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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 05 2013 03:13 GMT
#601
Do you seriously need to post this often?
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 05 2013 03:16 GMT
#602
On April 05 2013 11:53 yamato77 wrote:
Justify your suspicion on Artanis.


He's hiding in plain sight.
On April 05 2013 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 11:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 05 2013 10:10 gonzaw wrote:
On April 05 2013 06:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On April 05 2013 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
3 scum reads:

Caller, RO, Oats.

Why

On April 05 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote:
this whole discussion is stupid until we get the drafting list btw


yes

Gonzaw would you mind telling me what you think of oats, artanis, sharrant, and decondou? Would like to hear someone else's thoughts.


Yo how about YOU tell me what you think of them?
You can't force the wise man to do your bidding, he forces you to do his, and then enlightens you or punishes you accordingly

I have to agree with yamato on Oats.
Makes little sense for scum Oats to "intentionally disrupt" town like this in the drafting phase for no reason (if he's scum), rather than doing so when it matters to them: The Day phase.
No reason to call him scum right now, wait until the game actually "matters" to state so.


So you 5 guys are you sending the 1-5 draft choices? If so it may be better to claim so you don't clash between each other, and so you can convince other people not to take those as well (I already changed my number).
I guess it's too late though, meh.


I initially had a pretty bad feeling about oats, however he's just been too loud for me to think he's scum at this point. I'm rather suspicious of artanis, I actually wanted an opinion on sharrant because I have him as a complete null, and decondou was a red herring which I threw out on a whim. In hindsight you'd be too smart to go for it as scum anyway

currently I have rayn as probable town since I've learned that the most annoying people tend to be town. That being said, I also really don't think RO is scummy.

Also for the record, I'm not trying to force a wise man to do my bidding, just wanna check in with someone who completely played me before :D

Oats is bad town or scum.
Artanis is .. hmm.. idk..
sharrant almost definitely town.
deconduo, leaning on scum at him.
RO = scum. kill him <3


[image loading]
See that rayn^ That's a train. Think of that train as your current case on RO

[image loading]
See that rayn^ That's a train crash. That's what happens when you tunnel without a real case.

Out of curiosity, are there any posts of decondou's that stick out to you that made you think he was scummy?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2013 03:18 GMT
#603
M_Z:
He is non- committal, that makes me think he might be scum.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 05 2013 03:19 GMT
#604
I hate repeating posts; but the spam since the draft was released has gotten out of hand.

Im not going to bother posting anymore till the game starts due to the below.

On April 05 2013 11:13 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways, looking at the top 5 to 10 ppl.

There are many uncertainties in that list (as in barely any filter to even attempt to make a read)
e.g. Sinani/VE/OO etc

This kinda throws out any coordination attempts.

My suggestion is to just choose what you think is beneficial. And if town in the top 5, perhaps have a crack at removing
janitor etc from play.

Best of luck, may scum be vanilla


In short: there is too much uncertainty - in particular with Rayn who has gone off the rails since achieving what he desired.

In fact: since the draft was released, Rayn hasnt seem to give a fuck about coordinating any plan; he just wants RO gone.

Think about that town. See you in 24hrs.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 05 2013 03:21 GMT
#605
On April 05 2013 12:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
M_Z:
He is non- committal, that makes me think he might be scum.

Nice regress.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2013 03:22 GMT
#606
On April 05 2013 12:21 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 12:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
M_Z:
He is non- committal, that makes me think he might be scum.

Nice regress.

What, you tell then who ABSOLUTELY are scum ??
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2013 03:30 GMT
#607
Rayn, even if RO is scum, you'd be making it easier for him to "hide" by....doing whatever the hell you are doing.
Fact: You have 5% justified reasons for thinking RO is scum. Nobody agrees with you
Fact: The more you tunnel him, the more you antagonize others, and the more everybody will start defending RO to react against you. Therefore if RO is scum, the more you do whatever you do, the more people will keep ignoring his scummyness and focus on defending him to counter your unjustified tunnel

So yes, hear my advice (just filter me if it's too much work to search it), and take a step back, you are not doing anybody any favours. Hell, even if you are scum you are not doing your scumteam any favours by being so "obvious".
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 05 2013 03:33 GMT
#608
On April 05 2013 12:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 12:21 Mocsta wrote:
On April 05 2013 12:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
M_Z:
He is non- committal, that makes me think he might be scum.

Nice regress.

What, you tell then who ABSOLUTELY are scum ??

You.

On April 05 2013 10:25 geript wrote:
Mocsta I'm not getting a good feeling about Rayn. Any thoughts about him? Also, you know Oats better than I do. How do you feel about him?
On April 05 2013 10:42 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn: I dont have a firm opinion. I think coming up with a plan, and sticking with it: is alignment null.
Im still assessing how he is going about pushing his agenda - which is alignment indicative.

To answer your question in short: If i had a gun to my head i would say: weak town (subject to change)


On April 05 2013 11:54 Mocsta wrote:
*<To Rayn>*
You are piss-farting around and shitting up the thread with your baseless accusations.

And now I notice that you are playing in two games both in Day 1.

I hope you start taking this game seriously; because a sole contribution as a "plan" is hardly alignment indicative.

My eye is officially on you now.

On April 05 2013 12:19 Mocsta wrote:
In short: there is too much uncertainty - in particular with Rayn who has gone off the rails since achieving what he desired.

In fact: since the draft was released, Rayn hasnt seem to give a fuck about coordinating any plan; he just wants RO gone.

Your play in short: Classic mafia.
You are trying to cast RO as scum, because he didnt push a plan.
The corollary is that you consider yourself super pro-town because you did push a plan.

Great.. but what have you done since the draft order was released?
Absolutely nothing but shit the thread.
You have not followed through with your plan, now that you received your prize.
And you did not berate any "weak reads" for being up there on the list and not endorsing your plan.

Your actions may be generic pro-town; but your motives are clearly not in towns favour.
You sir, are scum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2013 03:34 GMT
#609
I'm gonna tunnel him , i'm telling he is scum imo. ppl can take whatever stance they will.
and i am not DEFINITELY gonna tunnel anyone.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2013 03:34 GMT
#610
EBWOP: I'm not... :D
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 05 2013 03:35 GMT
#611
On April 05 2013 12:30 gonzaw wrote:
Rayn, even if RO is scum, you'd be making it easier for him to "hide" by....doing whatever the hell you are doing.
Fact: You have 5% justified reasons for thinking RO is scum. Nobody agrees with you
Fact: The more you tunnel him, the more you antagonize others, and the more everybody will start defending RO to react against you. Therefore if RO is scum, the more you do whatever you do, the more people will keep ignoring his scummyness and focus on defending him to counter your unjustified tunnel

So yes, hear my advice (just filter me if it's too much work to search it), and take a step back, you are not doing anybody any favours. Hell, even if you are scum you are not doing your scumteam any favours by being so "obvious".

Im thinking this nincompoop thinks he established enough town cred to push a weak case.

I have seen stupid townies do what rayn is doing (i.e push a tunneled case); but my problem extends that he dropped his plan altogether once he achieved a top 5 draft pick.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2013 03:36 GMT
#612
On April 05 2013 12:33 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 12:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 05 2013 12:21 Mocsta wrote:
On April 05 2013 12:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
M_Z:
He is non- committal, that makes me think he might be scum.

Nice regress.

What, you tell then who ABSOLUTELY are scum ??

You.

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 10:25 geript wrote:
Mocsta I'm not getting a good feeling about Rayn. Any thoughts about him? Also, you know Oats better than I do. How do you feel about him?
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 10:42 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn: I dont have a firm opinion. I think coming up with a plan, and sticking with it: is alignment null.
Im still assessing how he is going about pushing his agenda - which is alignment indicative.

To answer your question in short: If i had a gun to my head i would say: weak town (subject to change)


Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 11:54 Mocsta wrote:
*<To Rayn>*
You are piss-farting around and shitting up the thread with your baseless accusations.

And now I notice that you are playing in two games both in Day 1.

I hope you start taking this game seriously; because a sole contribution as a "plan" is hardly alignment indicative.

My eye is officially on you now.

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 12:19 Mocsta wrote:
In short: there is too much uncertainty - in particular with Rayn who has gone off the rails since achieving what he desired.

In fact: since the draft was released, Rayn hasnt seem to give a fuck about coordinating any plan; he just wants RO gone.

Your play in short: Classic mafia.
You are trying to cast RO as scum, because he didnt push a plan.
The corollary is that you consider yourself super pro-town because you did push a plan.

Great.. but what have you done since the draft order was released?
Absolutely nothing but shit the thread.
You have not followed through with your plan, now that you received your prize.
And you did not berate any "weak reads" for being up there on the list and not endorsing your plan.

Your actions may be generic pro-town; but your motives are clearly not in towns favour.
You sir, are scum.

<3 i can't say anything else t_T
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2013 03:38 GMT
#613
Mocsta tell me who has done anything productive after draft order?
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2013 03:39 GMT
#614
Well Mocsta, I don't follow your eagerness to hunt down our little friend here. His behaviour in the drafting phase seems too "fucking great scum play" if he was scum compared to this "fucking bad scum play" you mention him doing. It'd be so "fucking great scum play" that it almost convinced me he was town back then (and that thought still lingers)

His RO tunnel is weird though, so I'll let this play its course. Just don't shit things up (both of you) it's the only thing I ask of you
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2013 03:40 GMT
#615
On April 05 2013 12:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta tell me who has done anything productive after draft order?

gonzaw: are there any ppl?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 05 2013 03:40 GMT
#616
Gonzaw, what do you make of MZ basically trolling the thread and saying very little about anything?
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2013 03:49 GMT
#617
Should we have our roles by now?
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2013 03:51 GMT
#618
On April 05 2013 12:40 yamato77 wrote:
Gonzaw, what do you make of MZ basically trolling the thread and saying very little about anything?


I wouldn't call what he did trolling.
I agree with some stuff he's saying, for instance Artanis does seem to be flying under the radar.

Either he's making sense as town and being playful in his own way....or I'll need more time to figure him out as scum.
Both of those make me give little attention to him, in the mafia-seeking ways
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2013 03:53 GMT
#619
On April 05 2013 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Should we have our roles by now?


You'll have to wait 20 more hours for that sugarpuff
BC wouldn't be that cruel to give people just 2-3 hours to pick a role
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 05 2013 03:55 GMT
#620
On April 05 2013 12:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta tell me who has done anything productive after draft order?

There were only 2 major plan pushers pre-draft.

You and yamato.
Everyone else was contributiing to *your* plan

yamato is so far down the draft; you become the de facto person that pushed a plan - that could achieve something post-draft.

The first part of your plan was giving 5 ppl a top 5 ranking in the draft.
*YOU* were in the top 5 list.

On April 05 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Combine Vivax' + Geript's ideas and let these guys pick [1][1], [2][1], [3][1], [4][1], [5][1] (everyone else picks [6->] [X]):
raynpelikoneet - 3
Geript - 6
yamato - last
Mocsta - middle
Sharrant - middle

So even though Geript has been present post-draft, and was a key part of your original plan. You made ZERO effort to consolidate the plan with him.

Interesting is it not? Lemme guess; Geript thought you might be scum, so you cant work with him.
So if that is the case. Why aren't you trying to develop a rapore with: Sn0_Man, ObviousOne, VisceraEyes or Sinani.

Your actions simply do not make sense from a town point of view.
You got your cake - the top 5 pick - and now proceed to ditch *your* whole plan away.

Yes, gonzaw has a point; "why go to an effort to look pro-town & then proceed to chuck it away" and do a complete attitude 180.
I have no strong answer for that, as it all points to WIFOM.

Regardless, I have seen both town and scum do stupid things. So his WIFOM has not swayed me away from you.
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