton of guides.



I read a bunch of them too and followed a couple of games before I joined in. Still not nearly as confident as you seem to be. I'm thinking you should be my unofficial mafia spirit guide.
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 07:23 GMT
#448
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits?
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 07:24 GMT
#450
I'm sucking up to Xzav because he, so far, has impressed the balls off of me. When/if he drops the ball I'll make sure to be the first to catch it.
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 07:30 GMT
#454
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!

No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least.
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 07:33 GMT
#456
I'm doing some filter diving now. Almost seems pointless with the activity level so far but I'll let you know if anything jumps out.
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 13:40 GMT
#476
On June 06 2013 21:55 Onegu wrote:
Skanjab what is your biggest problem with spicydino is he has had good post on the lurker issue, I am getting a town vibe from him. The strongest read I have is on iVlosk as town t this point, but a wish he would curse less. xzav is also giving me a very strong town vibe. Umasi is my only scummy read as he fueled the iV rant even after it most likely should have been moved on from it. Also the whole brocuff thing. Also what are your guys thought on finding a serial killer?


Could you explain this a little further to me? Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town. I got more of a bruised ego vibe than anything. I'm open to discussion on it though. Can you add anything to your case that might sway me?

In other news, I'm trying to discern atm about LoneMeow. He had some input on the lurker lynch issue but since he's just asked a couple questions without any real opinions of his own. Thoughts?
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 17:34 GMT
#489
@Firere345 seems to be only sheeping. He agrees with Umasi's post about iVLosK! and then asks a pointless mod question about a jester. Reading the first page of the thread tells you what roles are possible in this game and jester is NOT on it. So why ask it? A true newbie to this game would probably read that first page up and down multiple times. So far he feels pretty scummy.


I like this a lot. Spicy, you said to pressure lurkers. This is where I’d want to put some pressure. Where you at Firere? There are a couple other lurky fuckers still, but this guy shows up, randomly agrees with Umasi’s post but he never follows up, in fact he doesn’t explain anything. At all. That bugs me.

As to fferyl’s posts about my play...You are right, I am new to mafia. From what I’ve read though, I don’t think someone needs to necessarily be a dick to play this game effectively. If I seem overly nice, so be it. I can’t change my personality. If you say something solid, props to you, if you say something stupid, then I’ll change my tune.


It's not just the sweetness and light, it's who she engages with to ask questions vs who she makes 3rd perosn observations about. i.e., interacting directly with town reads asking questions that aren't likely to refine those reads but look engaged.



At the time I asked these questions, the only people in thread responding were people I’ve placed town reads on. I ask for clarification because I am generally interested in what some people find as scum play. I want to make sure the town is all on the same page. Is that not a good mentality to have? Part of playing this game, as far as I can understand, is making sure the town is all on the same page so that we can collectively lynch mafia. How do I do this without asking questions?
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 18:37 GMT
#498
Do you have someone who is a high priority to get sorted?


Atm I'm interested in hearing from firere and LM.
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 20:39 GMT
#512
Fferllyt

I read what you wrote on Umasi. There’s a few things I’d add after taking a closer look at his filter

On June 07 2013 02:13 fferyllt wrote:
His first several posts have an enthusiastic and confused newb feel. As iL mentioned (I'm not writing your name out any more because I'm lazy) his trajectory on and off his first vote was confusing. It looked like a random vote, and I don't understand why he decided to remove it so quickly unless maybe it was because nobody else was voting randomly...in which case, hmm. Maybe natural town herd movement. Maybe trying to fit in.

The early vote stuck in my mind too. It looked really self-conscious. If you are voting to raise discussion, why does it get removed as soon as someone mentions it? It looks like he had no goal at all with the early vote, as pretty much no positive discussion has been generated by it. The guides said look for both town and scum motivation behind postings, and I am having trouble seeing the town motivation behind a 5 second vote.

The rest of his votes too seem like he is playing to some agenda, not earnestly trying to lynch scummy people.

This quote too raised my eyebrows:
On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:
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On June 06 2013 11:13 iVLosK! wrote:
Lynching lurkers isn't a strategy that I really like in a noobie game. What we'll find is that some people just signed up and fucked off, regardless of alignment. Or people who vastly underestimated the amount of time/effort they'd need to put in.

Having said that, I won't be nailed down and if I feel a lurker is scum I'll vote them in a second and you all will be like "Aww Vlosk said he doesn't like lynching lurkers in noob games!"


I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.
At this point I'm leaning towards scum.

Pointing out the possibility of being blue doesn’t sit right with me. We are not blue-hunting. I’m worried that it’s on his mind and so easily popped out because he actually IS blue-hunting in the scum QT. What does everyone make of this?

There’s also a lot to be said for the benefit of the scum team in regards to getting into a shitfest. From the games I’ve read, it causes town to lose focus, and can be a tactic to misdirect town. It makes me nervous that he was so willing to dive in. He has since addressed it, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it cluttered the thread up at the time of the argument. Combined with the stuff you spoke about fferyl, and the stuff I pointed out, I’m very suspicious of Umasi.

If the day ended now, I’d be down with lynching him or Firere. I want to hear what both of them have to say to the accusations against them though, specifically the blue thing (Umasi)
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