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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 08 2013 18:28 GMT
#741
On April 09 2013 03:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 03:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
On April 09 2013 03:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 09 2013 03:11 Lazermonkey wrote:
On April 09 2013 03:00 Ghor wrote:
You have VE as scumread, shouldn't it make you skeptical that he only soft-pushed hopeless during D1 while seeking for reasons to switch to sylencia?

On April 09 2013 00:39 Ghor wrote:
After this part, I went back through something and I'd like to play some advocatus diaboli with myself.

Before the D1 lynch, VE claimed that he wanted to lynch hopeless, and asked people to convince him to prefer Sylencia over Hopeless. Before slowly moving to Sylencia, he actually called hopeless scummy for something, but never voted for him or pushed his lynch afterwards (and a lot in town wanted to lynch hopeless)

On April 03 2013 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I feel like he got caught with his pants down trying to tiptoe around a risk.nuke lynch. He was indirectly supporting the risk.nuke wagon without adding his vote. Regardless of risk.nuke's alignment, that's a suspicious action out of Hopeless. If at the time he felt like risk.nuke was scum (which his whole association BS is supposing) then there's no reason for him to be indirectly supporting the wagon while trying to start a counter-wagon on someone else.

Furthermore he lied about it in the thread. Observe.

On April 03 2013 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 03 2013 01:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hopeless...

On April 02 2013 10:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
[quote]
[quote]
Doesn't seem all that legit to me.



[quote]
Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town.


At this point in time risk had 3 votes on him. You kinda threw some shit at him and called him scummy. What was your intention with this post?

I think risk is scummy but didn't want the day to end that soon. Also wanted to see if anyone agreed with my assessment of the supposed scumslip.

Ghor is annoying as all hell and his intentions behind voting sylencia do not match with his scum read on risk.nuke. He wants sylencia to commit to some type of a read on risk and when he refuses to do so, calls him scum for it. No where does he validate why this is scummy. Combine that with what appears to be a trolling smurf hellbent on behaving like a caveman, and I think he's a good choice for lynch.


On April 03 2013 01:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 03 2013 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hopeless if you really felt that way your vote would be on risk.nuke. You're accusing Ghor of being risk's "scumbuddy" because he's not voting for risk. What the hell are you doing? Not voting for risk. You say Ghor is attacking Sylencia in lieu of pushing risk.nuke. What are you doing? Attacking Ghor in lieu of pushing risk.nuke. Your play is wholly and completely contradictory and scummy as sin. Do you have anything to say for yourself?

My vote on ghor was to get him to answer my bloody question about his stance on risk instead of directing me to his filter.

##Unvote: Ghor
##Vote: risk.nuke


When confronted about his vote on Ghor he says it was to get him to answer his question, but as you can see from the first post, he clearly says that he feels like Ghor should be considered for lynch today. Inconsistent. Scummy.


Which is something that I could see VE doing if he's hopeless' scumbuddy. And I don't see how he just completely skips the strong point he's made against hopeless to ask people to win him over to a sylencia lynch.


Opinions please?
I wouldn't say he soft pushed hopeless. He was quite active in pushing hopeless and was AFAIK the first person to vote him. If hopeless does flip scum, however, I do think that it makes VE look worse.


I agree with the first part.

The second part not so much. Okay so VE hard-pushed Hopeless. Hopeless flips scum. How does that make VE look bad?
Because he looked for an opportunity to jump over to the Sylencia wagon.


And he called out his buddy with me and got him to L-1 if I'm correct?
L-1 = still not lynched.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 08 2013 18:34 GMT
#742
all of this requires me to be scum, which im not so stop talking about this bullshit
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 08 2013 18:35 GMT
#743
Stupid logic to me. Anyway, I'd like to wrap this lynch up soon. If we have another "FUCK, LAST MINUTE HAMMER" situation things will not turn out well.

Hopeless, I said speak, not vote!
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
April 08 2013 18:36 GMT
#744

Im the most bored Count:



VisceraEyes ( 1 ): RebirthOfLeGenD, LazerMonkey
hopeless1der ( 1 ): risk.nuke, Ghor
risk.nuke ( 3 ): hopeless1der, Ghor, RebirthOfLeGenD, Mr. Cheesecake, Hopeless1der
RebirthOfLegend ( 0 ): LazerMonkey, VisceraEyes, Hopeless1der
Mr. Cheesecake ( 1 ): VisceraEyes, risk.nuke, LazerMonkey
Ghor ( 1 ): Mr. Cheesecake, risk.nuke, LazerMonkey

Not Voting ( 0 ):

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. If you see a mistake please notify us. This is instant majority lynch.




http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 08 2013 18:36 GMT
#745
On April 09 2013 03:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Stupid logic to me. Anyway, I'd like to wrap this lynch up soon. If we have another "FUCK, LAST MINUTE HAMMER" situation things will not turn out well.

Hopeless, I said speak, not vote!

I have revised my read on ghor to town. risk is still scum and I want him dead today.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 08 2013 18:38 GMT
#746
On April 09 2013 03:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 03:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Stupid logic to me. Anyway, I'd like to wrap this lynch up soon. If we have another "FUCK, LAST MINUTE HAMMER" situation things will not turn out well.

Hopeless, I said speak, not vote!

I have revised my read on ghor to town. risk is still scum and I want him dead today.


This is all I have ever wanted from you.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 08 2013 19:02 GMT
#747
On April 09 2013 03:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 03:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Stupid logic to me. Anyway, I'd like to wrap this lynch up soon. If we have another "FUCK, LAST MINUTE HAMMER" situation things will not turn out well.

Hopeless, I said speak, not vote!

I have revised my read on ghor to town. risk is still scum and I want him dead today.


How is your read on me of relevance?You wanted to lynch RoL earlier, what about that read?
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 08 2013 19:21 GMT
#748
what about it? I want to lynch risk. If he flips town I'd lynch RoL out of hypocrisy at the moment.
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 08 2013 19:31 GMT
#749
What do you mean, lynch RoL out hypocrisy? Can you give me quick reads of everyone else?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 08 2013 19:58 GMT
#750
ALL THREE OF THE PEOPLE I WOULD LYNCH ARE VOTING FOR RISK I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK TO DO
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 08 2013 20:00 GMT
#751
kill risk
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 08 2013 20:00 GMT
#752
ALL 3 OF US ARE SCUM, WE WERE RIGHT EARLIER!!!
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 08 2013 20:01 GMT
#753
On April 09 2013 05:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
kill VE
fixed
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 08 2013 20:02 GMT
#754
On April 09 2013 05:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 05:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
kill VE
fixed


Actually make a case or something kk? Stop not doing shit and make shit happen.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 08 2013 20:03 GMT
#755
Lazer why do you think I'm scum? Did you ever explain that?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 08 2013 20:06 GMT
#756
Lazer you're the only guy that never thought, from what i can recall, that risk is scum. Have you even interacted with him this game?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 08 2013 20:11 GMT
#757
Holy balls VE, you've been away for a looong time. Where did your former scummy points against hopeless go and is he currently your scumread?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 08 2013 20:28 GMT
#758
I don't know anymore I need to reread. RoL's vote on me was SO BAD and I don't understand why he even suspected me.

Lazer at least has a reason for suspecting me, RoL doesn't even have that.

My contention with Cheese remains, but I guess I see RoL's point about his lynch. Kinda.

I have to reread Hopeless to see where I stand with him. The fact is I preferred to lynch Syl at the end of D1 and there must have been a reason, which is pretty much the rationale behind not really suspecting him at the beginning of D2.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 08 2013 20:33 GMT
#759
On April 09 2013 05:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Lazer you're the only guy that never thought, from what i can recall, that risk is scum. Have you even interacted with him this game?
Not sure, why is it relevant?
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 08 2013 20:35 GMT
#760
SOMEONE DROP THE FUCKIN' HAMMA
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