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Being newb or "vet" (lol) in this game has a low correlation with skill level. It honestly doesn't matter. Here are the 2 essential skills to being good at Mafia whether you roll Town, Scum or something else. Amazingly these 2 things are important for getting by in real life also.
1.) Critical thinking - stop the stupid meta arguments. I've talked about this in the past but this is the biggest reason why most people suck. They are too lazy to think about what's going on in the thread. There is an entire essay that I could, but won't write about why "meta" is terrible. You're doing it wrong and should be aware of sample size and context. For a bunch of people on a Starcraft forum you should know better. Of course it fails in part because people also fail at...
2.) Knowing how to read. Yep, a 3rd grade reading level will make you a formidable player. Who knew! Stop trying to be a hero and be a team player no matter what side you end up on. It really is as simple as following lines of thought.
Many "new players" in their first or second games had shown promise in these 2 areas and gone on to have successful Mafia careers. Don't be a jubjub, read the thread and use your head. Stop being lazy.
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I thought it was
1.) Be Ace
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Thnx ace. I think a third would be the usual "lessons learnt" post game. Think about about what went well and more importantly what could have been done cleaner or even never again.
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you are wrong ace
also AMERICA
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Ace, you mention "reading" as a skill to have. Isn't writing an equally important skill nowadays, with mafia games regularly exceeding 200 pages of thread: writing well so that the people who are reading actually look at your post rather than heap it in with the rest of the thread that they can only skim over due to time/concentration restrictions.
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You forgot "you get what you sow".
There is a very strong correlation between success in mafia and the time you invest in the game. The more you read the better you will understand the thread. This is highly useful as both scum and town. It's hard to post convincingly as scum if you don't know what's going on exactly in the thread and making your posts and story good is of critical importance. Even more so as town you get returns based on what you invest.
Time = Success
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On March 25 2013 23:36 Acrofales wrote:
Ace, you mention "reading" as a skill to have. Isn't writing an equally important skill nowadays, with mafia games regularly exceeding 200 pages of thread: writing well so that the people who are reading actually look at your post rather than heap it in with the rest of the thread that they can only skim over due to time/concentration restrictions.
Yea I probably should have added that but I hold reading to such a high regard. I'm also not sure if writing is that important when you're in a game with a bunch of players that will ignore it no matter how many colors you put in it 
Kind of difficult to bend people to your way of thinking if they aren't smart enough to begin with.
*nod at Palmar. That goes well with the laziness/meta argument.
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Well, there is "meta" and there is "meta"
"Meta" is helpful if you know how to analyze it. Some times it's obvious, some times it's not (and when it's not people usually fail at it).
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kitaman27
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On August 07 2011 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
There Ace goes again, flaunting his literacy in front of all of us.
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Meta is surprisingly useful. While reading and analyzing the thread are a big deall analyzing the player as an individual is a much better skill. There was a lot of talk about this in the post game of personality since Foolishness wrote a very large post about using reaction to know that Acrofales was town and Yamato was scum when in fact both those reads were incorrect. The ability to read a player is much more important than reading a play.
As Palmar said, its all about the amount of time you have. If you have the time to analyze each player individually you will do better than if all you do is analyze the thread. But to analyze the thread as a whole is still better than to not analyze at all.
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Putting the time into the game is the most critical part.
Meta shouldn't matter. Just read the posts critically and decide who's making sense in this particular game.
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i thought it was
1) always shoot night 0
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On March 26 2013 06:01 Caller wrote:
i thought it was
1) always shoot night 0
Shoot early, shoot often.
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On March 25 2013 21:17 Ace wrote:
Being newb or "vet" (lol) in this game has a low correlation with skill level. It honestly doesn't matter. Here are the 2 essential skills to being good at Mafia whether you roll Town, Scum or something else. Amazingly these 2 things are important for getting by in real life also.
1.) Critical thinking - stop the stupid meta arguments. I've talked about this in the past but this is the biggest reason why most people suck. They are too lazy to think about what's going on in the thread. There is an entire essay that I could, but won't write about why "meta" is terrible. You're doing it wrong and should be aware of sample size and context. For a bunch of people on a Starcraft forum you should know better. Of course it fails in part because people also fail at...
2.) Knowing how to read. Yep, a 3rd grade reading level will make you a formidable player. Who knew! Stop trying to be a hero and be a team player no matter what side you end up on. It really is as simple as following lines of thought.
Many "new players" in their first or second games had shown promise in these 2 areas and gone on to have successful Mafia careers. Don't be a jubjub, read the thread and use your head. Stop being lazy.
I think this is the best guide I've ever seen written. Its so true.. If you don't have time to think and read, your chances of winning drop drastically.
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On March 25 2013 21:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I thought it was
1.) Be Ace
I thought it was
1) Don't be Vivi.
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On April 02 2013 13:23 dreamflower wrote:I thought it was 1) Don't be Vivax.
Corrected that for you
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On April 07 2013 05:14 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 13:23 dreamflower wrote:On March 25 2013 21:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I thought it was
1.) Be Ace
I thought it was 1) Don't be Vivax. Corrected that for you
You don't get the joke dodo <3
dreamflower <3 forever immortalized thanks to role of her name
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the problem is people write too much so it's impossible to read the thread
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On April 16 2013 11:28 kushm4sta wrote:
the problem is people write too much so it's impossible to read the thread
Spam is just part of how some people play. Its just something you learn to deal with when you play on TL. In theory it trains your skimming abilities.
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On April 16 2013 11:30 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 11:28 kushm4sta wrote:
the problem is people write too much so it's impossible to read the thread Spam is just part of how some people play. Its just something you learn to deal with when you play on TL. In theory it trains your skimming abilities.
Some people thrive better in the chaotic spam.
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I loathe clicking on someone and seeing a 15+ filter and its not even N1.
Ill generally just call them 'probably town' and move along.
If I end up with too many 'probably town', then I might actually read their filter. Lazy as fuck, I know, but I could go through 4 people in the time it takes me to look at a single marv/hapa/BH filter.
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On April 16 2013 11:28 kushm4sta wrote:
the problem is people write too much so it's impossible to read the thread
That's like half the strategy. When people sit around and do nothing it's to no ones advantage, and makes for an extremely boring game. Though there's NOTHING as frustrating as having to re-read 20 pages of the same thing OVER AND OVER again because RoL wants to fucking troll and be a dick despite saying before the game "we totally got this one this time bro" while Ace is sitting around laughing behind the curtain.
Fuck I just opened and old wound...
But seriously you sign up for these games with the expectation that there will be an immense amount of reading. Imagine reading a book by 30 authors, and they keep making subtle edits every 15 minutes while #VOTING to kill you.
On April 02 2013 13:23 dreamflower wrote:I thought it was 1) Don't be Vivi.
Lol wasn't his brother the one who would always type in different colors every game?
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