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geript
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On April 05 2013 11:53 yamato77 wrote: Justify your suspicion on Artanis. He's hiding in plain sight. On April 05 2013 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats is bad town or scum. Artanis is .. hmm.. idk.. sharrant almost definitely town. deconduo, leaning on scum at him. RO = scum. kill him <3 ![[image loading]](http://www.grapevinetxonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Thomas-the-Train-Grapevine-Texas.jpg) See that rayn^ That's a train. Think of that train as your current case on RO ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Amtrak_crash.jpg) See that rayn^ That's a train crash. That's what happens when you tunnel without a real case. Out of curiosity, are there any posts of decondou's that stick out to you that made you think he was scummy? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
He is non- committal, that makes me think he might be scum. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Im not going to bother posting anymore till the game starts due to the below. On April 05 2013 11:13 Mocsta wrote: Anyways, looking at the top 5 to 10 ppl. There are many uncertainties in that list (as in barely any filter to even attempt to make a read) e.g. Sinani/VE/OO etc This kinda throws out any coordination attempts. My suggestion is to just choose what you think is beneficial. And if town in the top 5, perhaps have a crack at removing janitor etc from play. Best of luck, may scum be vanilla  In short: there is too much uncertainty - in particular with Rayn who has gone off the rails since achieving what he desired. In fact: since the draft was released, Rayn hasnt seem to give a fuck about coordinating any plan; he just wants RO gone. Think about that town. See you in 24hrs. | ||
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Mocsta
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On April 05 2013 12:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: M_Z: He is non- committal, that makes me think he might be scum. Nice regress. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
What, you tell then who ABSOLUTELY are scum ?? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Fact: You have 5% justified reasons for thinking RO is scum. Nobody agrees with you Fact: The more you tunnel him, the more you antagonize others, and the more everybody will start defending RO to react against you. Therefore if RO is scum, the more you do whatever you do, the more people will keep ignoring his scummyness and focus on defending him to counter your unjustified tunnel So yes, hear my advice (just filter me if it's too much work to search it), and take a step back, you are not doing anybody any favours. Hell, even if you are scum you are not doing your scumteam any favours by being so "obvious". | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On April 05 2013 12:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: What, you tell then who ABSOLUTELY are scum ?? You. On April 05 2013 10:25 geript wrote: Mocsta I'm not getting a good feeling about Rayn. Any thoughts about him? Also, you know Oats better than I do. How do you feel about him? On April 05 2013 10:42 Mocsta wrote: Rayn: I dont have a firm opinion. I think coming up with a plan, and sticking with it: is alignment null. Im still assessing how he is going about pushing his agenda - which is alignment indicative. To answer your question in short: If i had a gun to my head i would say: weak town (subject to change) On April 05 2013 11:54 Mocsta wrote: *<To Rayn>* You are piss-farting around and shitting up the thread with your baseless accusations. And now I notice that you are playing in two games both in Day 1. I hope you start taking this game seriously; because a sole contribution as a "plan" is hardly alignment indicative. My eye is officially on you now. On April 05 2013 12:19 Mocsta wrote: In short: there is too much uncertainty - in particular with Rayn who has gone off the rails since achieving what he desired. In fact: since the draft was released, Rayn hasnt seem to give a fuck about coordinating any plan; he just wants RO gone. Your play in short: Classic mafia. You are trying to cast RO as scum, because he didnt push a plan. The corollary is that you consider yourself super pro-town because you did push a plan. Great.. but what have you done since the draft order was released? Absolutely nothing but shit the thread. You have not followed through with your plan, now that you received your prize. And you did not berate any "weak reads" for being up there on the list and not endorsing your plan. Your actions may be generic pro-town; but your motives are clearly not in towns favour. You sir, are scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
and i am not DEFINITELY gonna tunnel anyone. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Mocsta
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On April 05 2013 12:30 gonzaw wrote: Rayn, even if RO is scum, you'd be making it easier for him to "hide" by....doing whatever the hell you are doing. Fact: You have 5% justified reasons for thinking RO is scum. Nobody agrees with you Fact: The more you tunnel him, the more you antagonize others, and the more everybody will start defending RO to react against you. Therefore if RO is scum, the more you do whatever you do, the more people will keep ignoring his scummyness and focus on defending him to counter your unjustified tunnel So yes, hear my advice (just filter me if it's too much work to search it), and take a step back, you are not doing anybody any favours. Hell, even if you are scum you are not doing your scumteam any favours by being so "obvious". Im thinking this nincompoop thinks he established enough town cred to push a weak case. I have seen stupid townies do what rayn is doing (i.e push a tunneled case); but my problem extends that he dropped his plan altogether once he achieved a top 5 draft pick. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On April 05 2013 12:33 Mocsta wrote: You. Your play in short: Classic mafia. You are trying to cast RO as scum, because he didnt push a plan. The corollary is that you consider yourself super pro-town because you did push a plan. Great.. but what have you done since the draft order was released? Absolutely nothing but shit the thread. You have not followed through with your plan, now that you received your prize. And you did not berate any "weak reads" for being up there on the list and not endorsing your plan. Your actions may be generic pro-town; but your motives are clearly not in towns favour. You sir, are scum. <3 i can't say anything else t_T | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
His RO tunnel is weird though, so I'll let this play its course. Just don't shit things up (both of you) it's the only thing I ask of you | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On April 05 2013 12:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mocsta tell me who has done anything productive after draft order? gonzaw: are there any ppl? | ||
yamato77
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raynpelikoneet
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On April 05 2013 12:40 yamato77 wrote: Gonzaw, what do you make of MZ basically trolling the thread and saying very little about anything? I wouldn't call what he did trolling. I agree with some stuff he's saying, for instance Artanis does seem to be flying under the radar. Either he's making sense as town and being playful in his own way....or I'll need more time to figure him out as scum. Both of those make me give little attention to him, in the mafia-seeking ways | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On April 05 2013 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Should we have our roles by now? You'll have to wait 20 more hours for that sugarpuff BC wouldn't be that cruel to give people just 2-3 hours to pick a role | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On April 05 2013 12:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mocsta tell me who has done anything productive after draft order? There were only 2 major plan pushers pre-draft. You and yamato. Everyone else was contributiing to *your* plan yamato is so far down the draft; you become the de facto person that pushed a plan - that could achieve something post-draft. The first part of your plan was giving 5 ppl a top 5 ranking in the draft. *YOU* were in the top 5 list. On April 05 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Combine Vivax' + Geript's ideas and let these guys pick [1][1], [2][1], [3][1], [4][1], [5][1] (everyone else picks [6->] [X]): raynpelikoneet - 3 Geript - 6 yamato - last Mocsta - middle Sharrant - middle So even though Geript has been present post-draft, and was a key part of your original plan. You made ZERO effort to consolidate the plan with him. Interesting is it not? Lemme guess; Geript thought you might be scum, so you cant work with him. So if that is the case. Why aren't you trying to develop a rapore with: Sn0_Man, ObviousOne, VisceraEyes or Sinani. Your actions simply do not make sense from a town point of view. You got your cake - the top 5 pick - and now proceed to ditch *your* whole plan away. Yes, gonzaw has a point; "why go to an effort to look pro-town & then proceed to chuck it away" and do a complete attitude 180. I have no strong answer for that, as it all points to WIFOM. Regardless, I have seen both town and scum do stupid things. So his WIFOM has not swayed me away from you. | ||
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