On April 15 2013 13:33 Vivax wrote:
It shows that you had a special perspective to watch things happen, it doesn't look like something a townie would notice easily, so late since D1.

Are you just doing this because you think I'm going to call you town for going all tunnel-mode on me?

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 15 2013 04:35 GMT

#3701

On April 15 2013 13:34 Mocsta wrote:
The lowest fruit for me are

Vivax // Oats // Shevlocke

We can do checks of whatever, but we are going to have to stop being lazy and revert back to traditoinal filter diving.

The most removed player in that list is Shevlocke. He needs to go.

Okay, so let's look at Shelvocke, because when I went back to look at votes D1, scum were not on him.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 15 2013 04:38 GMT

#3705

On April 15 2013 13:37 Vivax wrote:
Why did you say all mafia went to Shelvocke/VE if that wasn't the case though?

I distinctly remember that being the case, for some reason.

I was wrong.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 15 2013 04:42 GMT

#3707

On April 08 2013 16:05 Shelvocke wrote:

Show nested quote +

Read my filter: + Show Spoiler +

On April 07 2013 15:33 Shelvocke wrote:

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I don't really think rayn is mafia. His play does look different from those town quotes you had, but it doesn't look like that mafia game either. The only part of that game where he just suddenly jumps is the part where he votes for Krefla and even then he has a reason because Krefla just came in right before the deadline. The fact that he seems a lot more impulsive in this game than he has been before is something that points to him being town. I feel he would be a lot more careful and safe as mafia. The plan switch looks kind of strange, but his overall attitude makes him more likely town.

On April 07 2013 15:52 Shelvocke wrote:

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I get what you're saying, but I've never seen a new mafia player be so crazy. I don't really understand the reasons for some of the stuff he does but it seems to me that he sees one post and then just makes up his mind based on that. Usually new mafia are much more safe and concerned about their appearance. It's possible he's some kind of mafia gosu but frankly that's not the impression I get from him.

Something about this situation really strikes me the wrong way. There was still plenty of time left in the day and an Artanis lynch was nowhere certain. Like shooting gonzaw pretty much guarantees an Artanis lynch and I can't think of a good reason for mafia to do that if Artanis is mafia. I'm rereading the thread right now. Not entirely sure who to kill right now, but it's not Artanis.

##Unvote

Literally the most incriminating thing of all time.

You know when I said that his post looked bad, Vivax? It was this post.

I had the EXACT OPPOSITE reaction, but here he comes with this.

On April 08 2013 07:38 Shelvocke wrote:
I like gonzaw's case. Artanis's stuff on geript does looks unnecessarily agressive and fake. I'm voting for him.

##Vote Artanis[Xp]

That's his original vote post (and only justification) for Artanis in the midst of town sheeping Gonzaw. Looks like a bus, smells like a bus, definitely is a bus.

yamato77

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April 15 2013 04:44 GMT

#3708

I posted those in opposite order, but do note that those are his only two posts about Artanis in the entirety of day 1.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 15 2013 04:49 GMT

#3713

Sounds good.

yamato77

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April 15 2013 04:51 GMT

#3716

I think we should just kill Shelvocke regardless of checks

yamato77

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April 15 2013 04:55 GMT

#3718

Scum bussed hard this game, especially day 1.

Are you really that surprised?

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 15 2013 05:55 GMT

#3728

If Keir is scum, he deserves to win, IMO.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 15 2013 06:02 GMT

#3731

Show some examples of this bad early game and we'll talk about it further.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 15 2013 06:09 GMT

#3737

I'm too tired to click through filters.

/lazy

yamato77

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April 15 2013 07:26 GMT

#3779

Maybe now you can understand how I felt when I came back to the thread to see a dead SnB...

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 16 2013 03:04 GMT

#3787

So Shelvocke and Vivax?

Any checks worth noting?

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 16 2013 03:05 GMT

#3790

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...Oats

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 16 2013 04:39 GMT

#3822

I'm fairly sure I like the Vivax/Oats double lynch.

Shelvocke is the only other person I'm even considering today, so there's that.

If people have problems with that, I don't really care. This game has dragged on for a while.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 16 2013 05:20 GMT

#3826

I don't think RO is mafia if Keir saw nothing from the masoning to suggest it.

I would like to see the mason logs just to know what Oats has been doing, because his contributions to the thread are terrible. He's also one I know to not give up for a while as mafia, as evidenced by LIX.

Vivax is still the best lynch, with Oats not far behind.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 16 2013 12:18 GMT

#3855

I'm not even going to fight you people lynching me because it makes no sense. You're inventing narratives to fit this idea of me being mafia rather than taking the time to honestly evaluate my play in context.

There are three people you need to be weary of; Oats, Vivax, and Shelvocke. I hope you have enough lynches left.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 16 2013 12:55 GMT

#3857

I guess I'll talk about that later when I have time.

yamato77

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April 16 2013 14:26 GMT

#3860

See what I mean by inventing a narrative?

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 16 2013 14:38 GMT

#3864

Mocsta, the problem is that both of you are ignoring the fact that until he died, Artanis did start to look better, even by your own admission.

The difference is in how I unvoted Artanis after engaging him, and shelvocke invites him based on WIFOM without a second thought.

Think about this more. It's seriously not that difficult to understand how I could have simply been wrong, because it is there in my filter. It is not in Shelvocke's however. I wasn't cherry picking like you guys when I showed his read on Artanis and the ridiculous way he went off the wagon.